So, I re-watched Klitschko-Fury

[jezzamundo]

When I watched it live, the stream I had wouldn't go full-screen, crashed for a bit of round 9 and when it came back I couldn't get rid of some advertisements which partly obscured the action. Last night I found a link to the full fight with HBO commentary and decided to give it a go to get a more accurate picture of how the fight went. Originally I scored it 115-112 to Fury, giving Wlad rounds 3, 8, 9 and 12. I was also under the impression that Fury was unlucky to get the point deduction.

Re-watching the fight on full screen, I scored it as such:
Round 1 - Fury close
Round 2 - Fury clear
Round 3 - Even, Fury ineffective, but Wlad hardly threw anything
Round 4 - Fury clear
Round 5 - Fury clear
Round 6 - Fury clear
Round 7 - Fury clear
Round 8 - Klitschko clear
Round 9 - Fury close
Round 10 - Fury clear
Round 11 - Fury, even round after point deduction
Round 12 - Klitschko

So my final scorecard reads 117-111

Wlad's performance was undoubtedly dire, but while Fury certainly isn't Muhammad Ali, he fought very intelligently and was the deserving winner. I thought the point deduction was justified, but at the same time, the referee should have given Wlad warnings for holding and turning his back. Fury was lucky not to be deducted a second point in the 12th round, because he landed some blatant rabbit punches after already having a point taken off.

[Ricky_]

Klitchko got away with an absurd headbutt.

Kudos for rewatching that shit btw.

[HomicideHenry]

By my count there was at least five headbutts in that fight.... all but one, was caused by Tyson. Klitschko was blatant with using his head, leaping forward, bashing skulls, and then clinching. It all looked accidental, but I reckon that was the key. He was desparate. He wanted to do whatever he could to turn the fight in his favor, instead he busted up his own skin.

[Ilya Muromets]

I need to watch it again too, Jezz, but somehow I am reluctant to do so. Watching a big fight you get caught up in the excitement of the moment and rewatching it when calm and cool and collected you can be more objective. That's about the way I had it scored the first time, though. I didn't catch all the head butting that people are talking about here, but then I was watching it on a computer screen not a big hi def tv. What I want to get straight is what happened. Was it all Fury's super slickness that won the fight, or was something wrong with Wlad, like physically or mentally? I knew that Fury was super slick and I saw how much improved he was vs. Chisora, but I didn't think this would happen, but then not many people did. Was Wlad really trying to win?

[jezzamundo]

Wlad was certainly trying to win, but until the 12th, he wasn't willing to risk getting hurt himself in order to land his punches. I said before this fight that trading punches was a legitimate tactic for Wlad in this fight, because while both have fairly average whiskers, Wlad is the only one with A level punching power.

[jezzamundo]

When I saw the fight live I actually thought it was pretty exciting - not because of the action, but because of what the fight meant, in addition to the knowledge that neither fighter has a good chin and it could end suddenly at any point in time. Watching someone finally trying to outbox Wlad, rather than just bomb him out was a pleasure as well.

Rewatching it was less exciting, because all of the tension was gone, but Fury's performance was still impressive. I think Wlad's poor performance can be put down to a combination of him getting old and Fury's tactics putting him off his game.

[Coachmanager]

I think that Fury was exposed to Wlad right hand almost all the fight, if you see when Wlad is in range, Fury try to hit him with their two hands but Wlad only use his left and go back instead of throwing the right. He should work since today in the right uppercut and in right hook for the rematch, he had a lot of opportunities to land that two punches but he didn't throw. I remember a good uppercut who hurt Fury a little in 12 but I don't remember any right hook. So he should focus in this two punches trying to embrace them. Can a 40 years old men embrace them? Maybe not, but he should use it more if he wants to win.

And other question is in case that Wladimir begin to throw short right hands, could Fury adjust his game to avoid it?

[Ilya Muromets]

I think that Fury was exposed to Wlad right hand almost all the fight, if you see when Wlad is in range, Fury try to hit him with their two hands but Wlad only use his left and go back instead of throwing the right. He should work since today in the right uppercut and in right hook for the rematch, he had a lot of opportunities to land that two punches but he didn't throw. I remember a good uppercut who hurt Fury a little in 12 but I don't remember any right hook. So he should focus in this two punches trying to embrace them. Can a 40 years old men embrace them? Maybe not, but he should use it more if he wants to win.

