Tyson Fury vs The Top 10

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Aaronide_ger wrote:how underrated is Fury even after EASILY defeating the BEST heavyweight in the world.. People who say Pulev and jennings wins a decision are really high on drugs.

Tyson should be favored against ANYONE at this moment of time, give this guy credit FFS!
Yes Sir. People need to accept that Fury is the best heavyweight in the world today. Anyone who fights him next should be substantial under dogs
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Ian1973 wrote:Fury is learning and improving all the time. He is now doing what wlad mayweather,rigo and golovkin against lemieux have done namely controlling distance and perfecting the art of not getting hit. It is extremely difficult to beat guys like that. You can't learn that skill knocking people out in a roundround or two all the time. Fury learned from experiencing tough times in the ring . Joshua hasn't done that and it may cost him at the top level
Joshua should be going a bit easy on his opponents to get a few extra rounds in.

I'm not sure he's being guided along as well as he could be.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs The Top 10

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The Revival wrote:According to TBRB

1 Wladimir Klitschko
2 Alexander Povetkin 30-1-0 (22) RUS 1
3 Deontay Wilder 35-0-0 (34) USA 3
4 Kubrat Pulev 20-1-0 (11) BUL 4
5 Bermane Stiverne 24-2-1 (21) CAN 5
6 Carlos Takam 31-2-1 (24) CMR 6
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov 21-0-1 (13) UKR 7
8 Bryant Jennings 19-1-0 (10) USA 8
9 Steve Cunningham 28-7-1 (13) USA 9
10 Anthony Joshua



Note: I edited Wladimir Klitschko as the new #1 Contender now that he's no longer Champion TBRB still hasn't updated there rankings yet, but this is the Top 10. How does Fury do against these guys?
He stopped Cunningham in their first fight and Steve's only gotten older and more shopworn since. Takam, Jennings, Stiverne, and Povetkin are guys I think he could stink out and easily score decisions over. Pulev probably makes it a little exciting, but I see him winning that. He beats Klitschko in a rematch. I like his chances against Wilder due to Wilder's porous defense. By far to me Pulev and Joshua are the most exciting on that list for a Tyson Fury fight. No doubt.
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[quote="The Revival"]According to TBRB

1 Wladimir Klitschko
2 Alexander Povetkin 30-1-0 (22) RUS 1
3 Deontay Wilder 35-0-0 (34) USA 3
4 Kubrat Pulev 20-1-0 (11) BUL 4
5 Bermane Stiverne 24-2-1 (21) CAN 5
6 Carlos Takam 31-2-1 (24) CMR 6
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov 21-0-1 (13) UKR 7
8 Bryant Jennings 19-1-0 (10) USA 8
9 Steve Cunningham 28-7-1 (13) USA 9
10 Anthony Joshua


Wilder would have a chance. So would Joshua, perhaps not yet.

Fury would beat the others easy, and he would beat Pulev (who still looks like an amateur very easy.
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The Revival wrote:I see it like this.

1. Wladimir - He can win the rematch if he fights. If he doesn't like he did today. It'll be a repeat.
2. Povetkin - Knocks out Fury
3. Wilder - Knocks out Fury
4. Pulev - Loses a Decision to Fury
5. Stiverne - Loses a Decision to Fury
6. Carlos Takam - Loses a Decision to Fury
7. Glazkov - Probably gets stopped by Fury, but definitely loses
8. Bryant Jennings - Wins a Decision over Fury
9. Steve Cunningham - Has already been knocked out by Fury, shouldn't be Top 10 anyhow
10. Anthony Joshua - Knocks out Fury
Just out of interest, what have you seen from Jennings to make you think he can outpoint Fury?
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danamba7 wrote:
The Revival wrote:I see it like this.

1. Wladimir - He can win the rematch if he fights. If he doesn't like he did today. It'll be a repeat.
2. Povetkin - Knocks out Fury
3. Wilder - Knocks out Fury
4. Pulev - Loses a Decision to Fury
5. Stiverne - Loses a Decision to Fury
6. Carlos Takam - Loses a Decision to Fury
7. Glazkov - Probably gets stopped by Fury, but definitely loses
8. Bryant Jennings - Wins a Decision over Fury
9. Steve Cunningham - Has already been knocked out by Fury, shouldn't be Top 10 anyhow
10. Anthony Joshua - Knocks out Fury
Just out of interest, what have you seen from Jennings to make you think he can outpoint Fury?
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Re: Tyson Fury vs The Top 10

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danamba7 wrote:
The Revival wrote:I see it like this.

