To me it seems odd not to count all of Chavez's fights in assessing his standing. On the other side it would seem absurd to count all of Duran's 70's fights.
Some of the best wins of the decade for me...
Duran W15 Leonard
Spinks W15 Holmes
Leonard W15 Hagler
Sanchez KO 15 Nelson
Sanchez KO 8 Gomez
Leonard KO 14 Hearns
The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
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Some of these great and fantastic fighters didn't make the 80s top ten. The era was flooded with talent. An extensive explanation:
1. Aaron Pryor: The poster boy of an era of American drug culture. Fearless competitor and complete boxer, was one of the 80s decade most compelling stars after failing to make the 1976 Olympic team for USA. A boxer with a tremendous work rate like the great Henry Armstrong before him, got his career cut short after his historic controversial stoppage win against the great Alexis Arguello. Was 17-1 in decade, and in one point, won 14 in a row by knockout from Feb 1980 and ended when he stopped Arguello again in Sep '83. Seeing that he couldn't get another multi-million dollar fight with the main super star of the decade in Sugar Ray Leonard, The Hawk retired and went into a serious binge of drugs and alcohol problems. After seeing that he squandered his hard earned money on drugs, was never the same fighter in his comeback, even that he won the IBF Jr. welterweight title in '84. It was a shame that a promising career was cut short. But, what he did in the decade, was impressive winning his first 9 title bouts by knockout. And he stopped, including twice against Arguello, Antonio Cervantes, Gaetan Hart, DuJuan Johnson, Miguel Montilla and Sang Hyung Kim. Other fights with Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Roberto Duran didn't materialized. Maybe the timing was not right. But, what he gave us in the decade of his performances, we still remember him until this day.
2. Wilfredo Gomez: Puerto Rico's shining star and revered champion carried what he left in the 70s into the 80s, ravaging every single fighter by knockout in the decade's first 5 fights. Some say that it was very unlikely to see him get beat against anybody around the 122lbs, where he was the king. On Feb 3, 1980, Gomez broke the great Roberto Duran's record of most consecutive title defenses won by knockout when he won his 13th title win in a row. That was the only way that he was making sure that his wins were going to have no doubt. And by the way, he was destroying every single Mexican boxer that dared to be in his way. And in a rivalry so hot and intense between Mexico and Puerto Rico, he was not gonna let his countrymen down. Just ask the great Carlos Zarate when he challenged him in '78. Gomez brutalized him in 4 rounds. It seemed that no Mexican could beat him at all. But, then came his kryptonite: Salvador Sanchez. Sanchez gave him the beating of his life in 8 unforgettable rounds and that was it with Bazooka. He was never the same after that even though, he won 2 more titles. But, the damage was done. Sanchez gave him the beating of his life and couldn't get a rematch. Sanchez died a year later in a car crash.
3. Eusebio Pedroza: In a star-studded era like the 80s, it was hard to get noticed by the top notch promoters in you didn't win the kind of way the fans want. If you win by decision, win without a shadow of a doubt. And if you win by KO, make sure you be so impressive in the first time you appear in American TV audiences. The Panamanian Scorpion was a great champion. But not the kind of champion that the American fans wanted to see him winning. Especially when he was beating every American prospect that tried to take his title. Plus, in the eyes of the American public and the network tv stations, he was view as a DIRTY FIGHTER. How could a fighter like Pedroza could not get any love? He was slick. He was an utterly confident champion. He was a complete fighter. And yes, he could fight and take your heart out, especially if you was betting against him. The problem was, that he was not a marketable boxer because of the reasons above. And the other problem was that the featherweight elite, didn't want to look his way. He was bypassed by the superstars of the time. He made 14 title defenses of the featherweight crown and never got a deserving big payday like Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson and Wilfredo Gomez. And when Irish super star Barry McGuigan dethroned him, Americans and British celebrated like if it was Christmas day. Did he stayed too long at featherweight champion and look for bigger fish? I don't know, and to some people that hated him, didn't matter either. But, those who wanted him see lose at least gave him his props.
