Joseph Parker now WBO #3 and ahead of Wlad

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Unbeaten New Zealand heavyweight Joseph Parker has climbed two spots to be the third-ranked challenger in the World Boxing Organisation.

There was a ranking reshuffle following Briton Tyson Fury's defeat of long-time champion Wladimir Klitschko last month, with the Ukranian great now sitting a place below Parker.

The top-ranked challenger to Fury is American Charles Martin, followed by another unbeaten fighter, Briton Anthony Joshua.

Parker, 23, holds the Oriental and African belts in the division, having won all 17 fights of his professional career.

He cruised to a first-round knockout win over Daniel Martz in Hamilton last week and next fights another mid-ranked US opponent, Jason Bergman, in Apia in January.

Parker was ranked just outside the top-10 in two rival organisations last month, the WBC and WBA.

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Just browsing through Parkers resume. His last 5 opponents have rankings of
121
50
139
88
176. for a total of 574 for an average ranking of 114. Duco must be congratulated for the way they have managed to place both Parker and Horn in
their respective world ratings. Horn's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 132. I can see this ending in tears.

Wlad's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 15.
Fury's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 47.
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Axl wrote:Just browsing through Parkers resume. His last 5 opponents have rankings of
121
50
139
88
176. for a total of 574 for an average ranking of 114. Duco must be congratulated for the way they have managed to place both Parker and Horn in
their respective world ratings. Horn's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 132. I can see this ending in tears.

Wlad's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 15.
Fury's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 47.
And no. 2 ranked Charles Martin is getting a title shot with an average of 270 - even Glazkov's is 110.

You can talk numbers and stats, but they don't tell much of the story. Politics obviously plays a huge part, but even though someone is protecting their "0", it doesn't mean that they won't be able to step up when they get their opportunity.
Don't take the alphabet rankings too seriously. Dead men get ranked sometimes...
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lowlefthand wrote:
Axl wrote:Just browsing through Parkers resume. His last 5 opponents have rankings of
121
50
139
88
176. for a total of 574 for an average ranking of 114. Duco must be congratulated for the way they have managed to place both Parker and Horn in
their respective world ratings. Horn's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 132. I can see this ending in tears.

Wlad's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 15.
Fury's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 47.
And no. 2 ranked Charles Martin is getting a title shot with an average of 270 - even Glazkov's is 110.

You can talk numbers and stats, but they don't tell much of the story. Politics obviously plays a huge part, but even though someone is protecting their "0", it doesn't mean that they won't be able to step up when they get their opportunity.
Don't take the alphabet rankings too seriously. Dead men get ranked sometimes...
Geeze I hope they can but we have a history of setting fighters up to be killed.
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Joseph Parker is one of 5 nominations for RING's prospect of the year. Nominees in alphabetical order are as follows >>>

JACK CATTERALL
14-0, 9 KOs

Smooth junior welterweight southpaw from Chorley, England, who works very well behind an educated right jab. Four wins in 2015, three stoppages.

DIEGO DE LA HOYA
13-0, 7 KOs

The cousin of six-weight world champion Oscar De La Hoya had a dominant year in the junior featherweight division and continues to improve. Represents Mexicali, Mexico.

ANTOINE DOUGLAS
19-0-1, 13KOs

Talented middleweight who scored three stoppages in 2015, two of them over previously unbeaten opponents. The 23-year-old fights out of Burke, Virginia.

TAKUMA INOUE
5-0, 1 KO

Younger brother of WBO junior bantamweight champion Naoya Inoue also campaigns at 115 pounds. Last time out, the Japanese star scored an impressive 12-round decision over Mark Anthony Geraldo.

JOSEPH PARKER
19-0, 17 KOs

Hard-hitting New Zealand heavyweight punched his way through five capable opponents, none of whom managed to extend the 23-year-old beyond four rounds.


The winner to be announced during January.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=11568566

"I know a lot of people that watch my fights are frustrated that the fights end quickly but I can promise you this year we're definitely going to step up the opponents and it's going to be a lot more interesting fights. We're getting closer to that goal of being champion of the world and I think this year we can make some big noise around the world."

Parker said things have changed over the last year where the boxing world, including current heavyweight champions Tyson Fury, is starting to pay attention to the 23-year-old from South Auckland.

"A lot of the big boxing writers, the big boxing network channels, they're definitely taking notice of what we're doing. Tyson Fury, the heavyweight boxing champion of the world, messaged us before and after the fight wishing us luck. We're definitely keeping in touch with those big names.

