allegedly Vs Sky coverage

[Supremo]

What a difference watching the BN coverage tonight compared to the tripe Sky served up the last few weeks when we missed the O'Sullivan quitting and Fury crying.
I can't remember when the last advert was tonight, must have been at least 45 minutes ago. Not missed a bit of action and heard every word in the corner without ridiculous apologies any time they swear.
Fair play to allegedly and old Fish eyes

[ThereByTheGrace]

Yeah total boxing no bullshit! Cant argue with the show tonight

[Boxerbeetle]

Spot on. Even after all these years, Sky are still amateurs when it comes to boxing coverage.

[handsofstone]

[bigjack]

oh yes allegedly is still the master a boxing show for boxing fans,quality

[jamiem26]

oh yes allegedly is still the master a boxing show for boxing fans,quality

It's just a shame that there were only about 4k there for it.

[bigjack]

oh yes allegedly is still the master a boxing show for boxing fans,quality

It's just a shame that there were only about 4k there for it.

Is that all ? wrong location and wrong date i would think

[expe]

oh yes allegedly is still the master a boxing show for boxing fans,quality

It's just a shame that there were only about 4k there for it.

Is that all ? wrong location and wrong date i would think

Bit more than that, was set up for about 7k and it wasn't far off full so I'd say around 6k in, which still isn't great but after two postponements, a week before Christmas and neither fighter having any connection to Manchester it was ok. Looked like they upped the production quality too, not really a factor for us but casual fans like the lights, music, etc and cutting the arena down improved the atmosphere too. Good fights too and Saunders came out with the title so on the whole a decent night for Fwank, even if he did lose money on the show.

[ashedward]

I like what B ox nation put on tonight my only gripe is that they could hsve had more reaction and analysis after the fight did Lee get interviewed im not sure

[expe]

I like what B ox nation put on tonight my only gripe is that they could hsve had more reaction and analysis after the fight did Lee get interviewed im not sure

Lee probably headed backstage straight after, didn't get interviewed. Would have been good if they went to the break then got a load of chairs and a table and brought everyone in they spoke to on the night, Conlan, McDonagh, Lillis, Enzo, Buglioni, etc, Naz too and spent an hour/half an hour discussing the last year and next year too, with some discussion about the fight too.

[pyenest77]

I was there loads more than 4k. Definitely more than the Crolla bill.

[jamiem26]

It's just a shame that there were only about 4k there for it.

Is that all ? wrong location and wrong date i would think

Bit more than that, was set up for about 7k and it wasn't far off full so I'd say around 6k in, which still isn't great but after two postponements, a week before Christmas and neither fighter having any connection to Manchester it was ok. Looked like they upped the production quality too, not really a factor for us but casual fans like the lights, music, etc and cutting the arena down improved the atmosphere too. Good fights too and Saunders came out with the title so on the whole a decent night for Fwank, even if he did lose money on the show.

Fair play, my number was a guess on watching it/photos. Still, the bill deserved a bigger crowd but the points you made are valid.

Good card.

Frank's in a good position going into the new year with Flanagan, Saunders and Liam Smith holding world titles.

[pyenest77]

I like what B ox nation put on tonight my only gripe is that they could hsve had more reaction and analysis after the fight did Lee get interviewed im not sure

Lee went straight to the dressing room.

[veriton]

what an awful, disappointing fight though. and that in-house tv commentary BS phrase of "showing each other too much respect" is what we used to just call "scared of getting hit".

lee and saunders were negative to the extreme, aside from the third round when BJS got the knockdowns out of nowhere and then was even more cautious in the fourth (did he even throw a punch in that round?!)

i thought it was going to be a great fight and had been looking forward to it for months but then that happened zzzzzzzzzzzzz

allegedly coverage was really good though, stuck with it almost from the start and plenty of entertainment before the big snoozer at the end. catteral fight was good, evans/ stalker too, smith/kelly was decent enough as far as mismatches go but best of the show (for me) has to be langford..the force has awakened in that boy!