4. Mike McCallum: Some fighters come to the big time party when the party was past the best hours. At 4am, the party is almost over, and if you are lucky, you might get the last of the left overs. That's what happened to this great boxer from Jamaica. The Body Snatcher Mike McCallum. He came at the time when The Fab 4 of Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Marvelous Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard were into engaging one of boxing's biggest rivalries of all time. Maybe, there wasn't room for him, anyway. Like if he missed the midnight train to Georgia. He couldn't show his skills against them. The party was booked already. Duran, for more cash, challenged Hearns. Leonard? was retired for most of the time. Hearns was his Kronk's teammate, and Marvelous? Was waiting for a big payday with Duran, Hearns or Leonard. Especially, Leonard. But, he won two world crowns in the decade. And in his first reign, he won all his title defenses by knockout in which include Julian " The Hawk" Jackson, Milton McCrory and super star Donald Curry in his resume. But, they were not The Fab 4. And to make matters worse, he lost by decision against Sumbu Kalambay of Congo in his first attempt to win a piece of the middleweight crown. But, if you want to charge that against him, remember that in the 80s, he made his mark as possibly the greatest super welterweight champion ever. Oh, in that he got a dispute, too. The other champ was The Hitman Hearns.
5. Evander Holyfield: It was this decade that The Real Deal became known as the greatest cruiserweight of all time. But, that wasn't enough. First, what is a cruiserweight? Second, can you make money in that class? If the light-heavyweights tried to be recognized for years, what the hell the boxers that compete here will have a better fate? The Real Deal knew this, and after he cleaned up the cruisers, he wanted the BIG DOGS. THE BIG FISH. THE BIG RECOGNITION. THE BIG MONEY. THE BIG PAYDAYS. He went 23-0 in the decade. He beat the heavyweights Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas and Alex Stewart. But, he knew they weren't the man he really wanted: The great Mike Tyson. The undefeated and undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.
6. Khosai Galaxy: If we look carefully in his record, The Thai Tyson, won 43 fights in the decade and made 12 successful title defenses of the WBA super flyweight title. He became the first super flyweight ever to be inducted into the hall of fame. But, he never fought in America. He rarely left his country of Thailand. And his opponents names, plus the weight class that he's competed was not strong enough to select him as one of the 80s best. Maybe, he should have gone to bantamweight and beat those guys there. But, he rest content of his obscure accomplishments and preferred it that way.
7. Pernell Whitaker: One of the 80s masters, came into the scene as a gold medalist of the '84 Olympics. In 21 bouts, was untouchable. Even if you see that he has a loss in that resume. Sometimes the records lie. Sometimes numbers lie. And it did in Sweet Pea's case. Like so many, he came at the latter end of the decade. But it was the 1990s decade that he became the greatest legend.
1. Aaron Pryor: The poster boy of an era of American drug culture. Fearless competitor and complete boxer, was one of the 80s decade most compelling stars after failing to make the 1976 Olympic team for USA. A boxer with a tremendous work rate like the great Henry Armstrong before him, got his career cut short after his historic controversial stoppage win against the great Alexis Arguello. Was 17-1 in decade, and in one point, won 14 in a row by knockout from Feb 1980 and ended when he stopped Arguello again in Sep '83. Seeing that he couldn't get another multi-million dollar fight with the main super star of the decade in Sugar Ray Leonard, The Hawk retired and went into a serious binge of drugs and alcohol problems. After seeing that he squandered his hard earned money on drugs, was never the same fighter in his comeback, even that he won the IBF Jr. welterweight title in '84. It was a shame that a promising career was cut short. But, what he did in the decade, was impressive winning his first 9 title bouts by knockout. And he stopped, including twice against Arguello, Antonio Cervantes, Gaetan Hart, DuJuan Johnson, Miguel Montilla and Sang Hyung Kim. Other fights with Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Roberto Duran didn't materialized. Maybe the timing was not right. But, what he gave us in the decade of his performances, we still remember him until this day.
2. Wilfredo Gomez: Puerto Rico's shining star and revered champion carried what he left in the 70s into the 80s, ravaging every single fighter by knockout in the decade's first 5 fights. Some say that it was very unlikely to see him get beat against anybody around the 122lbs, where he was the king. On Feb 3, 1980, Gomez broke the great Roberto Duran's record of most consecutive title defenses won by knockout when he won his 13th title win in a row. That was the only way that he was making sure that his wins were going to have no doubt. And by the way, he was destroying every single Mexican boxer that dared to be in his way. And in a rivalry so hot and intense between Mexico and Puerto Rico, he was not gonna let his countrymen down. Just ask the great Carlos Zarate when he challenged him in '78. Gomez brutalized him in 4 rounds. It seemed that no Mexican could beat him at all. But, then came his kryptonite: Salvador Sanchez. Sanchez gave him the beating of his life in 8 unforgettable rounds and that was it with Bazooka. He was never the same after that even though, he won 2 more titles. But, the damage was done. Sanchez gave him the beating of his life and couldn't get a rematch. Sanchez died a year later in a car crash.
