It's the hope that kills you.Ricky_ wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Two world title fights featuring gypsies and two absolute stinkers. Awful fights.
Do you think there's something in their background or upbringing that makes them terrified to engage? Fury/BJS/Lee all talk a good game but look absolutely terrified of getting hit.
What has there upbringing got to do with it? Two tactical performances, two great wins. If they fought like Gatti they'd bad thick gypo's. This forum's reaction to Tyson and BJS wins has been disgusting.Ricky_ wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Two world title fights featuring gypsies and two absolute stinkers. Awful fights.
Do you think there's something in their background or upbringing that makes them terrified to engage? Fury/BJS/Lee all talk a good game but look absolutely terrified of getting hit.
They were in shit fights Mickey. If they were in great fights the post would have read.....mickey1975 wrote:What has there upbringing got to do with it? Two tactical performances, two great wins. If they fought like Gatti they'd bad thick gypo's. This forum's reaction to Tyson and BJS wins has been disgusting.Ricky_ wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Two world title fights featuring gypsies and two absolute stinkers. Awful fights.
Do you think there's something in their background or upbringing that makes them terrified to engage? Fury/BJS/Lee all talk a good game but look absolutely terrified of getting hit.
People seem to think that just because it wasn't an exciting fight they must be shite, it was an intelligent fight from BJS, he knows what Lee can do when Quillin put him down Lee can recover quickly and put you to sleep if your not careful, maybe he could of gone up a gear but he will have learnt massively from that tonight. Last week Eubank jr was getting caught often by Spike and showed his poor footwork and defence but because the fight was exciting and Spike quit People think Eubank is better then BJS now, ridiculous if you ask me.expe wrote:He did what he had to do tonight, understandably wary of the power that Lee carries so he wasn't going to take many chances. To box his way to a points win over a world class fighter without ever really committing on the front foot shows how good he is. Winning this will make him a much better fighter just through the confidence it gives him and as he makes more defences he'll grow into a superb fighter over the years, easy to forget he's still only 26, as long as he lives the life between fights, something I think has now sunk in, he'll be around for a long time to come.digzee wrote:I just hope BJS kicks on now as he's better then he's shown tonight.
Why is everyone taking about GGG like he's the standard you need to get to? He's P4P top 3 so leave him out of the discussion, BJS knows he's not in his league.
You're right about Golovkin too, I can understand people wanting the fight because they're in the same division and Golovkin wants all the belts, but he's just won his first world title, he doesn't need to start stepping up to P4P level yet, let him establish himself at world level with some solid defences first, then start talking about fights like that. Golovkin and Alvarez are having another fight each then getting in the ring with each other next year. I think the winner of that will move up, especially if it's Golovkin, but if they don't then that's the sort of fight Billy Joe should be looking towards sometime in 2017 once he's put some money in the bank.
^^^ That's my favourite kind of discrimination right there ^^^keithmoonhangover wrote:They were in poo fights Mickey. If they were in great fights the post would have read.....mickey1975 wrote:What has there upbringing got to do with it? Two tactical performances, two great wins. If they fought like Gatti they'd bad thick gypo's. This forum's reaction to Tyson and BJS wins has been disgusting.Ricky_ wrote:
Do you think there's something in their background or upbringing that makes them terrified to engage? Fury/BJS/Lee all talk a good game but look absolutely terrified of getting hit.
Two world title fights featuring gypsies and two absolute stonkers. Amazing fights.
Stop trying to make out I'm anti-gypsies, coz I'm not. I'm anti-shit fights.
I'd put money on Kerry Hope or someone of that standard in the WBO top 15 followed by the Eubank rematchShadrachSimmo wrote:Lee looked very fragile early on and BJS power is very average at best. The lack of engaging from the 3rd on cost Lee the fight and could of cost BJS too.
Strange fight. Seen much better from both and they need to move on. Fcuk knows who BJS fights next though?
I was shouting that at the TV from round two. I think BJS nullified his attack to some extent, although that's what separates good boxers from great boxers. Great boxers find a way to unlock the puzzle and land the punches they want.Boxerbeetle wrote:I wonder why Lee wasn't throwing body punches? Booth told him repeatedly to do so, would have been perfect tactics against someone with suspect stamina like Saunders (who's also always looked fragile to the body imo).
As you know, I've got mates who are travellers and I would never call anyone a 'thick gypo' and I'm disappointed you would even suggest that. I do think you use positive discrimination regarding gypsies.mickey1975 wrote:If they fought like Gatti they'd bad thick gypo's. This forum's reaction to Tyson and BJS wins has been disgusting.
jimcook wrote:his punch picking and counters were every bit as good as mayweather.
Correct.Medulla Oblongata wrote:No, he's one of the most technically limited fighters to ever hold a title, he's got a big punch and that's alljimcook wrote: lee was a big punching , intelligent , experienced middleweight
Tuan_Jim wrote:This is an awful fight.
I knoq, I was really looking forward to it as well - what a boring scrap.Or the psychotic.Medulla Oblongata wrote:One for the purists
Not at all. I remember Frank Bruno getting an open top bus round London and being on every chat show going for weeks after beating Oliver f*cking McCall in his home town. Tyson did the unthinkable, and the hatred has got worse!keithmoonhangover wrote:As you know, I've got mates who are travellers and I would never call anyone a 'thick gypo' and I'm disappointed you would even suggest that. I do think you use positive discrimination regarding gypsies.mickey1975 wrote:If they fought like Gatti they'd bad thick gypo's. This forum's reaction to Tyson and BJS wins has been disgusting.
From my experience I never heard anyone slag Fury for being a traveller (personally)... And certainly not in the media! The right on media wouldn't dare criticise a minority. They criticised for perceived 'homophobic' comments and weirdly I even read a few accusing him of racism; though they provided no actual evidence of this?! It was all very bizarre.mickey1975 wrote:Not at all. I remember Frank Bruno getting an open top bus round London and being on every chat show going for weeks after beating Oliver f*cking McCall in his home town. Tyson did the unthinkable, and the hatred has got worse!keithmoonhangover wrote:As you know, I've got mates who are travellers and I would never call anyone a 'thick gypo' and I'm disappointed you would even suggest that. I do think you use positive discrimination regarding gypsies.mickey1975 wrote:If they fought like Gatti they'd bad thick gypo's. This forum's reaction to Tyson and BJS wins has been disgusting.
DNo, Richard Littlejohn has..... :)palooka wrote:Has Horse hacked Reggae's account
It's all about individual popularity and let's not forget, it was Bruno's people that paid for it. Bruno was wildly popular and with all due respect, Fury isn't. Bruno fought on BBC, came across as a genuinely nice guy and appealed to non boxing fans. Fury polarizes people, I like the dude, although I don't agree with some of his views. but I know plenty of people that think he's a bell end. Of course a small minority of small minded people will dislike him because he is a gypsy, in the same way a small minority don't like Bruno because he's black.mickey1975 wrote:Not at all. I remember Frank Bruno getting an open top bus round London and being on every chat show going for weeks after beating Oliver f*cking McCall in his home town. Tyson did the unthinkable, and the hatred has got worse!keithmoonhangover wrote:As you know, I've got mates who are travellers and I would never call anyone a 'thick gypo' and I'm disappointed you would even suggest that. I do think you use positive discrimination regarding gypsies.mickey1975 wrote:If they fought like Gatti they'd bad thick gypo's. This forum's reaction to Tyson and BJS wins has been disgusting.