[Supremo]

what an awful, disappointing fight though. and that in-house tv commentary BS phrase of "showing each other too much respect" is what we used to just call "scared of getting hit".

lee and saunders were negative to the extreme, aside from the third round when BJS got the knockdowns out of nowhere and then was even more cautious in the fourth (did he even throw a punch in that round?!)

i thought it was going to be a great fight and had been looking forward to it for months but then that happened zzzzzzzzzzzzz

allegedly coverage was really good though, stuck with it almost from the start and plenty of entertainment before the big snoozer at the end. catteral fight was good, evans/ stalker too, smith/kelly was decent enough as far as mismatches go but best of the show (for me) has to be langford..the force has awakened in that boy!

Wladimir Klitchsko or Audley Harrison are what I would call "scared of getting hit".
I think that Billy was just very aware of Andy Lee's right hook and straight left and being the shorter man had to pick his time to do his raids, he wanted to let Andy throw out a lazy jab or straight left and then counter him to take it away. He wanted Andy to go first and counter. Andy had ideas that he knew Billy had faster hands so if they both opened up inside then Billy was going to come off best but Billy would need to come into his range to hit him so he wanted Billy to make the first move and then catch him whilst he was coming in.

Neither were really "scared" to get hit, more that there strategys relied upon the other guy starting the action and neither wanted to.

[Coco]

I thought it was a really good show, and the lack of adverts is heart warming

[forcefraser]

Wouldn`t mind seeing Webster get her kit of though. Nice piece of work that girl.

[Boxerbeetle]

Wouldn`t mind seeing Webster get her kit of though. Nice piece of work that girl.

Just do some Google image searches mate

[tony1234]

I wish they would get HD on their Virgin coverage, same with SKY PPV, not good enough not having HD when you pay top dollar for it

[veriton]

what an awful, disappointing fight though. and that in-house tv commentary BS phrase of "showing each other too much respect" is what we used to just call "scared of getting hit".

lee and saunders were negative to the extreme, aside from the third round when BJS got the knockdowns out of nowhere and then was even more cautious in the fourth (did he even throw a punch in that round?!)

i thought it was going to be a great fight and had been looking forward to it for months but then that happened zzzzzzzzzzzzz

allegedly coverage was really good though, stuck with it almost from the start and plenty of entertainment before the big snoozer at the end. catteral fight was good, evans/ stalker too, smith/kelly was decent enough as far as mismatches go but best of the show (for me) has to be langford..the force has awakened in that boy!

Wladimir Klitchsko or Audley Harrison are what I would call "scared of getting hit".
I think that Billy was just very aware of Andy Lee's right hook and straight left and being the shorter man had to pick his time to do his raids, he wanted to let Andy throw out a lazy jab or straight left and then counter him to take it away. He wanted Andy to go first and counter. Andy had ideas that he knew Billy had faster hands so if they both opened up inside then Billy was going to come off best but Billy would need to come into his range to hit him so he wanted Billy to make the first move and then catch him whilst he was coming in.

Neither were really "scared" to get hit, more that there strategys relied upon the other guy starting the action and neither wanted to.

same difference? "very aware" and "scared to get hit" mean the same thing in my book and have the same outcome - boxers afriad to throw punches or engage in case they get hit themselves. not expecting everyone to be gatti, but there is a way to be smart not just stood there without doing anything for almost the full 12 rounds. id imagine marvin hagler was"very aware" of tommy hearns right hand, just as more recently martin murray was "very aware" of what GGG was capable of. didn't stop either of them from engaging did it, and trying to win the fight. lee and saunders embarrassed themselves last night.

