Coco wrote:Joshua needs rounds, this was a great learning fight for him, more of the same at a similar level before he steps up to Euro level.
Suspicions of Brunoesque chin and stamina are still there for me but fights like tonight should build both.
I would make Hughie Fury favorite against him.
Hughie Fury?? Come on, no way would he be favourite against Joshua.
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Not the bookies favorite, the bookies think Joshua would beat Tyson!
I think Hughie will win, Hughie is a class act.
This is one I wanted to see a while back, or certainly one I looked forward to as a potential future match up. I wasn't so sure after Hughies long lay off and felt AJ had progressed while Hughie had sat still, but Hughie would be an interesting match up, real clash of styles.
Would tell us a lot about either man, neither of which have reached their full potential. Both men a lot better test than the other has faced so far
Possibly, might be physically too much for him, but it would be a step up from Whyte IMO.
As I said, the contrast of styles would be worth watching and a different test from AJ's previous opposition.
Mind, Hughie has still to show how good he can be, he might spring a surprise
Baboon wrote:
Agree. The double analyst thing didnt work, but it did show Watt up as drivelling some load of pish versus some well thought through analysis from Malignaggi.
I could listen to Paulie all day, he really knows all aspects of boxing.
Malignaggi is an asshole. He ranted for years about Pacquiao being on PED's then when Floyd got busted for his IV drip he made all kinds of excuses, probably due to being signed by Haymon. After ofcourse, bitching and moaning about the Broner decision becuase "broner is the connected guy", it's all Haymon corruption and needs exposes.... signs with Haymon months later.
What's that got to do with the strength of his commentating/analysis?
I was a big AJ fan but he looked terrible whenever tagged. Whyte is way worse (with respect) than most of the top 10. When hiT AJs hands dropped and his chin never looked amazing. He looked like he'd be ko'd any second, and someone with Fury's stamina would've finished him
Just got in from work & watched the fight & didn't think Joshua looked bad at all*. No disrespect to anyone but I think many thought Joshua would win easily & when he didn't live up to their expectations they will say "Oh, he looked bad".
Obviously I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the other bloke DD
* - I'm always tentative about British heavyweights as a result of having grown up in the 70's & 80's plus having a family interested in boxing history. As a result I don't get too hyped up on one until they've really proven it.
Coco has backed Hughie from the start to be fair to him. It's not a fight I'd be against and if Hughie can hold a shot it would be very interesting.
Whyte v Hughie is another I'd like to see. As I said somewhere else, I'm just as interested in seeing where Whyte goes next. I bet his out fighting before Joshua is
What I find laughable is that knowledgable boxing fans, pundits, experts and insider people who should know better got carried away with the hype anyway. He may still go on to be decent if not very good but to say so based on some good wins against limited opposition is daft.
Surely we all know that smashing easy guys who have not fought back only shows a certain amount of what a fighter has inside. How many times have people blitzed through early opposition then come unstuck at the next level? I am sure we could list a thousand fighters.
Maybe stating the obvious, but Joshua (like Eubank Jr earlier) really neglected the jab in favour of power.
All the hulking HW punchers (Louis, Liston, Foreman, Bowe, Lewis, Wlad) build around a jab; aside from anything else, a big guys can't throw power shots round after round. Joshua will need to learn dominate whole rounds with just the jab in 12 round fights.
For me also the jab is crucial, which is why I like Hughie, with this jab and movement he won't be there to be bombed out.
This jab and movement will make for a longer fight and Joshua still need to prove his chin and stamina over the long distance.
I have always liked Hughie, Joshua and his hype machine has been very impressive, while Fury has been ill, inactive and tread water.
However after the Whyte fight I see enough flaws to confidently predict a Fury win. On the other hand hopefully it was a great learning fight for Joshua, and him and his team are humble enough to start ironing out these flaws. The Watford man is a real talent, and if he showed the improvement that Tyson showed after McDermott, he could easily prove me wrong.
davie wrote:
Eddie Hearn has actually got me to the point where I'm backing against British fighters that I like, willing exciting prospects to fall at the next hurdle and doing a little inside when I see a result go the wrong way for one of his fighters, just so I can see the look of disappointment on his smug puss.
expe wrote:I think Hearn and Crolla might just take another look at that offer to fight Flanagan.
I can imagine Camp Eddie constantly ringing Wazza HQ and Bunny being in the office playing the indoor putting machine with a big massive Cuban cigar sticking out his mouth telling his secetary to put Fast Car on hold
Nightmare Roy wrote:
I could listen to Paulie all day, he really knows all aspects of boxing.
