Lennox to make a comeback?

[ALI]

I stumbled across this quote on Tomasz Adamek's website (light heavy WBC champion)

"Tomorrow after morning training Tomasz ate his breakfast with Lennox Lewis. Former heavyweight champion told he will return on ring at July. Both champions spoke about their common trainings some years ago in England."

http://www.tomaszadamek.com/english/index.html


The English translation on this site does leave alot to the imagination, however, the above clearly states Adamek claiming that Lewis told him he's going to stage a comeback this summer. It never really entered my thoughts that Lewis would come back, but thinking about it now, why the hell not? Even a badly faded Lewis would clean up whats out there now, and with little trouble.

Has anyone else heard/read anything about LL possibly returning to the ring. Is there any weight behind this quote from Ademeks site, or is it just alot of sh*te???

P.S. for what its worth, i think LL should stay retired.


Regards
ALI

[states]

He's not coming back. He was quoted on fightnews(?) the other day saying he didn't need it.

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I sincerely hope that he doesn't come back.

What would be the point anyway?

Even at almost 41, he could probably beat the current crop of wasters in the division, so it wouldn't mean a thing anyway.

[jamesmcdonnell]

At 41 there is no certainty that Lewis could clean the division up. He took several rounds to find his range against Vitali, with another 2-3 years out of the ring, it could mean he cannot find his timing again.

Hopefully we won't find out, I don't see him coming back now.

[nickd]

At 41 there is no certainty that Lewis could clean the division up. He took several rounds to find his range against Vitali, with another 2-3 years out of the ring, it could mean he cannot find his timing again.

Hopefully we won't find out, I don't see him coming back now.

Having said that he was not in 100% condition against Vitali, he'd obviously taken Johnson lightly and not got himself in tip top shape.

[jamesmcdonnell]

and he would probably make the same mistake if he were taking on the likes of Valuev. Lennox has always been prone to gaining weight between fight as his career wore on, and I'm sure he's been tucking into a mutton patty or 50 since retirement, not to mention lashings of Wray and Nephew's.

Lennox has earnt his retirement and is enjoying it, he won't be back thank god.

[nickd]

and he would probably make the same mistake if he were taking on the likes of Valuev. Lennox has always been prone to gaining weight between fight as his career wore on, and I'm sure he's been tucking into a mutton patty or 50 since retirement, not to mention lashings of Wray and Nephew's.

Lennox has earnt his retirement and is enjoying it, he won't be back thank god.

He looks in pretty good shape though, saw some pics of him from this week at the WBC thing (here or current scene).

[Foggy]

I've always appreciated Lennox for the boxer that he was & the man that he presented himself to be.

If Lennox did make a come back i would lose that respect i had for him, simply because i thought Lennox was a man of his word.

So listen Lennox don't do it

[nickd]

I really don't think he will, other than almost coming back for the Klitschko fight a while back he has shown no inclination to do so. Who is here thats worth him coming back to fight anyway? With Klitschko gone any incentive he had to return (however small an incentive it may have been) is now gone!

[lirva33]

lewis ran from the sport rather than face vitali.

[nickd]

So by the same definition Vitali ran from the sport rather than face Rahman?

[lirva33]

So by the same definition Vitali ran from the sport rather than face Rahman?

nickd, get off my ass.

Rahman is a perennial loser. his performances again barrett/ruiz/maskaev etc would not exactly strike fear into vitali.

vitali pummelled lewis and lewis got lucky with a cuts win and then wimped out od the rematch after promising one, leaving a very bad taste in the mouth

[Loynesy]

lewis ran from the sport rather than face vitali.

Lirva ran from the BoxRec board rather than face his wager with DCIAC

[BubiScholz]

Congratulations for the 1000th "Lewis comeback" thread!!!!!!!

[nickd]

lewis ran from the sport rather than face vitali.

Lirva ran from the BoxRec board rather than face his wager with DCIAC

The word 'spineless' springs to mind!

[jamesmcdonnell]

So by the same definition Vitali ran from the sport rather than face Rahman?

nickd, get off my ass.

Rahman is a perennial loser. his performances again barrett/ruiz/maskaev etc would not exactly strike fear into vitali.

vitali pummelled lewis and lewis got lucky with a cuts win and then wimped out od the rematch after promising one, leaving a very bad taste in the mouth

Not as bad a taste as your pathetic cowardice did when you wimped out of your bet.....now to pull apart your frankly ridiculous statement you pussy.