1. Wladimir - He can win the rematch if he fights. If he doesn't like he did today. It'll be a repeat.
2. Povetkin - Knocks out Fury
3. Wilder - Knocks out Fury
4. Pulev - Loses a Decision to Fury
5. Stiverne - Loses a Decision to Fury
6. Carlos Takam - Loses a Decision to Fury
7. Glazkov - Probably gets stopped by Fury, but definitely loses
8. Bryant Jennings - Wins a Decision over Fury
9. Steve Cunningham - Has already been knocked out by Fury, shouldn't be Top 10 anyhow
10. Anthony Joshua - Knocks out Fury
Just out of interest, what have you seen from Jennings to make you think he can outpoint Fury?
He's fairly aggressive at times, and would at least try to win. I ain't saying he'd definitely beat Fury, but I'd pick him to win that fight. Though he may lose to Luis Ortiz here in a few weeks. That's a dangerous opponent.
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The Revival wrote:According to TBRB

1 Wladimir Klitschko
2 Alexander Povetkin 30-1-0 (22) RUS 1
3 Deontay Wilder 35-0-0 (34) USA 3
4 Kubrat Pulev 20-1-0 (11) BUL 4
5 Bermane Stiverne 24-2-1 (21) CAN 5
6 Carlos Takam 31-2-1 (24) CMR 6
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov 21-0-1 (13) UKR 7
8 Bryant Jennings 19-1-0 (10) USA 8
9 Steve Cunningham 28-7-1 (13) USA 9
10 Anthony Joshua?
I wouldn't be amazed if he beat any of these guys if he picked a game plan that worked and stuck to it.
I wouldn't be astounded if he got too big for his boots and got cocky, as he has in fights he should stroll in the past, and made a fundamental error that cost him dear.

I still think Wlad goes into the rematch as favourite but look what happened last time.
Povetkin is the best fighter in that list, but as with Klitschko, Fury could use his size to nullify him.
Wilder has a good punchers chance but Fury should win that.
I still think Pulev is quality despite the Wlad loss. If he comes back with a good win and shows the Wlad loss hasn't damaged him I think he'd be a real threat to Fury.
For 5-9 I think Fury would have to have a stinker to lose any of them.
AJ? It's interesting. We don't know how good he really is. I think the sooner it happens the better Fury's chances
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1 Wladimir Klitschko 64-4 (53) W UD
2 Alexander Povetkin 30-1-0 L KO
3 Deontay Wilder 35-0-0 (34) W KO
4 Kubrat Pulev 20-1-0 (11) W UD
5 Bermane Stiverne 24-2-1 (21) W UD
6 Carlos Takam 31-2-1 (24) W KO
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov 21-0-1 (13) W UD
8 Bryant Jennings 19-1-0 (10) W UD
9 Steve Cunningham 28-7-1 (13) W KO
10 Anthony Joshua 14-0 (14) L KO

Some of them (particularly AJ) pure guesswork but if he were fighting the above next, that's what I'd put my money on
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King Tyson would ko them all

greatest heavyweight of all time
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verballistic wrote:
MP wrote:I'm not sure that he can beat Wilder. I think Wilder was watching that fight thinking "damn, I should not have been waiting so long to challenge for the championship, that could have been me, and I would be the champion now!"

Fury is a hard guy to figure out though. I've thought that he'd lose sometime over his last fights but he keeps winning. Excluding Joshua, I could see him beating any of the guys, but also he could lose to Povetkin, Wilder, Pulev, and Jennings. Not sure about Takam and Glazkov.
Wilder would fight Fury the same way he fought Stiverne...at long distance with his jab and his bicycle to win a 12-round boring decision (though not as boring as that PATHETIC fight tonight)!! :oops:
What makes you think that Wilder could jab his way to a win over Fury when Wlad struggled so badly. I think Fury beats all of these except Joshua who would beat them all.
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Batley18 wrote:
verballistic wrote:
MP wrote:I'm not sure that he can beat Wilder. I think Wilder was watching that fight thinking "damn, I should not have been waiting so long to challenge for the championship, that could have been me, and I would be the champion now!"

Fury is a hard guy to figure out though. I've thought that he'd lose sometime over his last fights but he keeps winning. Excluding Joshua, I could see him beating any of the guys, but also he could lose to Povetkin, Wilder, Pulev, and Jennings. Not sure about Takam and Glazkov.
Wilder would fight Fury the same way he fought Stiverne...at long distance with his jab and his bicycle to win a 12-round boring decision (though not as boring as that PATHETIC fight tonight)!! :oops:
What makes you think that Wilder could jab his way to a win over Fury when Wlad struggled so badly. I think Fury beats all of these except Joshua who would beat them all.

What makes you think that Joshua would beat them all, when he's fought nobody?
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Because he is absolutely complete, technically, mentally and physically. He has destroyed fighters in far less time than those ranked above him. There has been no hint of a weakness.
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Batley18 wrote:Because he is absolutely complete, technically, mentally and physically. He has destroyed fighters in far less time than those ranked above him. There has been no hint of a weakness.

Because they where all bums, wait until he gets hit then we will have more of an idea of what he is about.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs The Top 10

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The Revival wrote:
danamba7 wrote:
The Revival wrote:I see it like this.

