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northern wrote:
boxingya wrote:
northern wrote:
That's true 9-0 professionally, 7-0-1 amateur and 2-0 in the UFC, just hope he gets matched up fairly and not thrown to a big name too soon.
And it was Michael Page I meant to name earlier 9-0 professionally, 5-0 in bellator and a world level kickboxer well before he ever got in the cage
Page has that Anderson Silva type athleticism about his striking. The problem is that he has very little else to back it up. Silva was great off of his back. I think when Page eventually ends up in that position against a truly world class wrestler/grappler, he's gonna be in trouble.
True but time will tell if and when he gets matched up with a grappler who can take him down and properly take control of a grappling match.

Bellator now has a pretty good set of welterweights to draw attention outside of page you have big names like Daley and Koscheck and good fighters like Ward and Lima who have good records there and that's before you look at the welterweight champion koreshkov
The problem is that Bellator is packed full of has beens, never was's and freakshow fights mixed in with the odd raw talent here and there.
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boxingya wrote:
jujigatame wrote:I feel Edgar's pain. He has earned another title shot several times over at this point. There are plenty of good challengers at 155, there is no need for McGregor to move up, particularly not after he just won the title and hasn't even defended it once yet. McGregor/Edgar is the obvious fight to make and it seems like they're doing everything in their power not to make it.

Not to mention, Edgar is just an immensely likable fighter. He managed to become maybe the best LW ever despite being ridiculously undersized for the division, always sought out the toughest fights, and is now nearing the twilight of his career. Give this man his title shot!!
RDA is a tougher fight than Edgar.
That's neither here nor there.
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jujigatame wrote:
boxingya wrote:
jujigatame wrote:I feel Edgar's pain. He has earned another title shot several times over at this point. There are plenty of good challengers at 155, there is no need for McGregor to move up, particularly not after he just won the title and hasn't even defended it once yet. McGregor/Edgar is the obvious fight to make and it seems like they're doing everything in their power not to make it.

Not to mention, Edgar is just an immensely likable fighter. He managed to become maybe the best LW ever despite being ridiculously undersized for the division, always sought out the toughest fights, and is now nearing the twilight of his career. Give this man his title shot!!
RDA is a tougher fight than Edgar.
That's neither here nor there.
Well of course it is. You're saying Mcgregor/Edgar is the obvious fight to make when if Mcgregor was to beat RDA it would be a hell of an achievement and Mcgregor fighting for a second belt in a different weight class would draw in more casual followers of the sport who make up a large portion of the PPV buys I imagine. Most casuals couldnt care less about Edgar as good a fighter as he is. Anyway, that fight will still be there for Edgar whatever happens. I think Mcgregor would come down to 145 to fight Edgar if he beats RDA and he'll definietly be doing so if he loses.
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Impractical Poster wrote:RDA should run through Conor.
:lol:
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Just checked the p4p rankings on the UFC website, why has Jones gone up to #1 and Johnson gone down to #2 without either of them fighting?
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King Carlos wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:RDA should run through Conor.
:lol:
His strength, skill, and level changes will be too much for the McGregor. If you thought Mendes took Conor down with ease, you ain't seen nothin yet.
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ElJefe wrote:Just checked the p4p rankings on the UFC website, why has Jones gone up to #1 and Johnson gone down to #2 without either of them fighting?
I believe Johnson took over the top spot once Aldo lost. Then once Jones got reinstated, he took back over the top spot.
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Impractical Poster wrote:
ElJefe wrote:Just checked the p4p rankings on the UFC website, why has Jones gone up to #1 and Johnson gone down to #2 without either of them fighting?
I believe Johnson took over the top spot once Aldo lost. Then once Jones got reinstated, he took back over the top spot.
That's what I thought but it had Jones ^1 place to #1, which means he was already at #2. Strange
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Impractical Poster wrote:
King Carlos wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:RDA should run through Conor.
:lol:
His strength, skill, and level changes will be too much for the McGregor. If you thought Mendes took Conor down with ease, you ain't seen nothin yet.
I tend to agree with this, but unless RDA puts him away on the ground, Conor will always have a chance. I've been a doubter for some time however RDA is the worst style match-up for him barring Khabib if he ever recovers so I will be completely sold and then some if he wins this.
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Major idiots out there..