3. Eusebio Pedroza: In a star-studded era like the 80s, it was hard to get noticed by the top notch promoters in you didn't win the kind of way the fans want. If you win by decision, win without a shadow of a doubt. And if you win by KO, make sure you be so impressive in the first time you appear in American TV audiences. The Panamanian Scorpion was a great champion. But not the kind of champion that the American fans wanted to see him winning. Especially when he was beating every American prospect that tried to take his title. Plus, in the eyes of the American public and the network tv stations, he was view as a DIRTY FIGHTER. How could a fighter like Pedroza could not get any love? He was slick. He was an utterly confident champion. He was a complete fighter. And yes, he could fight and take your heart out, especially if you was betting against him. The problem was, that he was not a marketable boxer because of the reasons above. And the other problem was that the featherweight elite, didn't want to look his way. He was bypassed by the superstars of the time. He made 14 title defenses of the featherweight crown and never got a deserving big payday like Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson and Wilfredo Gomez. And when Irish super star Barry McGuigan dethroned him, Americans and British celebrated like if it was Christmas day. Did he stayed too long at featherweight champion and look for bigger fish? I don't know, and to some people that hated him, didn't matter either. But, those who wanted him see lose at least gave him his props.
4. Mike McCallum: Some fighters come to the big time party when the party was past the best hours. At 4am, the party is almost over, and if you are lucky, you might get the last of the left overs. That's what happened to this great boxer from Jamaica. The Body Snatcher Mike McCallum. He came at the time when The Fab 4 of Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Marvelous Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard were into engaging one of boxing's biggest rivalries of all time. Maybe, there wasn't room for him, anyway. Like if he missed the midnight train to Georgia. He couldn't show his skills against them. The party was booked already. Duran, for more cash, challenged Hearns. Leonard? was retired for most of the time. Hearns was his Kronk's teammate, and Marvelous? Was waiting for a big payday with Duran, Hearns or Leonard. Especially, Leonard. But, he won two world crowns in the decade. And in his first reign, he won all his title defenses by knockout in which include Julian " The Hawk" Jackson, Milton McCrory and super star Donald Curry in his resume. But, they were not The Fab 4. And to make matters worse, he lost by decision against Sumbu Kalambay of Congo in his first attempt to win a piece of the middleweight crown. But, if you want to charge that against him, remember that in the 80s, he made his mark as possibly the greatest super welterweight champion ever. Oh, in that he got a dispute, too. The other champ was The Hitman Hearns.
5. Evander Holyfield: It was this decade that The Real Deal became known as the greatest cruiserweight of all time. But, that wasn't enough. First, what is a cruiserweight? Second, can you make money in that class? If the light-heavyweights tried to be recognized for years, what the hell the boxers that compete here will have a better fate? The Real Deal knew this, and after he cleaned up the cruisers, he wanted the BIG DOGS. THE BIG FISH. THE BIG RECOGNITION. THE BIG MONEY. THE BIG PAYDAYS. He went 23-0 in the decade. He beat the heavyweights Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas and Alex Stewart. But, he knew they weren't the man he really wanted: The great Mike Tyson. The undefeated and undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.
6. Khosai Galaxy: If we look carefully in his record, The Thai Tyson, won 43 fights in the decade and made 12 successful title defenses of the WBA super flyweight title. He became the first super flyweight ever to be inducted into the hall of fame. But, he never fought in America. He rarely left his country of Thailand. And his opponents names, plus the weight class that he's competed was not strong enough to select him as one of the 80s best. Maybe, he should have gone to bantamweight and beat those guys there. But, he rest content of his obscure accomplishments and preferred it that way.
7. Pernell Whitaker: One of the 80s masters, came into the scene as a gold medalist of the '84 Olympics. In 21 bouts, was untouchable. Even if you see that he has a loss in that resume. Sometimes the records lie. Sometimes numbers lie. And it did in Sweet Pea's case. Like so many, he came at the latter end of the decade. But it was the 1990s decade that he became the greatest legend.
