john fury

[Counter-puncher]

Uh henry he didn't use the gloves or fight in his ring, I guess you missed those parts

[HomicideHenry]

Uh henry he didn't use the gloves or fight in his ring, I guess you missed those parts

It doesnt matter. All the mind games didnt work. Wrapping his hands and putting gloves on before a member of Team Fury could be there. Just goes to show how classless Klitschko really is, and how much fear in his heart he had that night.

[Wales]

It was only one eye ffs.

Like I say, a 11 year sentence says otherwise.

I was pissed at a show, think the lad said the press had over exaggerated the "gouging" - it was a flurry of punches, and also that the guy wasn't blind.

Either way it's horrific.

[HomicideHenry]

Uh henry he didn't use the gloves or fight in his ring, I guess you missed those parts

Oh and btw Lennox Lewis posted this on his Facebook page:

This is the ring that was used during the fight last weekend. One thing that I noticed was that it had a whole lot of extra padding for some reason. Stepping into the ring felt like being on a mattress during a pillow fight.
I've seen tactics to give fighters different advantages. In my fight with Mike Tyson, they built a small ring and told me it was the only one in the area they could get. I promptly bought a ring that was the size set forth, and agreed to in the contract, and shipped it to Memphis in time for fight.

Using a small ring, would have given an added advantage to Tyson and since Don King was his promoter, these are the things people try in order to get an advantage.

Klitschko was doing the same thing here with the padding in order to slow Fury down so it would be easier for Klitschko to catch up to him and also to take away his legs. Fury's team discovered it and had some of the extra padding removed.

In hindsight, the fact that Klitschko would resort to such tactics with the ring, not to mention Fury's gloves and watching Klitschko's hand wraps, is a signal that Tyson was in his head BEFORE the fight to me.
There is an old saying that most battles are won, or lost, before they even take place. That seems to be the case here too.

Some of the padding, not all of it was removed.

After all, havent you seen the skin all but fall off Tyson's toes from having to work against the padding in the ring?

[Wales]

Some of the padding, not all of it was removed.

In the video I saw all of the excessive padding was removed leaving the accepted standard canvas and foam base in the ring. However, the "excessive"' foam that was removed was about 3 or 4 inches thick, and ridiculously spongey (as appose to compact foam base). What was under the canvas was a real pisstake. Would have been like turning up for a road race only to be told you're running on soft sand.

[Wales]

In this video it shows how thick he padding was - the two foam layers taped together are not required / the excess that they had to remove to leave just the bottom red layer behind!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/34954253

[HomicideHenry]

In this video it shows how thick he padding was - the two foam layers taped together are not required / the excess that they had to remove to leave just the bottom red layer behind!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/34954253

It still had to be thicker than normal, else Lewis wouldnt have commented on it, or Tyson wouldn't have lost skin off his feet and toes working against the canvas and padding.

[Wales]

In this video it shows how thick he padding was - the two foam layers taped together are not required / the excess that they had to remove to leave just the bottom red layer behind!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/34954253

It still had to be thicker than normal, else Lewis wouldnt have commented on it, or Tyson wouldn't have lost skin off his feet and toes working against the canvas and padding.

What was left looked normal / standard to me. However I don't profess to be an expert by any stretch. What was there to start with was an absolute joke.

Looking at Lewis' quote above I think he's talking about the ring before they removed it

[Wales]

Either way it shows what they're like. Don't disbelieve what Fury said about drinking water offered to him in the changing room after the fight either.

How many fighters have faced Klitchko without questioning these little things? Wlads team only changed them because team Fury were genuinley prepared to walk away if they didn't.

[HomicideHenry]

Either way it shows what they're like. Don't disbelieve what Fury said about drinking water offered to him in the changing room after the fight either.

How many fighters have faced Klitchko without questioning these little things? Wlads team only changed them because team Fury were genuinley prepared to walk away if they didn't.

Yeah, John Fury was the wrong man to cross when he told that promoter the wraps come off or they were walking away. "Are you threatening me?", damn right John Fury was. And they all would have walked out of that arena right then and there too.

[TheGman]

Uh henry he didn't use the gloves or fight in his ring, I guess you missed those parts

Oh and btw Lennox Lewis posted this on his Facebook page:

This is the ring that was used during the fight last weekend. One thing that I noticed was that it had a whole lot of extra padding for some reason. Stepping into the ring felt like being on a mattress during a pillow fight.
I've seen tactics to give fighters different advantages. In my fight with Mike Tyson, they built a small ring and told me it was the only one in the area they could get. I promptly bought a ring that was the size set forth, and agreed to in the contract, and shipped it to Memphis in time for fight.

Using a small ring, would have given an added advantage to Tyson and since Don King was his promoter, these are the things people try in order to get an advantage.

Klitschko was doing the same thing here with the padding in order to slow Fury down so it would be easier for Klitschko to catch up to him and also to take away his legs. Fury's team discovered it and had some of the extra padding removed.