[Supremo]

what an awful, disappointing fight though. and that in-house tv commentary BS phrase of "showing each other too much respect" is what we used to just call "scared of getting hit".

lee and saunders were negative to the extreme, aside from the third round when BJS got the knockdowns out of nowhere and then was even more cautious in the fourth (did he even throw a punch in that round?!)

i thought it was going to be a great fight and had been looking forward to it for months but then that happened zzzzzzzzzzzzz

allegedly coverage was really good though, stuck with it almost from the start and plenty of entertainment before the big snoozer at the end. catteral fight was good, evans/ stalker too, smith/kelly was decent enough as far as mismatches go but best of the show (for me) has to be langford..the force has awakened in that boy!

Wladimir Klitchsko or Audley Harrison are what I would call "scared of getting hit".
I think that Billy was just very aware of Andy Lee's right hook and straight left and being the shorter man had to pick his time to do his raids, he wanted to let Andy throw out a lazy jab or straight left and then counter him to take it away. He wanted Andy to go first and counter. Andy had ideas that he knew Billy had faster hands so if they both opened up inside then Billy was going to come off best but Billy would need to come into his range to hit him so he wanted Billy to make the first move and then catch him whilst he was coming in.

Neither were really "scared" to get hit, more that there strategys relied upon the other guy starting the action and neither wanted to.

same difference? "very aware" and "scared to get hit" mean the same thing in my book and have the same outcome - boxers afriad to throw punches or engage in case they get hit themselves. not expecting everyone to be gatti, but there is a way to be smart not just stood there without doing anything for almost the full 12 rounds. id imagine marvin hagler was"very aware" of tommy hearns right hand, just as more recently martin murray was "very aware" of what GGG was capable of. didn't stop either of them from engaging did it, and trying to win the fight. lee and saunders embarrassed themselves last night.

Fair enough, I said pretty similar stuff after the Wlad vs Fury fight yet I defended BJS vs Lee. Maybe my views are biased as I had a few hundred quid on Wlad by KO and I won a few hundred quid last night by betting BJS on points...

[reggaereggae]

Allegedly is far from perfect, but Barry Jones is generally a good, insightful commentator, my favourite. Rawling isn't good, but no worse than the Sky clowns. That bird Charlie is even quite a good interviewer, and at least she's good to look at, during Sky interviews they only show the interviewer's hand he's so ugly!

With regards to the ads - I can just about put up with them in a 'non-PPV' show but during PPV where the viewer has been striped for £18 plus a monthly bill of £20 (I'm guessing, cancelled long ago) AND tied into a one year contract....

And STILL they have to disrupt the fights with ads in between rounds which can ruin the spectacle. Wankers. Oh.... and they even have a show sponsor featured before and after every break (will hill). Sure, show a couple of Ads between fights but during rounds?!

I watched UFC PPV on a U.S. show and it didn't have ad breaks. It did have annoying sponsor spots, and product mentions which I also don't like....but whatever.

SKY is like the Payday loan lender of the TV world. Just trying to rob the consumer of as much money as they can get away with....

[Josh1111]

It's just a shame that there were only about 4k there for it.

Is that all ? wrong location and wrong date i would think

Bit more than that, was set up for about 7k and it wasn't far off full so I'd say around 6k in, which still isn't great but after two postponements, a week before Christmas and neither fighter having any connection to Manchester it was ok. Looked like they upped the production quality too, not really a factor for us but casual fans like the lights, music, etc and cutting the arena down improved the atmosphere too. Good fights too and Saunders came out with the title so on the whole a decent night for Fwank, even if he did lose money on the show.

Bloke i know who works for the board said just over 4k tickets last night

[Black Sam Bellamy]

The gulf in quality between broadcasters like Steve Lillis and Barry Jones compared with the likes of Jim Watt and Johnny Nelson was never more evident last night. Racing UK man Alex Steadman is floating beneath the radar a bit on BNation, but is also a very talented broadcaster who knows the sport.

[rhino222]

the absolute ideal end product would be all uk pro boxing on allegedly. all boxing fans would subscribe, all fighters would be well pursed, and all promoters might just talk to each other, and all fighters might just fight each other, on this side of the pond anyway.