klitschko v fury 2? a better or worse wlad?

jmcbox · Post by **jmcbox** » 07 Dec 2015, 15:09

tyson fury(25-0) dethroned WBA/WBO/IBF/IBO champ wladmir klitschko(64-4)and ending his 10 year undefeated reign, wlad has decided to take up the clause of an immediate rematch in the contract they signed before the first fight. That means new champ fury cant fight other opponents until he faces wlad again

Personally i think this is the wrong move for wlad because he looked so terrible in the fight against fury like it wasnt even a close fight even with furys point of in the 11th for back of the head punches the scores were offically 115-112×2 and 116-111 tbh if it was 116-111 all round it woudnt of been a shocking decision i could only give wlad about 3 rounds in the whole fight he just didnt let his hands go an fury switching in an out of range baffled the experienced wlad like for an experienced fighter like wlad not to be able to adjust was shocking because its like he has one style for smaller opponents an thats it an he coudnt enforce that on the bigger fury and even in his last fight before fury against bryant jennings he looked poor like if jennings was a bigger man he could of gave wlad a terrible time in there i think wlad should off took a tune up fight before cashing in his rematch against a fighter he could have a easier time against like chris arreola or bermane stiverne someone of that calibur because if wlad has aged over night and cant let his shots go i see fury doing the same job on him again and even possibly putting more mustard on his shots and get wlad out of there this time.

But anyway the rematch will happen but with fury beig champ now we could see the rematch in england at wembley or at the big stadium in ireland because of furys irish traveller roots but anyway if wlad doesnt change his style dramatically which at his age is rare to see an without switching trainers away from his current one jonathon banks i see fury beating him by ko this time or by a wider score card but wlad does derserve the respect an greats champs have had there off nights an came back strong so well have to see if klitschko can come back or is the klitschko era offically over.

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 07 Dec 2015, 15:24

In every case a smarter Klitschko, because he only seemed to start fighting after about round 8.

jmcbox · Post by **jmcbox** » 07 Dec 2015, 15:48

Hopefully yh the fight can be more competitive an klitschko lets his hands go

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 07 Dec 2015, 16:06

Wlad looked old and slow.The longer it takes for a rematch the worse he will be.
I do not think Wlad will do any better.I actually think he may lose by knock out this time.

Wlad can still beat most contenders out there.But Fury is not one he can beat now.

pound per pound · Post by **pound per pound** » 07 Dec 2015, 17:05

Wladimir has responded well to criticism in the past, and in all cases made adjustments in his rematches. While age was certainly a factor, I think he was ill prepared to see Fury fight the way he did and didn't exactly receive inspiring advice from his corner until it was too late.

Factor in a cut, and a few fouls which might have hurt him, and Wladimir who averages about 50 pounds around only threw about 19.

All Wladimir has to do is land 1 or 2 early power punches, and Fury will begin to act like Wladimir did in the fight or go down. I highly doubt Fury will counter him anyway, so he might as well let his jab go, then follow up with the cross or hook when Fury is in distress.

Stevieb8006 · Post by **Stevieb8006** » 07 Dec 2015, 17:46

I think wlads missus had his head in a state. Don't think he'd enjoy England tho. Open press conferences and all that

Lancenix · Post by **Lancenix** » 07 Dec 2015, 20:26

If Wlad opens up he will be KO'D. If Wlad tries to win it will be with a lot of holding and more holding. Take your pick, he cannot change now. His muscle memory is hot and he knows nothing to do but hold. When Tyson hit him many times Wlad turned his back to him. It was pathetic. He is done.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 07 Dec 2015, 21:23

We couldn't possibly see a worse Wlad

Badhusker · Post by **Badhusker** » 07 Dec 2015, 23:00

My only worry is if Wlad wins will there be another re-match clause? I wouldn't be able to sit through it a 3rd time.

Wlad will do better....he can't do any worse.