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Others that missed the cut in the 80s:
Hector "Macho" Camacho: Some of us were glad when the hall of fame called for Puerto Rico's deceased super star Camacho. He was a was a flamboyant and entertaining boxer that went undefeated in the decade. And like the 80s, he was flashy. He had super star appeal. He was fast. He was brash and cocky. And yes, he was one of the most complete boxers of the decade. He could do it all. He even said that it was "Macho Time!" and we bought it. He was that good. But something in the way made him disappear. What happened? I don't know. He beat Bazooka Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Rafael Williams convincingly. There were talks about a fight between he and super star Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini in a multi million dollar payday extravaganza. It didn't happen. Not in their primes at least. One country man named Edwin "Chapo" Rosario gave him one shot to the chin, and Camacho, although he won by a controversial decision, was never the same guy. And never again he gave us that flashiness.
Edwin "Chapo" Rosario: Was dubbed as the Duran of the 80s by ring experts. But, it's hard to fill a great champion, nevertheless a legend like The Hands of Stone. The question was, what fighter could live to that billing? There's only one Roberto Duran. Chapo was another star of the 80s decade because he gave what the public wanted: The knockouts. He became twice lightweight champion in the decade. But, sometimes luck, time and opportunity don't go your way. And when the great Mexican Julio Cesar Chavez got hold of him and did a job on his face, Chapo was never the same. But, we remember his wars with Jose Luis Ramirez and Hector Camacho. And we will also remember how easily knocked out Livingstone Bramble before Chavez arrived.
Jeff Fenech: Multiple champion that won 3 titles in a short period of time. Went undefeated in the decade. Did he came to America in the 80s?
Hector "Macho" Camacho: Some of us were glad when the hall of fame called for Puerto Rico's deceased super star Camacho. He was a was a flamboyant and entertaining boxer that went undefeated in the decade. And like the 80s, he was flashy. He had super star appeal. He was fast. He was brash and cocky. And yes, he was one of the most complete boxers of the decade. He could do it all. He even said that it was "Macho Time!" and we bought it. He was that good. But something in the way made him disappear. What happened? I don't know. He beat Bazooka Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Rafael Williams convincingly. There were talks about a fight between he and super star Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini in a multi million dollar payday extravaganza. It didn't happen. Not in their primes at least. One country man named Edwin "Chapo" Rosario gave him one shot to the chin, and Camacho, although he won by a controversial decision, was never the same guy. And never again he gave us that flashiness.
Edwin "Chapo" Rosario: Was dubbed as the Duran of the 80s by ring experts. But, it's hard to fill a great champion, nevertheless a legend like The Hands of Stone. The question was, what fighter could live to that billing? There's only one Roberto Duran. Chapo was another star of the 80s decade because he gave what the public wanted: The knockouts. He became twice lightweight champion in the decade. But, sometimes luck, time and opportunity don't go your way. And when the great Mexican Julio Cesar Chavez got hold of him and did a job on his face, Chapo was never the same. But, we remember his wars with Jose Luis Ramirez and Hector Camacho. And we will also remember how easily knocked out Livingstone Bramble before Chavez arrived.
Jeff Fenech: Multiple champion that won 3 titles in a short period of time. Went undefeated in the decade. Did he came to America in the 80s?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
No need for novels, you're just dumb. Lmao at any list that has Tyson #2 and his daddy doesn't make the cut.
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elmersalsa
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
Like the Bible says: Do not answer a fool according to his folly
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
You just did. 
I've forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know.
