BJS is offering cotto a title shot-will he accept?*

[dickbelden]

*

[koolkc107]

That's pretty funny, actually.

It's like the girl at the strip club asking you to buy the two of you a drink so you can "talk".

Just business.

[ikorolev]

Can BJS fight at 155 ? That will determine Cotto's answer.

[koolkc107]

I don't blame Billie Joe for trying to drum up a payday.

If I was him, I'd be calling out the cash cows too.

Look for him to try to have Canelo's name come out his mouth too.

He won't call out lil g tho. Too much risk and no reward.

If he couldn't break 100K buys with Lemieux, no way Saunders thinks he can, even in Britain.

But, with all the names out there that want a piece of Cotto, BJS will be waiting a long time for that call back.

[ikorolev]

He won't call out lil g tho. Too much risk and no reward.

If he couldn't break 100K buys with Lemieux, no way Saunders thinks he can, even in Britain.

You are f4cking obsessed with Golovkin. You can't say crap about him as a boxer, so you keep posting about money repeating your false 97k number. This is a BOXING forum, idiot.

[squiggy]

I don't know what you mean, I think it would be great to stumble across another couple pages of back and forth about "lil g" and whether this poster used to be called brut. Riveting stuff.

[koolkc107]

He won't call out lil g tho. Too much risk and no reward.

If he couldn't break 100K buys with Lemieux, no way Saunders thinks he can, even in Britain.

You are f4cking obsessed with Golovkin. You can't say crap about him as a boxer, so you keep posting about money repeating your false 97k number. This is a BOXING forum, idiot.

Of course I can say things about him as a boxer...like a few of his opponents have shown he is not nearly as effective if you are able to back him up or keep him off balance with a jab.

Which probably explains why, win or lose, they don't want a fight with a guy like Lara til after they've had a money fight.

They will fight a guy with little skill and power or a guy with skill and little power, but never a guy with elite skill and power.

At least not until they've already cashed out.

How's that?

[sucracristo]

Of course I can say things about him as a boxer...like a few of his opponents have shown he is not nearly as effective if you are able to back him up or keep him off balance with a jab.

and how can we make this about floyd v pacquiao?

[tiny_acres]

Of course I can say things about him as a boxer...like a few of his opponents have shown he is not nearly as effective if you are able to back him up or keep him off balance with a jab.

and how can we make this about floyd v pacquiao?

If Pac and Floyd were at GGG's house and no one was there to see it.Would boxrec nuthuggers have a boner?


Does that work for you?I think I covered all basis on that

[sucracristo]

If Pac and Floyd were at GGG's house and no one was there to see it. Would boxrec nuthuggers have a boner?
Does that work for you? I think I covered all basis on that

you didn't accuse anybody of murder, though. fail. you need a little more hate boiling over and
stretch the thread at least 5 pages making crazy comparisons and such.
i didn't know there were actual bases being covered by kooli, btw. it all seems to
come from left field.

i think cotto saunders would be competitive and maybe cotto could wind up with another
middleweight title... ugh...

[CaptainSpacerod]

Ndam or Lemieux would be credible opponents for a first defence

If Jacobs fights gobshite jr then the winner of that could be Bill's next opponent

[tiny_acres]

If Pac and Floyd were at GGG's house and no one was there to see it. Would boxrec nuthuggers have a boner?
Does that work for you? I think I covered all basis on that

you didn't accuse anybody of murder, though. fail. you need a little more hate boiling over and
stretch the thread at least 5 pages making crazy comparisons and such.
i didn't know there were actual bases being covered by kooli, btw. it all seems to
come from left field.

i think cotto saunders would be competitive and maybe cotto could wind up with another
middleweight title... ugh...

It is not a bad match up.I think it is a good going away fight for Cotto.
Make a little change and possibly pick up another belt.
I would actually favor Cotto slightly

[ikorolev]

He won't call out lil g tho. Too much risk and no reward.

If he couldn't break 100K buys with Lemieux, no way Saunders thinks he can, even in Britain.

You are f4cking obsessed with Golovkin. You can't say crap about him as a boxer, so you keep posting about money repeating your false 97k number. This is a BOXING forum, idiot.

Of course I can say things about him as a boxer...like a few of his opponents have shown he is not nearly as effective if you are able to back him up or keep him off balance with a jab.

Which probably explains why, win or lose, they don't want a fight with a guy like Lara til after they've had a money fight.