Malignaggi is an asshole. He ranted for years about Pacquiao being on PED's then when Floyd got busted for his IV drip he made all kinds of excuses, probably due to being signed by Haymon. After ofcourse, bitching and moaning about the Broner decision becuase "broner is the connected guy", it's all Haymon corruption and needs exposes.... signs with Haymon months later.
What's that got to do with the strength of his commentating/analysis?
Lacking intergrity and having an inability to be objective?
1 thing that i dont think has been mentioned is Joshua's recooparitive powers after getting wobbled in the 2nd round,he was fine after 5 seconds,similar to when Brook got staggered by Senchenko,the 1 thing that worried me about Anthony was not the fact that he got hurt,it was the fact that he forgot to box,neglected the jab and was loading up following Whyte around the ring not throwing for spells,thats what he needs to address if he's to step up
handsofstone wrote:1 thing that i dont think has been mentioned is Joshua's recooparitive powers after getting wobbled in the 2nd round,he was fine after 5 seconds,similar to when Brook got staggered by Senchenko,the 1 thing that worried me about Anthony was not the fact that he got hurt,it was the fact that he forgot to box,neglected the jab and was loading up following Whyte around the ring not throwing for spells,thats what he needs to address if he's to step up
Some people are impossible to please, if Joshua had smashed Whyte in a round they would have moaned that he learned nothing from another one sided blowout.
But instead the fight went a few rounds, Joshua took a few shots that he had to recover from and he had to make adjustments mid-fight before stopping a clearly tough as nails opponent.
Yet people are now saying he has been exposed, what do people want exactly?
I do like Paulie on commentary, he tends to call the fight as he sees it, unlike Watt who talks about the fight as he thinks it should be.
Some people are impossible to please, if Joshua had smashed Whyte in a round they would have moaned that he learned nothing from another one sided blowout.
But instead the fight went a few rounds, Joshua took a few shots that he had to recover from and he had to make adjustments mid-fight before stopping a clearly tough as nails opponent.
Yet people are now saying he has been exposed, what do people want exactly?
I do like Paulie on commentary, he tends to call the fight as he sees it, unlike Watt who talks about the fight as he thinks it should be.
I tend to think many people want AJ to fail so they can say 'Told yer so'
expe wrote:I think Hearn and Crolla might just take another look at that offer to fight Flanagan.
I can imagine Camp Eddie constantly ringing Wazza HQ and Bunny being in the office playing the indoor putting machine with a big massive Cuban cigar sticking out his mouth telling his secetary to put Fast Car on hold
I think people are wanting to see Joshua fail because there is something a little unlikeable about him. Like his response to Ed Robinson about him now respecting Whyte. Its funny because he gave his media trained response a moment before "enough respect, he can come again" but then you sometimes get the real Joshua He has been ridiculously media trained, but occasionally his true colours come through, I think his true colours are him practically stepping over an unconscious Whyte to milk to celebrations, him sticking his tongue out to a dazed and semi conscious Whyte on a frequent number of occasions..... School bully stuff.
Fury is a bit of a pantomime villan, but doesn't hide behind a PR machine. Sometimes you wish he would, but I've got more respect for Fury for being an honest arsehole as opposed to someone so PR trained you cannot take to or relate too, cos you do not know them. I remember Larry Holmes saying about Tyson coming through that eventually he'll go off the rails - he wasn't far wrong (and Tyson in his early days was similarly trained). I'm not sure why, but I have a similar hunch about Joshua - either after he retires or after he is beaten.
Some people are impossible to please, if Joshua had smashed Whyte in a round they would have moaned that he learned nothing from another one sided blowout.
But instead the fight went a few rounds, Joshua took a few shots that he had to recover from and he had to make adjustments mid-fight before stopping a clearly tough as nails opponent.
Yet people are now saying he has been exposed, what do people want exactly?
I do like Paulie on commentary, he tends to call the fight as he sees it, unlike Watt who talks about the fight as he thinks it should be.
I tend to think many people want AJ to fail so they can say 'Told yer so'
I think the issue was that AJ was hyped to insane proportions yet hadn't been tested. He has now had his chin tested and didn't take it well. Yes he showed class in getting back into the fight but he also showed he needs proper training on his defence and footwork or he is going to take a bad beating when he steps up a level.
DD 
inside when I see a result go the wrong way for one of his fighters, just so I can see the look of disappointment on his smug puss.
Great image 