Vitali whined and cried like a bitch about losing on cuts, trying to make out he had been robbed, despite the fact the left side of his face was hanging off and he was getting clobbered in the last 2 rounds of the fight. Sure, Vitali did better than expected, because Lewis was ring rusty and took about 2 rounds to get his jab working.

I've watched the fight about 10 times on tape now, and once you get over the shock of seeing Lewis look so sloppy in the first 2 1/2 rounds it's clear that Vitali wasn't at all dominating the fight after the 3rd. Once Lewis started ramming home his jab, Vitali was on the back foot and started getting clouted with some almighty shots.

Vitali acted like a wanker after losing to Lewis, trying to put him on the spot and demand a rematch.

Lewis had EARNED the right to finish his career as he chose, and he chose to retire after giving it some serious thought, that's his right. He had already established himself as a dominant chap

Vitali on the other hand faced nothing but pathetic scraps in his reign as 'champ.' He won the right to call himself champion by beating whale-boy Kirk Johnson, and then defended against vastly overrated 'Colonel' Sanders who had more breasts than a bargain bucket. Then he took target practice on human punching bag Williams, who fought with all the guile and poise of a Wildebeest on roller skates.

Throughout his tenuous reign as 'champ' Vitali spent more time whinging about Lewis not coming out of retirement to face him than looking for serious challenges to cement his own legacy, then had a massive hissy fit and huffed off into retirement when Rahman was awarded the belt after Vitali kept injuring himself.

Vitali will be remembered as nothing more than a minor footnote in boxing history a guy whose best performance was losing on cuts to an ageing, out of shape and undermotivated Lennox Lewis, who took him on at a few weeks notice instead of a much easier opponent in Kirk Johnson. How many other fighters would have given Vitali a shot under those circumstances?

Tell me Lirva, who the fornicate did Vitali ever beat to earn the right to call himself the main man in the division.

[nickd]

Lewis is an alltime great, Vitali is a 'never was'.

[Slapsie Maxie]

So by the same definition Vitali ran from the sport rather than face Rahman?

nickd, get off my ass.

Rahman is a perennial loser. his performances again barrett/ruiz/maskaev etc would not exactly strike fear into vitali.

vitali pummelled lewis and lewis got lucky with a cuts win and then wimped out od the rematch after promising one, leaving a very bad taste in the mouth

Not as bad a taste as your pathetic cowardice did when you wimped out of your bet.....now to pull apart your frankly ridiculous statement you pussy.

Vitali whined and cried like a bitch about losing on cuts, trying to make out he had been robbed, despite the fact the left side of his face was hanging off and he was getting clobbered in the last 2 rounds of the fight. Sure, Vitali did better than expected, because Lewis was ring rusty and took about 2 rounds to get his jab working.

I've watched the fight about 10 times on tape now, and once you get over the shock of seeing Lewis look so sloppy in the first 2 1/2 rounds it's clear that Vitali wasn't at all dominating the fight after the 3rd. Once Lewis started ramming home his jab, Vitali was on the back foot and started getting clouted with some almighty shots.

Vitali acted like a wanker after losing to Lewis, trying to put him on the spot and demand a rematch.

Lewis had EARNED the right to finish his career as he chose, and he chose to retire after giving it some serious thought, that's his right. He had already established himself as a dominant chap

Vitali on the other hand faced nothing but pathetic scraps in his reign as 'champ.' He won the right to call himself champion by beating whale-boy Kirk Johnson, and then defended against vastly overrated 'Colonel' Sanders who had more breasts than a bargain bucket. Then he took target practice on human punching bag Williams, who fought with all the guile and poise of a Wildebeest on roller skates.

Throughout his tenuous reign as 'champ' Vitali spent more time whinging about Lewis not coming out of retirement to face him than looking for serious challenges to cement his own legacy, then had a massive hissy fit and huffed off into retirement when Rahman was awarded the belt after Vitali kept injuring himself.

Vitali will be remembered as nothing more than a minor footnote in boxing history a guy whose best performance was losing on cuts to an ageing, out of shape and undermotivated Lennox Lewis, who took him on at a few weeks notice instead of a much easier opponent in Kirk Johnson. How many other fighters would have given Vitali a shot under those circumstances?

Tell me Lirva, who the smeg did Vitali ever beat to earn the right to call himself the main man in the division.