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Deadendgeneration wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
King Carlos wrote: :lol:
His strength, skill, and level changes will be too much for the McGregor. If you thought Mendes took Conor down with ease, you ain't seen nothin yet.
I tend to agree with this, but unless RDA puts him away on the ground, Conor will always have a chance. I've been a doubter for some time however RDA is the worst style match-up for him barring Khabib if he ever recovers so I will be completely sold and then some if he wins this.
There is always a chance RDA could get Aldo'ed. But, I don't see RDA getting intimidated and thrown off his game the way Aldo did. Aldo looked terrified just before the bell sounded. As good as Rafael is on the feet, he would be wise to set up his take downs as quickly as possible and give the McGregor some good ole GnP.
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boxingya wrote:
jujigatame wrote:
boxingya wrote: RDA is a tougher fight than Edgar.
That's neither here nor there.
Well of course it is. You're saying Mcgregor/Edgar is the obvious fight to make when if Mcgregor was to beat RDA it would be a hell of an achievement and Mcgregor fighting for a second belt in a different weight class would draw in more casual followers of the sport who make up a large portion of the PPV buys I imagine. Most casuals couldnt care less about Edgar as good a fighter as he is. Anyway, that fight will still be there for Edgar whatever happens. I think Mcgregor would come down to 145 to fight Edgar if he beats RDA and he'll definietly be doing so if he loses.
All I'm saying is, I want to see McGregor/Edgar, and I think Edgar has earned it.

I've never been a big fan of inter-divisional superfights and guys moving up when there are plenty of challengers waiting around in their own weight class.
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Frankie Edgar has gotten screwed over royally the past year or so. He deserved a title shot before Mcgregor. Daddy Dana knows this, McGregor knows this, along with the rest of the educated public. I remember McGregor stating that he was planning on moving up to 155 after the Aldo fight unless Edgar was impressive in his outing with Mendes. The issue now is that everyone is aware that Edgar is an incredible threat to the McGregor money machine. They want to cash in on this joker while they can.

I don't think McGregor is a push over by any means. But, his weaknesses were exploited to a high degree in the Mendes fight. Which is why I am a bit surprised that he is facing RDA. But, they know this fight is going to bank regardless of the outcome I spose.
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If you guys were talking about Khabib, I'd agree. Dos Anjos, however, is primarily a striker and is becoming more and more so as his career progresses.
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King Carlos wrote:If you guys were talking about Khabib, I'd agree. Dos Anjos, however, is primarily a striker and is becoming more and more so as his career progresses.
I disagree. He is becoming a better striker, as he is becoming a better wrestler as well. He has upped his game in both departments over the years. Especially since his loss to The Eagle. He didn't have to display his wrestling in the Cowboy bout because his striking took care of business first. But, he showed in his title win against Pettis that he uses effective striking to set up excellent take downs to display some of the meanest GnP in the game today. He has evolved into a complete package... Something McGregor is not at this point in his career.
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Impractical Poster wrote:Frankie Edgar has gotten screwed over royally the past year or so. He deserved a title shot before Mcgregor. Daddy Dana knows this, McGregor knows this, along with the rest of the educated public. I remember McGregor stating that he was planning on moving up to 155 after the Aldo fight unless Edgar was impressive in his outing with Mendes. The issue now is that everyone is aware that Edgar is an incredible threat to the McGregor money machine. They want to cash in on this joker while they can.