I've forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know.Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
elmersalsa wrote:Some of these great and fantastic fighters didn't make the 80s top ten. The era was flooded with talent. An extensive explanation:
1. Aaron Pryor: The poster boy of an era of American drug culture. Fearless competitor and complete boxer, was one of the 80s decade most compelling stars after failing to make the 1976 Olympic team for USA. A boxer with a tremendous work rate like the great Henry Armstrong before him, got his career cut short after his historic controversial stoppage win against the great Alexis Arguello. Was 17-1 in decade, and in one point, won 14 in a row by knockout from Feb 1980 and ended when he stopped Arguello again in Sep '83. Seeing that he couldn't get another multi-million dollar fight with the main super star of the decade in Sugar Ray Leonard, The Hawk retired and went into a serious binge of drugs and alcohol problems. After seeing that he squandered his hard earned money on drugs, was never the same fighter in his comeback, even that he won the IBF Jr. welterweight title in '84. It was a shame that a promising career was cut short. But, what he did in the decade, was impressive winning his first 9 title bouts by knockout. And he stopped, including twice against Arguello, Antonio Cervantes, Gaetan Hart, DuJuan Johnson, Miguel Montilla and Sang Hyung Kim. Other fights with Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and Roberto Duran didn't materialized. Maybe the timing was not right. But, what he gave us in the decade of his performances, we still remember him until this day.
2. Wilfredo Gomez: Puerto Rico's shining star and revered champion carried what he left in the 70s into the 80s, ravaging every single fighter by knockout in the decade's first 5 fights. Some say that it was very unlikely to see him get beat against anybody around the 122lbs, where he was the king. On Feb 3, 1980, Gomez broke the great Roberto Duran's record of most consecutive title defenses won by knockout when he won his 13th title win in a row. That was the only way that he was making sure that his wins were going to have no doubt. And by the way, he was destroying every single Mexican boxer that dared to be in his way. And in a rivalry so hot and intense between Mexico and Puerto Rico, he was not gonna let his countrymen down. Just ask the great Carlos Zarate when he challenged him in '78. Gomez brutalized him in 4 rounds. It seemed that no Mexican could beat him at all. But, then came his kryptonite: Salvador Sanchez. Sanchez gave him the beating of his life in 8 unforgettable rounds and that was it with Bazooka. He was never the same after that even though, he won 2 more titles. But, the damage was done. Sanchez gave him the beating of his life and couldn't get a rematch. Sanchez died a year later in a car crash.
3. Eusebio Pedroza: In a star-studded era like the 80s, it was hard to get noticed by the top notch promoters in you didn't win the kind of way the fans want. If you win by decision, win without a shadow of a doubt. And if you win by KO, make sure you be so impressive in the first time you appear in American TV audiences. The Panamanian Scorpion was a great champion. But not the kind of champion that the American fans wanted to see him winning. Especially when he was beating every American prospect that tried to take his title. Plus, in the eyes of the American public and the network tv stations, he was view as a DIRTY FIGHTER. How could a fighter like Pedroza could not get any love? He was slick. He was an utterly confident champion. He was a complete fighter. And yes, he could fight and take your heart out, especially if you was betting against him. The problem was, that he was not a marketable boxer because of the reasons above. And the other problem was that the featherweight elite, didn't want to look his way. He was bypassed by the superstars of the time. He made 14 title defenses of the featherweight crown and never got a deserving big payday like Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson and Wilfredo Gomez. And when Irish super star Barry McGuigan dethroned him, Americans and British celebrated like if it was Christmas day. Did he stayed too long at featherweight champion and look for bigger fish? I don't know, and to some people that hated him, didn't matter either. But, those who wanted him see lose at least gave him his props.
4. Mike McCallum: Some fighters come to the big time party when the party was past the best hours. At 4am, the party is almost over, and if you are lucky, you might get the last of the left overs. That's what happened to this great boxer from Jamaica. The Body Snatcher Mike McCallum. He came at the time when The Fab 4 of Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Marvelous Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard were into engaging one of boxing's biggest rivalries of all time. Maybe, there wasn't room for him, anyway. Like if he missed the midnight train to Georgia. He couldn't show his skills against them. The party was booked already. Duran, for more cash, challenged Hearns. Leonard? was retired for most of the time. Hearns was his Kronk's teammate, and Marvelous? Was waiting for a big payday with Duran, Hearns or Leonard. Especially, Leonard. But, he won two world crowns in the decade. And in his first reign, he won all his title defenses by knockout in which include Julian " The Hawk" Jackson, Milton McCrory and super star Donald Curry in his resume. But, they were not The Fab 4. And to make matters worse, he lost by decision against Sumbu Kalambay of Congo in his first attempt to win a piece of the middleweight crown. But, if you want to charge that against him, remember that in the 80s, he made his mark as possibly the greatest super welterweight champion ever. Oh, in that he got a dispute, too. The other champ was The Hitman Hearns.
