Fury vs Glazkov Purse Bid

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PokerRob wrote:Am I missing something here??? How can it be a good BUSINESS move for the IBF to strip Fury of the title when he's awaiting a HUGH rematch with Klitschko early nexy year???

Surely there is more money to be made in the sanctioning fee's from Fury vs Klitschko, than what, Glazkov vs Charles Martin???

Genuine question, can someone explain this?

I can see how it benefits Duva or even Al Haymon (although he doesnt appear to care much about the belts either), but can in no way see how this can benefit the IBF... short term or long term!
Yeah its absolutely stupid in a business sense, 6% from a £20 million (at a complete guess) fight or 6% from a $1 million fight is a huge difference. Maybe Duva has sent them an early Christmas present or been sleeping away from home...
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The IBF has a maximum fee of $200,000
3% for a champion with a single belt
2% for a unified champion

Just to clarify the $ differnce
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SteveO wrote:According to their rules, Fury does not have to fight the IBF mandatory challenger until November 2016. Newly crowned IBF champions have a year before they must defend their title.
I have posted a link - scroll down to Rule 5:

http://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/ibfu ... 7_2014.pdf
Not true. It also says in those rules that if a champion is dethroned in an "optional defence" - which Klitschko-Fury was in the IBF's definition - then the successful new champion inherits the former ruler's mandatory obligations. So if Klitschko last made an IBF mandatory defence a year ago, Fury has to make one soon.
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Furthermore Klitschko's last IBF mandatory was Pulev in Nov 14. Presumably the IBF allowed him grace to meet Fury as that was a WBO mandatory and the WBO were ahead in the rotation (Fury had also been made WBA No. 1 so no issue there). Now the IBF mandatory defence is outstanding and, in fairness, Fury's team probably knew that when agreeing to the rematch clause. If Klitschko had won, he'd simply have fought Glazkov next. If Glazkov had challenged Wilder in January, this problem may have gone away for a bit. And don't forget, Fury only had to agree the rematch clause because they did not allow the fight to go to purse bids. So this was avoidable.
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wesshaw1985 wrote:How is Klitschkos relationship with his fellow Ukranian Glazkov?
Yes that is the point! :TU:
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It matters not. Fury drops the IBF. He doesn't need it. Like the WBC it becomes a paper title. Fury is the clear number 1.
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“It’s good for the heavyweight division, it means more challengers and more champions. The division has been boring for quite some time now.”

Glaskovs manager Egis Klimas totally not getting it.

More champions and more challenger is exactly what's wrong with boxing you Lithuanian buffoon
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dbflex wrote:
SteveO wrote:According to their rules, Fury does not have to fight the IBF mandatory challenger until November 2016. Newly crowned IBF champions have a year before they must defend their title.
I have posted a link - scroll down to Rule 5:

http://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/ibfu ... 7_2014.pdf
Not true. It also says in those rules that if a champion is dethroned in an "optional defence" - which Klitschko-Fury was in the IBF's definition - then the successful new champion inherits the former ruler's mandatory obligations. So if Klitschko last made an IBF mandatory defence a year ago, Fury has to make one soon.
Right, thanks dbflex. I wasn't aware of that rule.
No doubt Fury will drop the belt then. There's far more money to be earned in a Klitschko rematch.
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Davidreed wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:How is Klitschkos relationship with his fellow Ukranian Glazkov?
Yes that is the point! :TU:
No relationship. If anything unfriendly.
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So whoever picks up this IBF belt would just be a fake champion worse than Wilder.

The alphabets ruin this sport just having one recognised work champion in a weight class would be so much better
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Bids are due on 11th, Fury will drop the belt on the 11th. Joshua will beat White on the 12th impressively. Joshua will fly up to 3 in the IBF rankings. IBF call for bids for Joshua v Glazkov for the vacant title early next year.

This stinks of Eddie.
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smoothmoves wrote:Bids are due on 11th, Fury will drop the belt on the 11th. Joshua will beat White on the 12th impressively. Joshua will fly up to 3 in the IBF rankings. IBF call for bids for Joshua v Glazkov for the vacant title early next year.

This stinks of Eddie.
Funny you should say that, listen about three and a half minutes into this video from Sunday morning

https://youtu.be/jXHaNYa4niM
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HomicideHenry wrote:Peter Fury already has said it will be Klitschko in April or May... with no voluntaries in between.... so I am guessing the IBF will take the belt, or they will eat humble pie and keep the belt on Fury. Its their decision.
You're right Henry it will certainly be one of those options....
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Post by keithmoonhangover »

I think Wlad deserves a lot of credit for keeping the belts together. If I was Fury, I'd throw all of them away, except The Ring. He's the man, everyone knows he's the man. He doesn't need bullsh1t belts to prove it.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:I think Wlad deserves a lot of credit for keeping the belts together. If I was Fury, I'd throw all of them away, except The Ring. He's the man, everyone knows he's the man. He doesn't need bullsh1t belts to prove it.
:TU:
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smoothmoves wrote:Bids are due on 11th, Fury will drop the belt on the 11th. Joshua will beat White on the 12th impressively. Joshua will fly up to 3 in the IBF rankings. IBF call for bids for Joshua v Glazkov for the vacant title early next year.

This stinks of Eddie.
Can seriously see this happening and perfect for an Eddie PPV as well.

Charles Martin is next in line who has a seriously padded record. If they rank him high no reason for them not to rank Joshua high especially with Eddies relationship with them.
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smoothmoves wrote:Bids are due on 11th, Fury will drop the belt on the 11th. Joshua will beat White on the 12th impressively. Joshua will fly up to 3 in the IBF rankings. IBF call for bids for Joshua v Glazkov for the vacant title early next year.

This stinks of Eddie.
I was just saying this to my wife. It makes sense for the IBF to jump on the Joshua train.
Joshua will be able to be fed whoever the IBF wants and will be able to still develop. All while making a good chunk of change off of him
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IBF put new rankings out yesterday, Glazkov is 1, no one at 2, Klitschko at 3, then Martin, Teper and Szpilka. If Fury does vacate/gets stripped of the title, then the vacant title fight would be offered to Glazkov and Wlad first.
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