I don't think McGregor is a push over by any means. But, his weaknesses were exploited to a high degree in the Mendes fight. Which is why I am a bit surprised that he is facing RDA. But, they know this fight is going to bank regardless of the outcome I spose.
:lol: Joker? Come on now, your posts are getting more and more impractical.
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Almost forgot about dillashaw v cruz. Could potentially be awesome. Tye way TJ dismantled barao twice was super impressive.
Ire easy to forget how good cruz is though. Just with the inactivity I think TJ might overwhelm him
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Impractical Poster wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote: His strength, skill, and level changes will be too much for the McGregor. If you thought Mendes took Conor down with ease, you ain't seen nothin yet.
I tend to agree with this, but unless RDA puts him away on the ground, Conor will always have a chance. I've been a doubter for some time however RDA is the worst style match-up for him barring Khabib if he ever recovers so I will be completely sold and then some if he wins this.
There is always a chance RDA could get Aldo'ed. But, I don't see RDA getting intimidated and thrown off his game the way Aldo did. Aldo looked terrified just before the bell sounded. As good as Rafael is on the feet, he would be wise to set up his take downs as quickly as possible and give the McGregor some good ole GnP.
X2. Though I think Connor is the better striker, RDA is stronger and has better ground game.

Connor will look good at 155 I think, he always looked kinda thin at 145. He's define toy got the frame for it so I don't think he'll be at as much of a disadvantage as some people think
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thunderfromdownunder wrote:Almost forgot about dillashaw v cruz. Could potentially be awesome. Tye way TJ dismantled barao twice was super impressive.
Ire easy to forget how good cruz is though. Just with the inactivity I think TJ might overwhelm him
It's a great card for a regular fight night. Interesting to see how Pettis looks too. Felder V Cruickshank is a great fight for striking fans, shame it's on fight pass.
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thunderfromdownunder wrote:Almost forgot about dillashaw v cruz. Could potentially be awesome. Tye way TJ dismantled barao twice was super impressive.
Ire easy to forget how good cruz is though. Just with the inactivity I think TJ might overwhelm him
Great fight on paper but they both like to move a lot, could turn into a bit of a chess match. I know it is how it is, but I wish the UFC would make the cages a bit smaller. Hit and not get hit and all that, but the cage size makes it way too easy for fighters to not engage.
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danamba7 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Frankie Edgar has gotten screwed over royally the past year or so. He deserved a title shot before Mcgregor. Daddy Dana knows this, McGregor knows this, along with the rest of the educated public. I remember McGregor stating that he was planning on moving up to 155 after the Aldo fight unless Edgar was impressive in his outing with Mendes. The issue now is that everyone is aware that Edgar is an incredible threat to the McGregor money machine. They want to cash in on this joker while they can.

I don't think McGregor is a push over by any means. But, his weaknesses were exploited to a high degree in the Mendes fight. Which is why I am a bit surprised that he is facing RDA. But, they know this fight is going to bank regardless of the outcome I spose.
:lol: Joker? Come on now, your posts are getting more and more impractical.
Even though I think he one of the best, if not, the best striker in MMA, atm... he is still quite the joker.

Saying they want to cash in on him while they can was a wrong choice of words for me to use, though, as I'm sure he will still generate tons of interest even after his aura of invincibility has gone.
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Just caught up with Rizin and the State of Sakuraba was a sad sight indeed one-sided hammering..

on a side not i m loving Dana looking for a fight i ve been a fan of TUF since that first series on Bravo but to me its kinda done now not getting the talent you did and would rather see shows like this or the smaller shows that uff are letting stream on their online services... thought?
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junior pepa seed wrote:Just caught up with Rizin and the State of Sakuraba was a sad sight indeed one-sided hammering..

on a side not i m loving Dana looking for a fight i ve been a fan of TUF since that first series on Bravo but to me its kinda done now not getting the talent you did and would rather see shows like this or the smaller shows that uff are letting stream on their online services... thought?
I miss Dana's vlogs where he used to just flash his cash lol
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Cruz has got a really odd striking style. Hard to define it.
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boxingya wrote:Cruz has got a really odd striking style. Hard to define it.
It certainly is. The way he moves is a bit like some type of dance. It's very unorthodox and allows him to land from odd angles and pull off explosive take downs.

If he is anywhere around his old form, he should win this bout.
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