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 07 Dec 2015, 23:41

Basically Wlad would be physically worse but stylistically better prepared. That would make him worse against the heavyweight field in general, but probably slightly better in the Fury match-up.

dominik · Post by **dominik** » 08 Dec 2015, 08:19

I think wlad can only win by KO at this Point. he can no longer throw 60 punches a round like he could in his best years. he also was prepared not well strategically and might get better in that regard but he will be even older.

his Chance to win is getting a good Coach (not Banks) that is able to read fury's footwork and head movement Patterns so that Wladimir can time him up and land big early. I think wlad is no longer quick enough to chase down fury but if he is able to time fury's movement and land big early he can win the fight. won't be easy though because he is old and Adaptation in the ring is not his strength anyway.

Ade L · Post by **Ade L** » 08 Dec 2015, 08:36

A better Wlad, although I think it will be his last fight either way.

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 08 Dec 2015, 08:37

dominik wrote:I think wlad can only win by KO at this Point. he can no longer throw 60 punches a round like he could in his best years. he also was prepared not well strategically and might get better in that regard but he will be even older.

his Chance to win is getting a good Coach (not Banks) that is able to read fury's footwork and head movement Patterns so that Wladimir can time him up and land big early. I think wlad is no longer quick enough to chase down fury but if he is able to time fury's movement and land big early he can win the fight. won't be easy though because he is old and Adaptation in the ring is not his strength anyway.

Excellent post!

sucracristo · Post by **sucracristo** » 08 Dec 2015, 09:32

one last big paycheck for wlad. or wait, didn't he sign a multi fight contract with a
tv network recently? he could take a few beatings before retiring

Rexob · Post by **Rexob** » 08 Dec 2015, 16:08

Badhusker wrote:My only worry is if Wlad wins will there be another re-match clause? I wouldn't be able to sit through it a 3rd time.

Wlad will do better....he can't do any worse.

Unless Klit gets knocked out, which will probably happen, Fury has his number and KLIT is in for a whole world of pain.

wkhan69 · Post by **wkhan69** » 11 Dec 2015, 00:59

It will be interesting to watch, but mainly because of the history of Wlad and the bravado of Fury. Still, I think the first fight was Klitschko's absolute worst performance. He looked like a statue. And Fury didn't show much either. (Mind you, he didn't need to when he was fighting a statue - his head movements were enough to put Wlad in a trance). I had a lot of hope for this first fight, but after seeing all the "nothing-happening", I couldn't believe this was a heavy weight championship fight.

My take on the fighters: Fury hasn't fought any really great fighter (other than Wlad) - if he would have fought Haye (or Povetkin), then we could have seen his skill. So, in my mind, Fury is still an unproven fighter (against any greats). And Wlad was terrible. His previous fight against Jennings looked bad too, and he struggled to win that one. But, to answer the thread, this second fight will be better for Wlad because it is impossible for him to be any worse than his previous fight. You can only go up from there. And if Wlad retires after this second fight, at least if he lets his hands go, he can retire respectfully.

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 11 Dec 2015, 08:13

wkhan69 wrote:It will be interesting to watch, but mainly because of the history of Wlad and the bravado of Fury. Still, I think the first fight was Klitschko's absolute worst performance. He looked like a statue. And Fury didn't show much either. (Mind you, he didn't need to when he was fighting a statue - his head movements were enough to put Wlad in a trance). I had a lot of hope for this first fight, but after seeing all the "nothing-happening", I couldn't believe this was a heavy weight championship fight.

My take on the fighters: Fury hasn't fought any really great fighter (other than Wlad) - if he would have fought Haye (or Povetkin), then we could have seen his skill. So, in my mind, Fury is still an unproven fighter (against any greats). And Wlad was terrible. His previous fight against Jennings looked bad too, and he struggled to win that one. But, to answer the thread, this second fight will be better for Wlad because it is impossible for him to be any worse than his previous fight. You can only go up from there. And if Wlad retires after this second fight, at least if he lets his hands go, he can retire respectfully.

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