Could not have put it better myself

Slapsie

[jamesmcdonnell]

Hithankyew...

[lirva33]

So by the same definition Vitali ran from the sport rather than face Rahman?

nickd, get off my ass.

Rahman is a perennial loser. his performances again barrett/ruiz/maskaev etc would not exactly strike fear into vitali.

vitali pummelled lewis and lewis got lucky with a cuts win and then wimped out od the rematch after promising one, leaving a very bad taste in the mouth

Not as bad a taste as your pathetic cowardice did when you wimped out of your bet.....now to pull apart your frankly ridiculous statement you pussy.

Vitali whined and cried like a bitch about losing on cuts, trying to make out he had been robbed, despite the fact the left side of his face was hanging off and he was getting clobbered in the last 2 rounds of the fight. Sure, Vitali did better than expected, because Lewis was ring rusty and took about 2 rounds to get his jab working.

I've watched the fight about 10 times on tape now, and once you get over the shock of seeing Lewis look so sloppy in the first 2 1/2 rounds it's clear that Vitali wasn't at all dominating the fight after the 3rd. Once Lewis started ramming home his jab, Vitali was on the back foot and started getting clouted with some almighty shots.

Vitali acted like a wanker after losing to Lewis, trying to put him on the spot and demand a rematch.

Lewis had EARNED the right to finish his career as he chose, and he chose to retire after giving it some serious thought, that's his right. He had already established himself as a dominant chap

Vitali on the other hand faced nothing but pathetic scraps in his reign as 'champ.' He won the right to call himself champion by beating whale-boy Kirk Johnson, and then defended against vastly overrated 'Colonel' Sanders who had more breasts than a bargain bucket. Then he took target practice on human punching bag Williams, who fought with all the guile and poise of a Wildebeest on roller skates.

Throughout his tenuous reign as 'champ' Vitali spent more time whinging about Lewis not coming out of retirement to face him than looking for serious challenges to cement his own legacy, then had a massive hissy fit and huffed off into retirement when Rahman was awarded the belt after Vitali kept injuring himself.

Vitali will be remembered as nothing more than a minor footnote in boxing history a guy whose best performance was losing on cuts to an ageing, out of shape and undermotivated Lennox Lewis, who took him on at a few weeks notice instead of a much easier opponent in Kirk Johnson. How many other fighters would have given Vitali a shot under those circumstances?

Tell me Lirva, who the smeg did Vitali ever beat to earn the right to call himself the main man in the division.

This is 90% irrelevant to the point I was making.

Which is, Lewis ran from the sport rather than face Vitali. Which is 100% true. "Lewis was beating Vitali etc" What was your scorecard? Because everyone I know had Vitali winning 4-2. He hurt Lewis numerous times and it was simply the luck of the draw that he got cut by a lucky jab and lewis didn't. Then lewis promises a rematch and waits over a year before finally retiring and allowing the division to move on. He held the belts hostage while he took the easy way out.

Vitali gave him a beating in most rounds. Hitting him repeatedly. Lewis was being worn down, he fell on his stool at the end of the 6th. The shots were taking effect, as they do with Vitali opponents.

The fact is, Lewis was in a topsy turvy battle that A LOT of people thought he was lucky to win. The record books will say it was a cuts win for lewis, but the tape of the fight will elave a bad taste in the mouth and will always say that Vitali was very unlucky.

If lewis got the cuts and Vitali refused to fight him, it would be a different kettle of fish on this board.

Jamesmcdonnell "Vitali should fight lewis again because that fight left a bad taste in the mouth"

So really, this is a british board and people are biased. I remember reading tumultuous postss about williams beating klitschko. I replied "Klitschko KO1" and was laughed off the board by YOU and others.

Were you laughing after 30 seconds of the fight james?

[J]

so what if vitali was ahead ont he cards after 6 rounds?

vitali wasnt in a fit state to coninue and the cut was caused by a punch = lewis victory end of debate.

yuo can wax lyrical about this til you are blue in the face the only hard eveidence we have is the big L in K's resume.


As for being baised that a bit rich from witter's number fan?

and if you are proud of being 8 rounds out of a prediction then well , i dunno congrats i guess.

perhaps you should have wagered some mopney so you can pay off your bets.

[nickd]

nickd, get off my ass.