They will fight a guy with little skill and power or a guy with skill and little power, but never a guy with elite skill and power.

At least not until they've already cashed out.

How's that?

And how many rounds did he allow those few opponents to win ? I bet he lost fewer rounds in his whole career than Mayweather in two Maidana fights.

By the way, Lara's power is no better than Monroe's or Murray's, so he fits as a guy "with skill and little power".

[koolkc107]

Yeah, Lara does actually fit the more skill than power mold. But he is still someone lil g has refused to fight, and for good reason. Erislandy has a way of making folks look bad and lil g won't risk that.

[ikorolev]

Yeah, Lara does actually fit the more skill than power mold. But he is still someone lil g has refused to fight, and for good reason. Erislandy has a way of making folks look bad and lil g won't risk that.

Lara is zero risk for Golovkin. He had to headbutt Vanes and poke Angulo in the eye in order not to lose. He ran the whole fight from Canelo. He is nowhere near Golovkin's level.

What he can make look bad is fights, so HBO wouldn't invest into Golovkin vs Lara.

[davie]

I don't blame Billie Joe for trying to drum up a payday.

If I was him, I'd be calling out the cash cows too.

Look for him to try to have Canelo's name come out his mouth too.

He won't call out lil g tho. Too much risk and no reward.

If he couldn't break 100K buys with Lemieux, no way Saunders thinks he can, even in Britain.

But, with all the names out there that want a piece of Cotto, BJS will be waiting a long time for that call back.

I'm not sure what GGG would do in the US for another unification bout.
But I'm fairly certain a British fighter, in a unification with a top p4p exciting fighter does over 100k buys in the UK.
If Bellew vs Cleverly and a British title heavyweight bout can both break that Mark I'm sure GGG could.

Not to worry though, there's as much chance of BJS taking the GGG fight as there is Cotto or Canelo taking the BJS fight

[caldo2025]

Yeah, Lara does actually fit the more skill than power mold. But he is still someone lil g has refused to fight, and for good reason. Erislandy has a way of making folks look bad and lil g won't risk that.

KC putting his fingers in his ears and holding his breath again hoping that someone finally agrees with this GGG nonsense. When will you finally get it that GGG only wants belts. He's started a nice collection of them that is going to grow substantially in 2016 unless Canelo tucks his junk between his legs and shimmy's away like I think he will. Lara? Is that what you are coming with this time? hilarious.

[SFW]

This Lara delusion has got to stop. It's on the verge of being evaluated by the CDC, it's that dangerous and stupid.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I don't blame Billie Joe for trying to drum up a payday.

If I was him, I'd be calling out the cash cows too.

Look for him to try to have Canelo's name come out his mouth too.

He won't call out lil g tho. Too much risk and no reward.

If he couldn't break 100K buys with Lemieux, no way Saunders thinks he can, even in Britain.

But, with all the names out there that want a piece of Cotto, BJS will be waiting a long time for that call back.

Who can blame him, he probably thinks he can win a fight with Cotto, though surely only at 160. I actually think Cotto would win pretty handily whether they fought at 160 or 155, BJs isn't remotely on the same level skill wise.

I think Cotto could possibly go for it as it's a title shot he can win, though he'd be taking a very small payday comparatively if he came to the UK. Would they try and do this in NY? Cotto has a big following there.

[Counter-puncher]

They will fight a guy with little skill and power or a guy with skill and little power, but never a guy with elite skill and power.

these middleweights with elite skill and power, they sound fascinating, tell me more about them.

i must have missed them, somehow, thought they are apparently waiting out there lined up in a queue. do i take it Golovkin is ducking them all?

that would be a brut-al criticism to make.

[koolkc107]

Yeah, Lara does actually fit the more skill than power mold. But he is still someone lil g has refused to fight, and for good reason. Erislandy has a way of making folks look bad and lil g won't risk that.

KC putting his fingers in his ears and holding his breath again hoping that someone finally agrees with this GGG nonsense. When will you finally get it that GGG only wants belts. He's started a nice collection of them that is going to grow substantially in 2016 unless Canelo tucks his junk between his legs and shimmy's away like I think he will. Lara? Is that what you are coming with this time? hilarious.

His last 12 fights he has won 2 new belts, one of them an interim title.

By way of comparison, Daniel Geale (who lil g has defeated) has won 2 full belts his last 10 fights.