1. Wladimir - He can win the rematch if he fights. If he doesn't like he did today. It'll be a repeat.
2. Povetkin - Knocks out Fury
3. Wilder - Knocks out Fury
4. Pulev - Loses a Decision to Fury
5. Stiverne - Loses a Decision to Fury
6. Carlos Takam - Loses a Decision to Fury
7. Glazkov - Probably gets stopped by Fury, but definitely loses
8. Bryant Jennings - Wins a Decision over Fury
9. Steve Cunningham - Has already been knocked out by Fury, shouldn't be Top 10 anyhow
10. Anthony Joshua - Knocks out Fury
Just out of interest, what have you seen from Jennings to make you think he can outpoint Fury?
He's fairly aggressive at times, and would at least try to win. I ain't saying he'd definitely beat Fury, but I'd pick him to win that fight. Though he may lose to Luis Ortiz here in a few weeks. That's a dangerous opponent.
Okay, so... Luis Ortiz > Bryant Jennings > Tyson Fury?
It's as though you have your rankings completely inverted. I assume you have a few thousand heavyweights as being better than Luis Ortiz.
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Rexob wrote:
Batley18 wrote:Because he is absolutely complete, technically, mentally and physically. He has destroyed fighters in far less time than those ranked above him. There has been no hint of a weakness.

Because they where all bums, wait until he gets hit then we will have more of an idea of what he is about.
Anthony Joshua fought more Boxrec top 100 opponends already as Deontay Wilder has done in his entire life and KOed all of them together in a shorter time as Deontay beated his last one alone.
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I think that Fury can compete with any of the top ten. He would have beaten the majority of them on Saturday night, no matter how fugly he managed it.

Fury is The King of the heavy weight division, no matter how much some hate it, or what anyone thinks would happen against whoever he fights.

He is one big assed mother fvcking king of the hill, no matter what angle you are looking up from.
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Tanzio wrote:I think that Fury can compete with any of the top ten. He would have beaten the majority of them on Saturday night, no matter how fugly he managed it.

Fury is The King of the heavy weight division, no matter how much some hate it, or what anyone thinks would happen against whoever he fights.

He is one big assed mother fvcking king of the hill, no matter what angle you are looking up from.
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Fury vs Wilder would be fascinating...if you enjoy seeing 2 huge men trying to employ the exact same game plan of circling the ring and trying to win by throwing only jabs from their bicycle.
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Povetkin would be the best fight to watch because we know he will bring the fight to Fury's kitchen, knocking pots and pans all over the place in the process.
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He is well able to beat all of them!!!! He is really a champion fighter.
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This may seem as a stretch to many, but Povetkin is the best HW in the world right now. If he doesn't age significantly in the nearest future, he can KO all the big guys (Wilder, Fury, Klitschko, Joshua). Fury the big bear probably has the best chin among the bunch and therefore the best chances. Povetkin could be losing rounds by eating each jab coming his way, but he's really strong, iron-chinned, motivated and persistent to overcome the adversity. He developed a good KO power and stamina, possibly by cheating under RUSADA oversight, but nonetheless those are the facts. It took Klitschko a lot of jabbing, grabbing (not that much holding, Wlad is no mayweather in the department), leaning over and extreme caution in defense to pull that one off (in a way reminding me of Ali's rope-a-dope trick vs Foreman), but neither he (older version) nor anyone else out there right now could do the trick.

PS. Fury is a stylistically bad match-up for both Wlad and Wilder, but Joshua may beat him by overpowering and TKOing. Same could go for a Wlad rematch, but I'm not sure he chooses to (as an old man after a successful decade of caution-first operation) to go to a war and risk being countered by a fighter with a good speed, power and advantage in reach. Though it would be his best chance to win as evidenced by their whole fight and the 12th round in particular.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs The Top 10

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Lackeos wrote:
The Revival wrote:
danamba7 wrote:
He's fairly aggressive at times, and would at least try to win. I ain't saying he'd definitely beat Fury, but I'd pick him to win that fight. Though he may lose to Luis Ortiz here in a few weeks. That's a dangerous opponent.
Okay, so... Luis Ortiz > Bryant Jennings > Tyson Fury?
It's as though you have your rankings completely inverted. I assume you have a few thousand heavyweights as being better than Luis Ortiz.
I don't have Ortiz over Jennings in my rankings, I just think he stands a very realistic chance of beating him. Tyson Fury is the Champion, and nobody is ahead of him in the rankings, but that doesn't mean he can't be beaten. Just like Canelo is the recognized Middleweight Champion now, but almost nobody thinks he's going to beat Golovkin.
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I'd love to see Fury fight Wilder.
Maybe it will happen if Wlad decides against the rematch.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs The Top 10

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With his size, reach and movement advantage Fury "could" beat anybody in the top ten.
If he stays below 250, trains seriously, doesn't party like an animal between fights.
Maybe his wife can help with that.
He will probably get KO'd at some point and have to mount a comeback.
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