"Before I looked at myself as a sparring partner for these big names but now we're looking at our team as contenders and we can contend for that title."
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lowlefthand wrote:
Axl wrote:Just browsing through Parkers resume. His last 5 opponents have rankings of
121
50
139
88
176. for a total of 574 for an average ranking of 114. Duco must be congratulated for the way they have managed to place both Parker and Horn in
their respective world ratings. Horn's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 132. I can see this ending in tears.

Wlad's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 15.
Fury's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 47.
And no. 2 ranked Charles Martin is getting a title shot with an average of 270 - even Glazkov's is 110.

You can talk numbers and stats, but they don't tell much of the story. Politics obviously plays a huge part, but even though someone is protecting their "0", it doesn't mean that they won't be able to step up when they get their opportunity.
Don't take the alphabet rankings too seriously. Dead men get ranked sometimes...
:TU: :lol:
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Parkers next fight I refuse to pay to watch and I'm a NZer

the guy he is fighting has won decisions over guys who parker would've knocked out in 30 seconds.

I mean seriously this should not be a fight but a sparring session

Why is this non competative fight allowed to be sanctioned?
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Grailer wrote:Parkers next fight I refuse to pay to watch and I'm a NZer

the guy he is fighting has won decisions over guys who parker would've knocked out in 30 seconds.

I mean seriously this should not be a fight but a sparring session

Why is this non competative fight allowed to be sanctioned?
Hopefully the last poor opponent for him before stepping up to bigger and better things later this year / early next.
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Parker now handily rated by all four major bodies >>>

WBO #3

IBF #6

WBC #10

WBA #12

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-spor ... ile-builds?
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[quote="Grailer"]Parkers next fight I refuse to pay to watch and I'm a NZer

the guy he is fighting has won decisions over guys who parker would've knocked out in 30 seconds.

I mean seriously this should not be a fight but a sparring session

Why is this non competative fight allowed to be sanctioned?[/quote.

Mate, haven't you heard, its all politics. Fighting stiffs and getting KOs in 1 or 2 rounds doesn't mean when he gets his shot at a seasoned world title holder he will struggle. He will probably step up his opposition in 2016, I heard Duco were chasing SBW recently so its obvious
that they are preparing him for when the big title shot comes.
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Colonel Bob Sheridan says Parker and Joshua will rule the heavyweight division

Colonel Bob Sheridan, who called two of the biggest fights in the history of boxing in “The Rumble in the Jungle” Muhammad Ali vs. George Foreman in Zaire and “The Thrilla in Manila” Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier” in the Philippines, says the heavyweight division will become attractive again with unbeaten fighters Joseph Parker (17-0, 15 KOs) and Anthony Joshua (15-0, 15 KOs) becoming better known in America.

“Joseph Parker in New Zealand and Anthony Joshua in England can make the heavyweight division attractive again but people in the United States don’t know Joshua except for people inside boxing and they don’t know Parker, but they will in the next year or so and there will be a lot more interest in the heavyweight division when these guys move into high gear. They will rule the heavyweight division.”
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Joseph Parker: "We've set a plan for this year and there is a possibility we could fight for a world championship at the end of the year or if not the beginning of next year. Everything that's happening in the heavyweight division is opening up the doors for us young fighters coming up. I believe I'm a top contender."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=11576084
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Grailer wrote:Parkers next fight I refuse to pay to watch and I'm a NZer

the guy he is fighting has won decisions over guys who parker would've knocked out in 30 seconds.

I mean seriously this should not be a fight but a sparring session

Why is this non competative fight allowed to be sanctioned?
Axl wrote:Mate, haven't you heard, its all politics. Fighting stiffs and getting KOs in 1 or 2 rounds doesn't mean when he gets his shot at a seasoned world title holder he will struggle. He will probably step up his opposition in 2016, I heard Duco were chasing SBW recently so its obvious
that they are preparing him for when the big title shot comes.
I'm pretty much continuing on from what Axl is saying.

They're just nurturing Parkers rise up the ladder. It's nothing new when you have a promising talent climb up the ranks. Grailer like you, I too would like to see him step RIGHT up. I would like to see him fight the new IBF heavyweight champion of the WOORRLD (sorry I don't know his name because nobody knows his name) that Parker has described earlier as "nothing special". However it's Team Parker that stands to lose it all so they have to be meticulous in who they fight.The higher caliber fighters will come, you and me will just have to wait.