So no, lil g is not only about winning belts.

But again, I am done trying to warn folks. I will meet you all at the "I told you so" should it happen the way I think it will.

[caldo2025]

Yeah, Lara does actually fit the more skill than power mold. But he is still someone lil g has refused to fight, and for good reason. Erislandy has a way of making folks look bad and lil g won't risk that.

KC putting his fingers in his ears and holding his breath again hoping that someone finally agrees with this GGG nonsense. When will you finally get it that GGG only wants belts. He's started a nice collection of them that is going to grow substantially in 2016 unless Canelo tucks his junk between his legs and shimmy's away like I think he will. Lara? Is that what you are coming with this time? hilarious.

His last 12 fights he has won 2 new belts, one of them an interim title.

By way of comparison, Daniel Geale (who lil g has defeated) has won 2 full belts his last 10 fights.

So no, lil g is not only about winning belts.

But again, I am done trying to warn folks. I will meet you all at the "I told you so" should it happen the way I think it will.

You mean the "Yeah But...." Table, KC. No matter what your boy GGG does, you will dip into your little bag of tricks and find a way to diminish GGG's super human efforts inside the squared circle. I'm not a psychologist but I've banged a few of them. And I think that you are currently suffering from a severe case of Floyd-Void. Don't be alarmed, the name seems scarier than the prognosis. It is curable in 50% of the cases. The most effective forms of treatments begin with discarding all of the posters and memorabilia scattered about your bedroom (tattoo removal when applicable). You really need to rid yourself of the constant reminders in order to heal. The next step is to try not to focus on the cowardly way Floyd finished his career. Let go of the dancing he did to avoid contact, the unusual way he chose to hydrate the day before the fight or the need to have Dave Moretti constantly by his side in case a fight got close on the cards. Instead focus on what he COULD HAVE been. Floyd had the ability to be the best fighter ever and really could have been had he chose not to fight like a coward. It's nothing you did. It's not your fault. It's not your fault....repeat after me....it's not your fault.

This will then open you up to appreciate what the current slue of talented fighters coming up are doing and knock down those walls that you have currently have up. GGG is the polar opposite of Floyd and he's everything that Floyd was not and clearly never wanted to be. He's rearranging the record books and so quickly...the ink's not even dry on Floyd's retirement papers and people have already moved on and appreciating GGG's one in a lifetime talent. We all know what's eating at you and it's time you finally admitted it and did something about it. Consider this your intervention. You're amongst friends, KC.

[sucracristo]

he'd be taking a very small payday comparatively if he came to the UK. Would they try and do this in NY? Cotto has a big following there.

in the post fight press conference fw pretty much conceded it would be in the usa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf2D8Cz50_k#t=06m24s

[jamesmcdonnell]

he'd be taking a very small payday comparatively if he came to the UK. Would they try and do this in NY? Cotto has a big following there.

in the post fight press conference fw pretty much conceded it would be in the usa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf2D8Cz50_k#t=06m24s

Well, then it's possible, however, Cotto will want by far the lion share of the purse, but even that being the case, BJs could take home a huge hunk of money if he gets the thin end of the wedge.

Who knows, he might even win it, I'd make Cotto a small favourite at this stage, a bigger favourite at a catchweight. Saunders I don't think hits hard enough to trouble Cotto if he was able to take Canelo's digs for the duration.

[sucracristo]

Saunders I don't think hits hard enough to trouble Cotto if he was able to take Canelo's digs for the duration.

and saunders wouldn't have won the lee decision without the 2 kd's in one round, assuming
he would have fought the same way without them. i don't see anything that leads me to believe
saunders can outbox cotto. i don't think GGG would have stepped aside as canelo's mandatory
just so canelo could take the lee-saunders winner. it wouldn't make any sense and guaranteed
that was part of the deal, and it doesn't look like saunders wants any part of GGG unless he is
overpaid, and even then bjs doesn't seem sure. cotto really looks like saunder's only real shot
as cashing in on that title. there is a significant drop off in pay from cotto, and i'm not even sure
saunders can win a rematch with eubank for a lot less $$, and if saunders loses the title he may
never get a sniff at one again at middle without going straight to GGG. seems like if saunders
got into good shape (especially the diet part) and learned how to drain a little, he could poach a
title at 154 and set up a big unification down there. i would pick saunders over liam smith for
the same title one division down.