5. Evander Holyfield: It was this decade that The Real Deal became known as the greatest cruiserweight of all time. But, that wasn't enough. First, what is a cruiserweight? Second, can you make money in that class? If the light-heavyweights tried to be recognized for years, what the hell the boxers that compete here will have a better fate? The Real Deal knew this, and after he cleaned up the cruisers, he wanted the BIG DOGS. THE BIG FISH. THE BIG RECOGNITION. THE BIG MONEY. THE BIG PAYDAYS. He went 23-0 in the decade. He beat the heavyweights Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas and Alex Stewart. But, he knew they weren't the man he really wanted: The great Mike Tyson. The undefeated and undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.
6. Khosai Galaxy: If we look carefully in his record, The Thai Tyson, won 43 fights in the decade and made 12 successful title defenses of the WBA super flyweight title. He became the first super flyweight ever to be inducted into the hall of fame. But, he never fought in America. He rarely left his country of Thailand. And his opponents names, plus the weight class that he's competed was not strong enough to select him as one of the 80s best. Maybe, he should have gone to bantamweight and beat those guys there. But, he rest content of his obscure accomplishments and preferred it that way.
7. Pernell Whitaker: One of the 80s masters, came into the scene as a gold medalist of the '84 Olympics. In 21 bouts, was untouchable. Even if you see that he has a loss in that resume. Sometimes the records lie. Sometimes numbers lie. And it did in Sweet Pea's case. Like so many, he came at the latter end of the decade. But it was the 1990s decade that he became the greatest legend.
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
Chavez won three crowns in 3 weight divisions: WBC World Jr. Lightweight (1984-87), WBA World Lightweight (1987-89), and WBC World Jr. Welterweight (1989-94, 1994-96). Went 67-0 in the decade of the 80s. And he beat Mario Martinez, Edwin "Chapo" Rosario, Ruben Castillo, Roger Mayweather (twice by KO), Rocky Lockridge, Juan LaPorte, and Jose Luis Ramirez.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Julio won titles in 2 divisions in the 80's, Tommy won titles in 5. Lmaoelmersalsa wrote:The great Julio Cesar Chavez was 68-0 in the 80s decade. Won 3 world titles in 3 weight classes, beating top notch opposition. One of the most underrated boxers of the decade. Maybe was because he came after his country man Salvador Sanchez as the top dog of Mexican boxers.
He was the first Mexican ever to win 3 world crowns in 3 different weight classes.
He destroyed lightweight champ Edwin "Chapo" Rosario. It was a masterpiece.
The great Thomas Hearns lost THE TWO BIGGEST FIGHTS OF HIS CAREER. That cost him. Chavez won his first super fight with extraordinary fashion against Chapo.
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
The great Mike Tyson won the biggest and most anticipated heavyweight title fight of the 1980s decade when he destroyed the great Michael Spinks in 91 seconds!
Iron Mike went 37-0, 33KOs in the decade. Unified and cleaned up the division...Made 9 successful title defenses, became the youngest heavyweight champion ever at 20, and was twice The Ring Fighter of the Year (1986 and 1988).
Among his victims in the decade, he beat these top men: Trevor Berbick, Larry Holmes, Spinks, Tony Tucker, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Tyrell Biggs, Carl "The Truth" Williams, James "Bonecrusher" Smith, Frank Bruno and Marvis Frazier. With the exception of Tucker and Bonecrusher Smith, he knocked all of them out. Remarkable! Number 2 in the decade? Gotta be!
Iron Mike went 37-0, 33KOs in the decade. Unified and cleaned up the division...Made 9 successful title defenses, became the youngest heavyweight champion ever at 20, and was twice The Ring Fighter of the Year (1986 and 1988).
Among his victims in the decade, he beat these top men: Trevor Berbick, Larry Holmes, Spinks, Tony Tucker, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Tyrell Biggs, Carl "The Truth" Williams, James "Bonecrusher" Smith, Frank Bruno and Marvis Frazier. With the exception of Tucker and Bonecrusher Smith, he knocked all of them out. Remarkable! Number 2 in the decade? Gotta be!
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
Chavez beat excellent boxers in the 80sSaadOffTheDeck wrote:Then again Rosario was greater than benitez, Leonard and Duran. Elmo, once in a blue moon you should just admit you talked out of your ass and are woefully wrong. Edit: thinking about, JCC did get his 3 in the 80's, his signature 'win' was in 1990. As far as opposition, he fought club fighters compared to hearns.
