British Top 30 P4P January 2016

[Horse]

1. (1.) Tyson Fury
2. (2.) James DeGale
3. (3.) Kell Brook
4. (4.) Carl Frampton
5. (5.) Amir Khan
6. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (7.) Scott Quigg
8. (8.) Lee Selby
9. (9.) Martin Murray
10. (17.) Billy Joe Saunders

11. (11.) Ola Afolabi
12. (16.) Tony Bellew
13. (12.) George Groves
14. (13.) Lee Haskins
15. (14.) Terry Flanagan
16. (10.) Andy Lee (Irish)
17. (15.) Ricky Burns
18. (18.) Anthony Crolla
19. (19.) Ovill McKenzie
20. (20.) Callum Smith

21. (21.) Nathan Cleverly
22. (30.) Chris Eubank Jr.
23. (RE.) Anthony Joshua
24. (22.) Liam Smith
25. (29.) Paul Butler
26. (RE.) Enzo Maccarinelli
27. (23.) Gavin McDonnell
28. (24.) Ryan Farrag
29. (25.) Sam Eggington
30. (26.) Liam Walsh

Out - (27.) Dereck Chisora
Out - (28.) Stuart Hall

[Horse]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[davie]

I've made it my new years resolution to get in less pointless arguments

fornicating great list Horse!

Delighted to see Hall drop out.

[Horse]

I've made it my new years resolution to get in less pointless arguments

Are you sure about that resolution? Maybe you should argue more.

effing great list Horse!

Delighted to see Hall drop out.

It's time that he dropped out.

He's meant to be in an IBF eliminator early this year, but it isn't on the schedule yet.

[davie]

I've made it my new years resolution to get in less pointless arguments

Are you sure about that resolution? Maybe you should argue more.

effing great list Horse!

Delighted to see Hall drop out.

It's time that he dropped out.

He's meant to be in an IBF eliminator early this year, but it isn't on the schedule yet.

Really? I don't think you've posted a list in 2015 without at least one criticism from me.

When Hall loses that eliminator I'll look forward to him not re-entering

[Boxerbeetle]

Bellew seems too high to me.

[davie]

Bellew seems too high to me.

Bellew always seems too high for me.

[Manchester Massive]

Can't justify Bellew being above Crolla, Flanagan and Haskins

[Switch hitter]

Murray too high

[reggaereggae]

One thing this list shows is British boxing is pretty deep and very healthy. I seem to remember at times we only had a few genuine world class fighters

[davie]

One thing this list shows is British boxing is pretty deep and very healthy. I seem to remember at times we only had a few genuine world class fighters

You're not the first to mention that on Horses monthly list.
As such it's getting harder and harder to rank 30 fighters.

The biggest issue is how highly do you rate title holders vs someone like Khan, Murray, Afolabi or Groves

[reggaereggae]

One thing this list shows is British boxing is pretty deep and very healthy. I seem to remember at times we only had a few genuine world class fighters

You're not the first to mention that on Horses monthly list.
As such it's getting harder and harder to rank 30 fighters.

The biggest issue is how highly do you rate title holders vs someone like Khan, Murray, Afolabi or Groves

Oh it's tough no doubt. But we have a large number of world class fighters. P4P rankings are very difficult and subjective. But I totally agree with Tyson at number 1. This man dominated a champion for almost 10 years in a big upset. In the premier division. And unexpectedly. Tyson Fury

[ThereByTheGrace]

Not in a million years is mcdonell higher than Selby. Selby should be top 5.

[Horse]

Really? I don't think you've posted a list in 2015 without at least one criticism from me.

Nothing wrong with that.

When Hall loses that eliminator I'll look forward to him not re-entering

Not a Hall fan then?

[Horse]

Bellew seems too high to me.

Masternak was a good win.

Bellew being above several world champions does seem a bit strange, but he does have a deeper record than most on the list and he is on good form.

[Stuarty]

Good list as always Horse. Khan is far too high for me. He's stagnated a bit waiting about IMO. BJS should be a bit higher up.

[davie]

Really? I don't think you've posted a list in 2015 without at least one criticism from me.

Nothing wrong with that.

When Hall loses that eliminator I'll look forward to him not re-entering

Not a Hall fan then?

Let's just say, if Hall read everything I'd said about his boxing career, he'd likely smack me in the mouth.

Reckon I'd win UD12 though

[jaymitch81]

McDonnell should be above Khan and Frampton imo.

Murray and Afolabi also too high up.

[rd350lc]

yep , BJS should be above Murray .

[digzee]

Flanagan ahead of Haskins, Groves, Bellew and Afolabi for me at least, I would have him in the top 10 too but I admit i'm a bit biased as I am a big fan.

[Horse]

Can't justify Bellew being above Crolla, Flanagan and Haskins

I rate him more than most.

[Horse]

Murray too high

He was unlucky not to get the decision against Abraham.

How many would think that he was ranked too high if he had been given the official verdicts against Sturm, Martinez and Abraham?

[Horse]

One thing this list shows is British boxing is pretty deep and very healthy. I seem to remember at times we only had a few genuine world class fighters

You're not the first to mention that on Horses monthly list.
As such it's getting harder and harder to rank 30 fighters.

The biggest issue is how highly do you rate title holders vs someone like Khan, Murray, Afolabi or Groves

Yes, British boxing is in a very healthy state at the moment.

For me, to a large extent, the titles should be ignored.

[davie]

Can't justify Bellew being above Crolla, Flanagan and Haskins

I rate him more than most.

I know you've just said you largely igone the titles. But many people here and abroad think Flannigan is the best lightweight on the planet.
As for Crolla, I had him outside of world class.
But I put that down to me not knowing what I was talking about.
The 2 performances against Perez and the eventual stoppage win surely count for something at world level. Even though I didn't rate him he has to get more credit than 18th place for those results

[Horse]

Oh it's tough no doubt. But we have a large number of world class fighters. P4P rankings are very difficult and subjective. But I totally agree with Tyson at number 1. This man dominated a champion for almost 10 years in a big upset. In the premier division. And unexpectedly. Tyson Fury