Rahman is a perennial loser. his performances again barrett/ruiz/maskaev etc would not exactly strike fear into vitali.

vitali pummelled lewis and lewis got lucky with a cuts win and then wimped out od the rematch after promising one, leaving a very bad taste in the mouth

Not as bad a taste as your pathetic cowardice did when you wimped out of your bet.....now to pull apart your frankly ridiculous statement you pussy.

Vitali whined and cried like a bitch about losing on cuts, trying to make out he had been robbed, despite the fact the left side of his face was hanging off and he was getting clobbered in the last 2 rounds of the fight. Sure, Vitali did better than expected, because Lewis was ring rusty and took about 2 rounds to get his jab working.

I've watched the fight about 10 times on tape now, and once you get over the shock of seeing Lewis look so sloppy in the first 2 1/2 rounds it's clear that Vitali wasn't at all dominating the fight after the 3rd. Once Lewis started ramming home his jab, Vitali was on the back foot and started getting clouted with some almighty shots.

Vitali acted like a wanker after losing to Lewis, trying to put him on the spot and demand a rematch.

Lewis had EARNED the right to finish his career as he chose, and he chose to retire after giving it some serious thought, that's his right. He had already established himself as a dominant chap

Vitali on the other hand faced nothing but pathetic scraps in his reign as 'champ.' He won the right to call himself champion by beating whale-boy Kirk Johnson, and then defended against vastly overrated 'Colonel' Sanders who had more breasts than a bargain bucket. Then he took target practice on human punching bag Williams, who fought with all the guile and poise of a Wildebeest on roller skates.

Throughout his tenuous reign as 'champ' Vitali spent more time whinging about Lewis not coming out of retirement to face him than looking for serious challenges to cement his own legacy, then had a massive hissy fit and huffed off into retirement when Rahman was awarded the belt after Vitali kept injuring himself.

Vitali will be remembered as nothing more than a minor footnote in boxing history a guy whose best performance was losing on cuts to an ageing, out of shape and undermotivated Lennox Lewis, who took him on at a few weeks notice instead of a much easier opponent in Kirk Johnson. How many other fighters would have given Vitali a shot under those circumstances?

Tell me Lirva, who the smeg did Vitali ever beat to earn the right to call himself the main man in the division.

This is 90% irrelevant to the point I was making.

Which is, Lewis ran from the sport rather than face Vitali. Which is 100% true. "Lewis was beating Vitali etc" What was your scorecard? Because everyone I know had Vitali winning 4-2. He hurt Lewis numerous times and it was simply the luck of the draw that he got cut by a lucky jab and lewis didn't. Then lewis promises a rematch and waits over a year before finally retiring and allowing the division to move on. He held the belts hostage while he took the easy way out.

Vitali gave him a beating in most rounds. Hitting him repeatedly. Lewis was being worn down, he fell on his stool at the end of the 6th. The shots were taking effect, as they do with Vitali opponents.

The fact is, Lewis was in a topsy turvy battle that A LOT of people thought he was lucky to win. The record books will say it was a cuts win for lewis, but the tape of the fight will elave a bad taste in the mouth and will always say that Vitali was very unlucky.

If lewis got the cuts and Vitali refused to fight him, it would be a different kettle of fish on this board.

Jamesmcdonnell "Vitali should fight lewis again because that fight left a bad taste in the mouth"

So really, this is a british board and people are biased. I remember reading tumultuous postss about williams beating klitschko. I replied "Klitschko KO1" and was laughed off the board by YOU and others.

Were you laughing after 30 seconds of the fight james?

And as I said in that case Vitali ran from the sport rather than face Rahman.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Utter bollocks.


What has being wrong about Williams got to do with it? Lennox Lewis and Williams are hardly comparable talents. I also thought that Williams would fight a more intelligent fight than he did rather than standing there absobing everything that Vitali threw at him like some sort of violent weeble. Fine, I was wrong, it doesn't bother me.

Vitali is a better fighter than Williams, but he is insignificant as a heavyweight champion, christ, fat man Sanders had him backpedalling like a unicylist on a cliff edge.

You are the one with the agenda mate, not me, you take every opportunity to come on here and try and stir shit up. I don't know why you bother coming on the british section, you're cock eyed view of the world isn't really appreciated, and you are considered a running joke by most of us here.

Facts are facts, Lewis cut vitali to shreds, which is a totally legitimate form of stoppage, whether that displeases you is neither here nor there. Vitali lost fair and square, and Lewis retired BECAUSE HE WAS 39 fornicating YEARS OLD.