In hindsight, the fact that Klitschko would resort to such tactics with the ring, not to mention Fury's gloves and watching Klitschko's hand wraps, is a signal that Tyson was in his head BEFORE the fight to me.
There is an old saying that most battles are won, or lost, before they even take place. That seems to be the case here too.

Some of the padding, not all of it was removed.

After all, havent you seen the skin all but fall off Tyson's toes from having to work against the padding in the ring?

Are you sure this is lennox lewis? Cause i dont think don king was tysons promoter at the time of their fight

[lillywhite14]

I think there's a measure of truth to it all.... The amount of hate, criticism, and all around ignorance thrown around after Fury has won makes one wonder aloud just how racist is Great Britain. When one looks at the statistics, it seems that its the last form of acceptable racism in the Isles and mainland Europe (travellers, romanies). Before the fight everyone was saying how impossible it was to defeat Klitschko because he was this all-time great. Now that its been done, everyone seems to be on the Joshua bandwagon or Haye bandwagon. Its all been diminished, and I think alot of it is because of this view that Tyson isnt a "true" Englishman, even though his family have been in the Isles for nearly a thousand years---- much longer than the likes of Haye, Lewis, Joshua, Whyte, and most the population.

Klitschko has been diminished as this hyped up champion. The era has been called the worst in all of history. And the insults keep piling up more and more. Its ironic the 180 everyone has made in the course of a few days. No respect given to Fury at all on this fight. He's like this champion that nobody wants---- because he isnt "native" in the eyes of most Englishmen. Which is beyond bizarre considering how much the Brits have embraced the likes of Hamed and Kahn who are only first, second or third generation Britains.

As for John Fury, he has the right to boast. He has the right to talk the hypocrisies of the world. All but 1 in the British press picked Fury to win and that was Ricky Hatton. More than 90% of fans and sportswriters around the globe picked Klitschko to win, and easily. Fury went into the man's backyard, used the champion's choice of gloves, fought in the champion's choice of ring and design... and embarassed one of the most dominate champions in boxing history, let alone heavyweight history. And its been marginalized into this little accomplished thing. Its absoloutely sickening.

Everyone for yearssssss has complained how boring the division is, and if only there was someone with charisma and charm and all around heat to build up the interest. And here the man is.... and an entire nation.... dismisses him, and would rather focus on a loud mouthed, blown up, former cruiserweight and a so far unproven heavyweight who has fought hand picked dead men. Its an embarassment, in my eyes. If I was English, I would be ashamed to call myself an Englishman right now, because of the outright dismissal of Tyson Fury and what he accomplished.

I hope for Tyson's sake, he rematches Klitschko and sparks the man out the next go around to put a question mark on the ordeal and then poleaxes Wilder and retires on top---- cus John Fury said it best anyways, "No one is going to give my son the credit anyways, because we're nothing but gyppos in everyone's eyes." They already have their minds set, that the world is never going to be behind them. And so far in the press, and on media sites the world over, it seems that they are right.

Besides, who cares. Let the old man have his day in the sun, alongside his son. They proved everyone wrong, and they did something that no one else from their culture has ever done. Let the old man brag and boast and say whatever he wants. I will say, though, I feel sorry for Peter Fury and Hughie when it is their turn to win the titles---- cus if Tyson is dismissed, I can only imagine it being more of the same for them. Absoloutely disgraceful.

Settle down fella! The middle classes and above, that run the press and media in Britain, tend to hate working class people, especially white working class people, and it is they who see Fury and his family as lowest of the low. That's where the criticism comes from in the main, certainly explains the lack of positive media coverage ( look at the sports personality of the year thread on the other forum )

The people I've spoken to have mostly said fair play to Tyson and are pleased for him. Some are proud to have an Englisman as world champ.

Tysons dad is a hindrance to the camp though imo. Full of bollocks, if quite likeable at times and can't really control himself when excited. He seems to get a little too involved in his sons training camps from what I've seen.

[Stevieb8006]

I think there's a measure of truth to it all.... The amount of hate, criticism, and all around ignorance thrown around after Fury has won makes one wonder aloud just how racist is Great Britain. When one looks at the statistics, it seems that its the last form of acceptable racism in the Isles and mainland Europe (travellers, romanies). Before the fight everyone was saying how impossible it was to defeat Klitschko because he was this all-time great. Now that its been done, everyone seems to be on the Joshua bandwagon or Haye bandwagon. Its all been diminished, and I think alot of it is because of this view that Tyson isnt a "true" Englishman, even though his family have been in the Isles for nearly a thousand years---- much longer than the likes of Haye, Lewis, Joshua, Whyte, and most the population.

Klitschko has been diminished as this hyped up champion. The era has been called the worst in all of history. And the insults keep piling up more and more. Its ironic the 180 everyone has made in the course of a few days. No respect given to Fury at all on this fight. He's like this champion that nobody wants---- because he isnt "native" in the eyes of most Englishmen. Which is beyond bizarre considering how much the Brits have embraced the likes of Hamed and Kahn who are only first, second or third generation Britains.