2016 is going to be a great year for the Heavyweight division. We got Klitschko/Fury 2 which should be BORING as hell but hey it's all about Klitschko and how he comes back. Fury going over to New York to publicly trash talk Wilder after his win could secure him a fight with Wilder so he's got somethin to fall back on just in case he loses to Klitschko, that's my speculation based on why the hell Fury would bother with Wilder when he knows Klitschko is next. We got the rise of Anthony Joshua, Parker and the return of Haye and Ike Ibeabuchi. Parker will step up this year but first things first and that's Bergman the southpaw.

I'm a kiwi too and I remembered a time when the NZ public weren't happy with David Tuas opponents. Kevin Barry would be on the TV defending Tuas opponents whom he just knocked out. Lot of people were calling Tuas victims b grade, bums, nobody's etc. Those "bums" names were Hasim Rahman, John Ruiz, Oleg Maskev just to name a few. To be fair to the NZ public, how were they suppose to know guys like Rahman was decent to say the least when they hadn't seen him before? Well Barry did say so.

I'll be watching Parkers fight because he's very entertaining. I'm a huge Parker fan. Will he be the champ? I don't know, somethings missing about him on the defensive side. Let's not forget Bergman can put Parker to sleep, highly doubtful but a possibility.
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Everything seems to be pointing to Parker finding himself the mandatory for one title or another within the next 12 months. In order to prepare for that he needs a much more meaningful fight next up after he is done in Samoa.
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Parker is Tye Fields 2.
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Axl wrote:Just browsing through Parkers resume. His last 5 opponents have rankings of
121
50
139
88
176. for a total of 574 for an average ranking of 114. Duco must be congratulated for the way they have managed to place both Parker and Horn in
their respective world ratings. Horn's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 132. I can see this ending in tears.

Wlad's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 15.
Fury's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 47.
Wlad's and Fury's average opponent rankings look a bit high - is that their CURRENT ranking or their ranking when they fought Wlad/Fury?
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Solomon Haumono continues to taunt New Zealand heavyweight boxer Joseph Parker
Australian heavyweight Solomon Haumono continues to taunt Joseph Parker, eager to take on New Zealand's rising boxing star.
Both have assignments on their hands – Parker fights American Jason bergman in Samoa on Saturday while Haumono takes on undefeated Pole Marcin Siwy in Sydney on February 6 – but Haumono is desperate to fight the Kiwi.
Read the rest on the link.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-spor ... eph-parker
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johnswan1 wrote:Parker is Tye Fields 2.
You're really not a fan of Parker, are you? I get some of the criticism but you seem oddly bitter.

Aside from not being a slow, clumsy, notoriously chinny giant, Parker has fought much better opposition than Fields had at a similar stage (and Parker is just 23 FFS), he hasn't been knocked out in a minute by someone like the now 4-8 Jeff Ford, and he has much more amateur experience; he's not a fighter who decided to try some boxing after playing basketball in college. I think Parker is significantly better than Fields, has much more potential than Fields did, and will go on to bigger things, and it's hard for me to see how someone who is being reasonable about the matter could think otherwise.
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convict wrote:Solomon Haumono continues to taunt New Zealand heavyweight boxer Joseph Parker
Australian heavyweight Solomon Haumono continues to taunt Joseph Parker, eager to take on New Zealand's rising boxing star.
Both have assignments on their hands – Parker fights American Jason bergman in Samoa on Saturday while Haumono takes on undefeated Pole Marcin Siwy in Sydney on February 6 – but Haumono is desperate to fight the Kiwi.
Read the rest on the link.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-spor ... eph-parker
Sorry Sol that ship sailed long ago...
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Parker is definitely not as skilled boxing wise as some of the others ranked above him. He missed quite a few big shots against a durable Bergman. A great experience for Parker and he'll learn a lot about himself after viewing the video. Parker is definitely the fastest puncher of the world elite heavyweights.
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Gnome wrote:
Axl wrote:Just browsing through Parkers resume. His last 5 opponents have rankings of
121
50
139
88
176. for a total of 574 for an average ranking of 114. Duco must be congratulated for the way they have managed to place both Parker and Horn in
their respective world ratings. Horn's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 132. I can see this ending in tears.