Do you understand the concept of ageing? In case you don't let me put it in a nutshell for you. 39 year old fighters tend not to be as good as they were a few years ago, and often get beaten by men they would have handled with ease in their primes. This is why many fighters employ what is known as RETIREMENT, a perfectly legal entitlement whereby they voluntarily end their careers rather than fight on way past their peaks and sustain senseless neurological damage.

Perhaps you were managing Vitali at the time and guiding his career, perhaps this would explain him yabbering on like a bitter old crone endlessly about how Lewis had to face him and how he was a coward for not coming out of his well earned retirement.

Fact is, Lewis was a better champion than Vitali, and beat him when they fought, end of.

It's obvious you have some sort of anti-lewis agenda, perhaps you're struggling with you fear and inferiority complex with regard to the more cultured, sophisticated and articulate english, or perhaps you made a bet with someone that Lewis would get battered by Tyson and then didn't pay up and were then considered a laughing stock by your peers, though of course you wouldn't do such a thing.

If you dislike british fighters so much, why don't you just piss off back to the morons forum where you can have fun conversing with your fellow retards?

[Lenny]

I have jamesmcdonnell 2 rounds up now on my scorecard Livra33 you nobhead

[lirva33]

Utter bollocks.


What has being wrong about Williams got to do with it? Lennox Lewis and Williams are hardly comparable talents. I also thought that Williams would fight a more intelligent fight than he did rather than standing there absobing everything that Vitali threw at him like some sort of violent weeble. Fine, I was wrong, it doesn't bother me.

Vitali is a better fighter than Williams, but he is insignificant as a heavyweight champion, christ, fat man Sanders had him backpedalling like a unicylist on a cliff edge.

You are the one with the agenda mate, not me, you take every opportunity to come on here and try and stir shit up. I don't know why you bother coming on the british section, you're cock eyed view of the world isn't really appreciated, and you are considered a running joke by most of us here.

Facts are facts, Lewis cut vitali to shreds, which is a totally legitimate form of stoppage, whether that displeases you is neither here nor there. Vitali lost fair and square, and Lewis retired BECAUSE HE WAS 39 fornicating YEARS OLD.

Do you understand the concept of ageing? In case you don't let me put it in a nutshell for you. 39 year old fighters tend not to be as good as they were a few years ago, and often get beaten by men they would have handled with ease in their primes. This is why many fighters employ what is known as RETIREMENT, a perfectly legal entitlement whereby they voluntarily end their careers rather than fight on way past their peaks and sustain senseless neurological damage.

Perhaps you were managing Vitali at the time and guiding his career, perhaps this would explain him yabbering on like a bitter old crone endlessly about how Lewis had to face him and how he was a coward for not coming out of his well earned retirement.

Fact is, Lewis was a better champion than Vitali, and beat him when they fought, end of.

It's obvious you have some sort of anti-lewis agenda, perhaps you're struggling with you fear and inferiority complex with regard to the more cultured, sophisticated and articulate english, or perhaps you made a bet with someone that Lewis would get battered by Tyson and then didn't pay up and were then considered a laughing stock by your peers, though of course you wouldn't do such a thing.

If you dislike british fighters so much, why don't you just piss off back to the morons forum where you can have fun conversing with your fellow retards?

Clearly you can't argue coherently.

The FACTS of the matter are this.

Vitali was ahead on the scorecards
Vitali hurt Lewis numerous times
Vitali was cut by a lucky jab
Lewis ran from the sport rather than face Vitali
Lewis promised a rematch and then held the division hostage for 1.5 years.

These are "facts".

Vitali gave Lewis one of the toughest fights he has ever had and I believe (along with MANY others) that he would have BEATEN Lewis and that Lewis was LUCKY to get that victory.

The whole fight left a bad taste in the mouth. A promised rematch would have ended the debate but forever people are going to wonder if Vitali had Lewis number. As I said (a point you skipped over), if it was the other way around, people on this forum woiuld be all over Vitali "Why didn't he give Lewis a rematch!!" etc.

Lewis knew that he would have a hard time against Vitali and knew he would probably los the fight. Especially after Vitali killed Johnson. So he ran rather than face him. Plain and simple. He was thinking about fighting Vitali (hence holding the bests hostage for years) but after Vitali vs Johnson, he promptly retired.

HE DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT THAT MAN AGAIN.

I wonder why?