As for John Fury, he has the right to boast. He has the right to talk the hypocrisies of the world. All but 1 in the British press picked Fury to win and that was Ricky Hatton. More than 90% of fans and sportswriters around the globe picked Klitschko to win, and easily. Fury went into the man's backyard, used the champion's choice of gloves, fought in the champion's choice of ring and design... and embarassed one of the most dominate champions in boxing history, let alone heavyweight history. And its been marginalized into this little accomplished thing. Its absoloutely sickening.

Everyone for yearssssss has complained how boring the division is, and if only there was someone with charisma and charm and all around heat to build up the interest. And here the man is.... and an entire nation.... dismisses him, and would rather focus on a loud mouthed, blown up, former cruiserweight and a so far unproven heavyweight who has fought hand picked dead men. Its an embarassment, in my eyes. If I was English, I would be ashamed to call myself an Englishman right now, because of the outright dismissal of Tyson Fury and what he accomplished.

I hope for Tyson's sake, he rematches Klitschko and sparks the man out the next go around to put a question mark on the ordeal and then poleaxes Wilder and retires on top---- cus John Fury said it best anyways, "No one is going to give my son the credit anyways, because we're nothing but gyppos in everyone's eyes." They already have their minds set, that the world is never going to be behind them. And so far in the press, and on media sites the world over, it seems that they are right.

Besides, who cares. Let the old man have his day in the sun, alongside his son. They proved everyone wrong, and they did something that no one else from their culture has ever done. Let the old man brag and boast and say whatever he wants. I will say, though, I feel sorry for Peter Fury and Hughie when it is their turn to win the titles---- cus if Tyson is dismissed, I can only imagine it being more of the same for them. Absoloutely disgraceful.

good post. Woodhall picked fury as well.

[Dirk Kelly]

Curtis Woodhouse in his column in the local rag did too.

[Pugilist-specialist]

Klitschko has been diminished as this hyped up champion. The era has been called the worst in all of history. And the insults keep piling up more and more. Its ironic the 180 everyone has made in the course of a few days. No respect given to Fury at all on this fight. He's like this champion that nobody wants---- because he isnt "native" in the eyes of most Englishmen.

You can't say "everyone" - I'm delighted he won. Are you claiming that all English people are racist?

[Jon Saxon]

"Lennox Lewis was afraid of me"


Go pay your tax.

[Alba]

John Fury is trying to cash in his sons fame. I wish he would dissapear into the background and let fury and his uncle get on with it

[tobyh5]

Just been watching an interview with Peter on IFL and if only the old man had some of his class or at least some of his savvy to present class in front of cameras

[sweetscience]

Klitschko has been diminished as this hyped up champion. The era has been called the worst in all of history. And the insults keep piling up more and more. Its ironic the 180 everyone has made in the course of a few days. No respect given to Fury at all on this fight. He's like this champion that nobody wants---- because he isnt "native" in the eyes of most Englishmen.

You can't say "everyone" - I'm delighted he won. Are you claiming that all English people are racist?

exactly... I thought he would lose, but wanted him to win

Klit was the heavy fav.... picking the heavy fav is not racism

give your head a wobble Henry..... cant stand when people play the race card

[palooka]

It was only one eye ffs.

Like I say, a 11 year sentence says otherwise.

I was pissed at a show, think the lad said the press had over exaggerated the "gouging" - it was a flurry of punches, and also that the guy wasn't blind.

Either way it's horrific.

Roy's pulling your leg there, Wales

[Nightmare Roy]

[Boxerbeetle]

Oh and btw Lennox Lewis posted this on his Facebook page:

This is the ring that was used during the fight last weekend. One thing that I noticed was that it had a whole lot of extra padding for some reason. Stepping into the ring felt like being on a mattress during a pillow fight.

FFS, now I just can't shake the mental image of Lennox Lewis engaging in a pillow fight.

[dalcumly]

Any world champion who answers telephone calls and has a chat with whoever calls, and invites anyone to go jogging along the front at Morecambe with him, is my kind of man. How many millionaire footballers are cocooned in their own little universe ? Would we all be invited to run with , or phone Kell Brook, Amir Khan, etc - I don't think so.

Fury and his friends won't get any criticism from me, caravan to champion, enjoy spending your money big man !!

[Grilling Machine]

He's like this champion that nobody wants---- because he isnt "native" in the eyes of most Englishmen.

Like James, I'm no fan of nationalism - people are people, and I've been good friends with a Romani family since I was 5. But I'd rather watch Joshua box, hence I'd rather he was the champion. That's all there is to it for me.

FFS, now I just can't shake the mental image of Lennox Lewis engaging in a pillow fight.

It's no tickling contest on them mattresses!

[palooka]

He probably meant Huey Lewis.

Now that would be news .... .[/

Brilliant