And other question is in case that Wladimir begin to throw short right hands, could Fury adjust his game to avoid it?

Maybe something was wrong with his right arm. I need to watch the fight again.

[badkatt]

i had it 115 to 112 for fury

[Undefeated49-0]

When I watched it live, the stream I had wouldn't go full-screen, crashed for a bit of round 9 and when it came back I couldn't get rid of some advertisements which partly obscured the action. Last night I found a link to the full fight with HBO commentary and decided to give it a go to get a more accurate picture of how the fight went. Originally I scored it 115-112 to Fury, giving Wlad rounds 3, 8, 9 and 12. I was also under the impression that Fury was unlucky to get the point deduction.

Re-watching the fight on full screen, I scored it as such:
Round 1 - Fury close
Round 2 - Fury clear
Round 3 - Even, Fury ineffective, but Wlad hardly threw anything
Round 4 - Fury clear
Round 5 - Fury clear
Round 6 - Fury clear
Round 7 - Fury clear
Round 8 - Klitschko clear
Round 9 - Fury close
Round 10 - Fury clear
Round 11 - Fury, even round after point deduction
Round 12 - Klitschko

So my final scorecard reads 117-111

Wlad's performance was undoubtedly dire, but while Fury certainly isn't Muhammad Ali, he fought very intelligently and was the deserving winner. I thought the point deduction was justified, but at the same time, the referee should have given Wlad warnings for holding and turning his back. Fury was lucky not to be deducted a second point in the 12th round, because he landed some blatant rabbit punches after already having a point taken off.

It didn't take me two viewings of this boring fight (Wlad did nothing) to come to a conclusion of how easily Tyson won it, people talk about Rigo being boring; at least he does throw punches. All Wlad does is throw one shot and then tie up/hold.

[Davidreed]

When I watched it live, the stream I had wouldn't go full-screen, crashed for a bit of round 9 and when it came back I couldn't get rid of some advertisements which partly obscured the action. Last night I found a link to the full fight with HBO commentary and decided to give it a go to get a more accurate picture of how the fight went. Originally I scored it 115-112 to Fury, giving Wlad rounds 3, 8, 9 and 12. I was also under the impression that Fury was unlucky to get the point deduction.

Re-watching the fight on full screen, I scored it as such:
Round 1 - Fury close
Round 2 - Fury clear
Round 3 - Even, Fury ineffective, but Wlad hardly threw anything
Round 4 - Fury clear
Round 5 - Fury clear
Round 6 - Fury clear
Round 7 - Fury clear
Round 8 - Klitschko clear
Round 9 - Fury close
Round 10 - Fury clear
Round 11 - Fury, even round after point deduction
Round 12 - Klitschko

So my final scorecard reads 117-111

Wlad's performance was undoubtedly dire, but while Fury certainly isn't Muhammad Ali, he fought very intelligently and was the deserving winner. I thought the point deduction was justified, but at the same time, the referee should have given Wlad warnings for holding and turning his back. Fury was lucky not to be deducted a second point in the 12th round, because he landed some blatant rabbit punches after already having a point taken off.

Yes he isn't M.Ali. And your above stats may need changes. Do it now dude!!!!

[caldo2025]

I sat down last night to watch this fight again too but there was a piece of lint on my carpet that caught my attention and I stared at that for an hour instead. It's almost comical trying to score this fight. The 12th round was the only round that either guy displayed any type of technique or effective punches. In the grand scheme of things, it really ranks as the all time worst fight for the Heavyweight Championship in the World in my lifetime. By far.

[coneye]

it was what it was ,, One guy scared to get hit refusing to throw punches in case he got hit back , fighting or rather moving around with a bigger guy who was running away cos he was scared to get hit , but at least he did throw some punches , The intriguing part was who was gonna win ,, the guy who would'nt throw or the guy who threw and hit thin air or arms .

Noticed the only time both of them got hit with a decent punch they both wobbled ,, rematch will be the same , klitch just does'nt have the mindset , to say to Tyson its do or die lets get it on, and its now obvious, with Furys speed and size Vlad has no other option , he will not out jab or outbox Fury he has to drag him into the trenches , and vlad simply does'nt do that ... AJ or Wilder there the ones i want to see fight Fury , they will back themselves ,,, I think or at least I hope .