Wlad's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 15.
Fury's last 5 opponents have an average ranking of 47.
Wlad's and Fury's average opponent rankings look a bit high - is that their CURRENT ranking or their ranking when they fought Wlad/Fury?
Current rankings, same as Parkers opponents.
I am not aboard the Duco train yet. It's time to step it up. Talking about World titles when your resume does not include any one ranked in the top 50 is a bit extreme for me. I think Bergman showed a few flaws in Parkers defence, which he gets away with while fighting that standard of fighter. Surley someone in the top 30 must be the next step.
The same with Horn. Bailey will test his chin, even at 41 and at the end of his 20 year career Bailey still has enough to test Horn imo.
Someone in the top 30 would have been nice but thats not going to happen for a while imo.
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Can't see why they would put the pressure on him . talk of world titles is bullshit , On his performance against Bergman , fury , Klitchko , Haye , Joshua , Wilder , would destroy him ,, christ he hit Bergman has easy has a heavy bag , and still took 4 rnds too long to put him away
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Axl wrote: I think Bergman showed a few flaws in Parkers defence, which he gets away with while fighting that standard of...
Yeah I spotted that awhile back. There's just something missing but that's something only trainers can pick out. He should be thankful he has a solid chin. While Bergman tagged him a few times, he didn't wobble like I've seen both Joshua and Wilder have in the past.
coneye wrote:Can't see why they would put the pressure on him . talk of world titles is bullshit , On his performance against Bergman , fury , Klitchko , Haye , Joshua , Wilder , would destroy him
You need to learn about boxing mate as your comment above suggests. He is chasing a world title and there's no pressure on Parker at all, in fact I hear he's taking a break for a bit as he's been fighting back to back for awhile now. Joe is the youngest of the fighters you've mentioned so just like the others HAVE DONE, he's STILL finding himself and given his current displays it's very promising.

Bergman came out to upset Parker but in the 1st round, as soon as he felt Josephs power, he decided that he wasn't going to lose by KO and just survive was the new gameplan. Rounds went on because Bergman wasn't fighting leaving Joe with no counterpunch opportunity, nothing to hit but guard.

None of those guys would "destroy" him. Words like that is that of a hater/jealous.. no I definitely think Parker can box with these guys. Parker can trouble them with his speed. Let's be realistic, Parker is for now a contender.
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foxdog1923 wrote:
Axl wrote: I think Bergman showed a few flaws in Parkers defence, which he gets away with while fighting that standard of...
Yeah I spotted that awhile back. There's just something missing but that's something only trainers can pick out. He should be thankful he has a solid chin. While Bergman tagged him a few times, he didn't wobble like I've seen both Joshua and Wilder have in the past.
coneye wrote:Can't see why they would put the pressure on him . talk of world titles is bullshit , On his performance against Bergman , fury , Klitchko , Haye , Joshua , Wilder , would destroy him
You need to learn about boxing mate as your comment above suggests. He is chasing a world title and there's no pressure on Parker at all, in fact I hear he's taking a break for a bit as he's been fighting back to back for awhile now. Joe is the youngest of the fighters you've mentioned so just like the others HAVE DONE, he's STILL finding himself and given his current displays it's very promising.

Bergman came out to upset Parker but in the 1st round, as soon as he felt Josephs power, he decided that he wasn't going to lose by KO and just survive was the new gameplan. Rounds went on because Bergman wasn't fighting leaving Joe with no counterpunch opportunity, nothing to hit but guard.

None of those guys would "destroy" him. Words like that is that of a hater/jealous.. no I definitely think Parker can box with these guys. Parker can trouble them with his speed. Let's be realistic, Parker is for now a contender.
I do know my boxing mate , and i know he may be work in progress , but theres still a lot of work to do , and he needs to get on with learning his trade WITHOUT the pressure of being touted has the next world champ ,, At this stage he's not any where near the level of the others i mentioned , can he get there ,, maybee , maybee not , but until he can put away guys like Bergman a lot easier than he did , then talking world titles at this time is silly . Bergman is a journey man brought in from the states where it has snow on the ground , then fighting in a hot stadium in 100 degrees and 90% humidity , he was stuffed , your correct he went into survive mode , and refused to fight just survive ... But the point is Joseph hit him at will to the body and head , and still found it hard to put him away ,,,

Actually i think the ref should off stopped it Bergman took unesecary punishmet in a fight he could'nt win .. Point being though you have to take off your rose colured glasses , look at the likes of Tyson , Joshua , Haye , and relize Parker is probably a good few years of these guys .. take him to Europe now and he just becomes another in a long line of Aussie , / kiwi fighters found wanting , when they step up ,, I would put him in the same level / bracket has Hughie Fury ,, not there yet might make it ,, but young enough to hang around for a couple of years to get better and let the rest get older . ,, If he's taking a break for me thats a good thing .
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