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Tyson was unbeaten in the 80's. Dominated and unified his division. Handed Larry Holmes his only stoppage defeat and destroyed the unbeaten lineal champion in 91 seconds. Of course he belongs beat the top. There's some biased bullshit on this thread. Hearns could be ranked number 1? Don't make me laugh.
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
keithmoonhangover wrote:Tyson was unbeaten in the 80's. Dominated and unified his division. Handed Larry Holmes his only stoppage defeat and destroyed the unbeaten lineal champion in 91 seconds. Of course he belongs beat the top. There's some biased bullshit on this thread. Hearns could be ranked number 1? Don't make me laugh.
Lots of people forget how special and great boxer Iron Mike was. At 20, he was special
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
keithmoonhangover wrote:Tyson was unbeaten in the 80's. Dominated and unified his division. Handed Larry Holmes his only stoppage defeat and destroyed the unbeaten lineal champion in 91 seconds. Of course he belongs beat the top. There's some biased bullshit on this thread. Hearns could be ranked number 1? Don't make me laugh.
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
There's no question whatsoever that Tyson rates very highly in an 80s list. Well above Holyfield, for sure.
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
Perhaps, Chavez and Tyson over Hearns is laughable. Holmes should be over Tyson.King Carlos wrote:There's no question whatsoever that Tyson rates very highly in an 80s list. Well above Holyfield, for sure.
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
The Hitman over JCC and Iron Mike in the 80s is laughable. He lost the two biggest fights of his career.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Perhaps, Chavez and Tyson over Hearns is laughable. Holmes should be over Tyson.King Carlos wrote:There's no question whatsoever that Tyson rates very highly in an 80s list. Well above Holyfield, for sure.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
elmersalsa wrote:The Hitman over JCC and Iron Mike in the 80s is laughable. He lost the two biggest fights of his career.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Perhaps, Chavez and Tyson over Hearns is laughable. Holmes should be over Tyson.King Carlos wrote:There's no question whatsoever that Tyson rates very highly in an 80s list. Well above Holyfield, for sure.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
Hearns got knocked out by Iran Barkley. Now in the real world that means something, in Saad's la-la land it mustn't.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Perhaps, Chavez and Tyson over Hearns is laughable. Holmes should be over Tyson.King Carlos wrote:There's no question whatsoever that Tyson rates very highly in an 80s list. Well above Holyfield, for sure.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
Only Leonard and Hagler can rival his wins in the decade, and, unlike those two,he fought at the top of the sport the entire 10 years.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
And got knocked out by Iran Barkley. Yes he had great wins, but that loss cannot be ignored.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Leonard and Hagler can rival his wins in the decade, and, unlike those two,he fought at the top of the sport the entire 10 years.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
Why would it be? Doesn't mean he falls off a cliff. He beat Leonard, Duran, Cuevas, benitez, Roldan, andries, etc...keithmoonhangover wrote:And got knocked out by Iran Barkley. Yes he had great wins, but that loss cannot be ignored.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Leonard and Hagler can rival his wins in the decade, and, unlike those two,he fought at the top of the sport the entire 10 years.
Much more impressive than Chavez decade.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
He doesnt fall off a cliff, but he falls from the top spot.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Why would it be? Doesn't mean he falls off a cliff. He beat Leonard, Duran, Cuevas, benitez, Roldan, andries, etc...keithmoonhangover wrote:And got knocked out by Iran Barkley. Yes he had great wins, but that loss cannot be ignored.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only Leonard and Hagler can rival his wins in the decade, and, unlike those two,he fought at the top of the sport the entire 10 years.
Much more impressive than Chavez decade.
Dennis Andries? Seriously? Always beaten at top level Roldan? Who did Cuevas beat?
It's strange that you give little credit to Tyson for beating Holmes and Spinks, but Hearns gets to the top of the list for beating an ill prepared Duran and drawing with a long past his sell by date Leonard.
One things for sure, you don't know as much about boxing as you think you do.
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elmersalsa
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Re: The 10 Best Fighters of the 1980s
The great Julio Cesar Chavez was 16-0 in world title fights in the decade of the 80s in 3 weight classes. It cannot get much better than that. Number 3 in my view, to me, it's about right.