[Boxing Writer]

I think that Fury was exposed to Wlad right hand almost all the fight, if you see when Wlad is in range, Fury try to hit him with their two hands but Wlad only use his left and go back instead of throwing the right. He should work since today in the right uppercut and in right hook for the rematch, he had a lot of opportunities to land that two punches but he didn't throw. I remember a good uppercut who hurt Fury a little in 12 but I don't remember any right hook. So he should focus in this two punches trying to embrace them. Can a 40 years old men embrace them? Maybe not, but he should use it more if he wants to win.

And other question is in case that Wladimir begin to throw short right hands, could Fury adjust his game to avoid it?

Wlad's right hand accuracy is gone. It wasn't the same since 2012 really. Watch Pianeta and Povetkin fights in 2013 and you'll see he had a lot of problenms landing right hands there.

[jezzamundo]

When I watched it live, the stream I had wouldn't go full-screen, crashed for a bit of round 9 and when it came back I couldn't get rid of some advertisements which partly obscured the action. Last night I found a link to the full fight with HBO commentary and decided to give it a go to get a more accurate picture of how the fight went. Originally I scored it 115-112 to Fury, giving Wlad rounds 3, 8, 9 and 12. I was also under the impression that Fury was unlucky to get the point deduction.

Re-watching the fight on full screen, I scored it as such:
Round 1 - Fury close
Round 2 - Fury clear
Round 3 - Even, Fury ineffective, but Wlad hardly threw anything
Round 4 - Fury clear
Round 5 - Fury clear
Round 6 - Fury clear
Round 7 - Fury clear
Round 8 - Klitschko clear
Round 9 - Fury close
Round 10 - Fury clear
Round 11 - Fury, even round after point deduction
Round 12 - Klitschko

So my final scorecard reads 117-111

Wlad's performance was undoubtedly dire, but while Fury certainly isn't Muhammad Ali, he fought very intelligently and was the deserving winner. I thought the point deduction was justified, but at the same time, the referee should have given Wlad warnings for holding and turning his back. Fury was lucky not to be deducted a second point in the 12th round, because he landed some blatant rabbit punches after already having a point taken off.

Yes he isn't M.Ali. And your above stats may need changes. Do it now dude!!!!

Which stats need changes?

[Davidreed]

Round 4,5,6,7

[Freedom2013]

I can't re-watch it.

It will likely be the only Klitschko fight that I won't watch more than once.

[pound per pound]

The fight was poor with little action. One guy had limited skills, the other opted not to fight until the end.

Some rounds were boring with little action. This fight could have had as more than one 10-10 round scored.

Fury won the fight, and kudos for the judges for getting it right.

[Butterbean]

imaeriously shocked. whats up with klit not knocking this dude the fcuk out. is it a scam ?

[Davidreed]

imaeriously shocked. whats up with klit not knocking this dude the fcuk out. is it a scam ?

That was just views and you are going to out someone. Be patient man!!!!

[Bard of Boxrec]

I can't re-watch it.

It will likely be the only Klitschko fight that I won't watch more than once.

You may have been wasting your life rewatching the Ibragimov, Jennings, Povetkin, Haye, etc, etc, 'fights'.

[man]

reality is: this was a ridiculously boring
fight and it is hard not to blame wladimir
for being totally unable to pull the trigger.

[SFW]

If we are honest, Vlad is responsible for many awful fights. Almost none of which are worth watching again. Very little action, constant clinching or fouling, it's puzzling why anyone would enjoy that.

[tiny_acres]

If we are honest, Vlad is responsible for many awful fights. Almost none of which are worth watching again. Very little action, constant clinching or fouling, it's puzzling why anyone would enjoy that.

With out a doubt the most boring Heavyweight champion in history.
Very successful but very boring.

[greg]

...knowing how much was at stake for both fighters, I didn't find it that boring...Fury looked like a lively underdog..I was surprised though that Wlad failed to readjust and pull the trigger...a lot of rounds I thought were difficult to score...no wonder because according to stats, the output was ridiculously low ...