Conor McGregor/Floyd Mayweather Jr

[expe]

Both are examples of manufactured "personalities"

Floyd is a wet fish and although McGregor has more about him as a person, he still resorts to posing with watches, cars, sporting a huge beard and lots of tats to make him seem more "interesting" and adorable to the shallow, materialistic masses.

Neither are genuine 'characters' from what I have seen.

Good luck to them both though. I tip my hat to what they have achieved, definitely.

I imagine they both get together and laugh at all the money parting suckers who lap up these silly little "arguments" too! Means more interest in them which means more dollars in their pocket!

I think McGregor is a more genuine personality , in that the way he acts is closer to what he is, I think he's probably a lot more intelligent than Mayweather too, certainly wittier, his remarks seem more off the cuff, and are funnier.

This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

[reggaereggae]

I much,much prefer boxing to MMA, but McGregor has more character and fighting heart in his foreskin than Mayweather has ever had....

I do prefer a great boxing match, the problem is, there seem to be scant few of them these days. I'm struggling to recall the last high profile, top level fight that I got to see, that produced real fireworks.

GGG v Lemiuex wasn't bad, but it was a tad one sided to be compelling, still, at least GGG went out there to smash him up.
Canelo v Cotto was ok, but never quite caught fire, and was again relatively one sided.
Most of Froch's fights were great value, wish there were more like him in Boxing, prepared to go balls to the wall in world title fights.

There may be many other world title fights which are compelling, but the trouble is, it's very hard to get to see most of them, unless you want to watch after the event on youtube, which to be frank, I can't be arsed doing, as once I know the result, it's just not very interesting any more.

That's another huge problem boxing has, multiple networks and promoters, so you just can't get all the best content in one place, - how I wish you could.

Even if I had Sky, BT Sports, allegedly (I cancelled sky ages ago because it's a rip off) and shelled out for Every single PPV - which would cost me a small fortune a year, I still couldn't get to see all of the best fights, due to the labyrinthine business relationships boxing has.

Yes, great points. But things will hopefully change with the evolution of media and demand will lead to better VFM for the punter and a greater ease of viewing.

Because the costumer is more sophisticated and knowledgable and the market is more competitive.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I think McGregor is a more genuine personality , in that the way he acts is closer to what he is, I think he's probably a lot more intelligent than Mayweather too, certainly wittier, his remarks seem more off the cuff, and are funnier.

This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

I'd say McGregor is more entertaining, Mayweather is as dull as dishwater, and has the charisma of an out of date tin of spam.

I rate McGregor for what he did to Aldo, that was the most emphatic win I've ever seen over a guy who was at the absolute pinnacle of his sport.

when his huge mouth (to go with his boulder like head) stops flapping, and he gets in the ring, McGregor is all business, which is all I really ask for.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I much,much prefer boxing to MMA, but McGregor has more character and fighting heart in his foreskin than Mayweather has ever had....

I do prefer a great boxing match, the problem is, there seem to be scant few of them these days. I'm struggling to recall the last high profile, top level fight that I got to see, that produced real fireworks.

GGG v Lemiuex wasn't bad, but it was a tad one sided to be compelling, still, at least GGG went out there to smash him up.
Canelo v Cotto was ok, but never quite caught fire, and was again relatively one sided.
Most of Froch's fights were great value, wish there were more like him in Boxing, prepared to go balls to the wall in world title fights.

There may be many other world title fights which are compelling, but the trouble is, it's very hard to get to see most of them, unless you want to watch after the event on youtube, which to be frank, I can't be arsed doing, as once I know the result, it's just not very interesting any more.

That's another huge problem boxing has, multiple networks and promoters, so you just can't get all the best content in one place, - how I wish you could.

Even if I had Sky, BT Sports, allegedly (I cancelled sky ages ago because it's a rip off) and shelled out for Every single PPV - which would cost me a small fortune a year, I still couldn't get to see all of the best fights, due to the labyrinthine business relationships boxing has.

Yes, great points. But things will hopefully change with the evolution of media and demand will lead to better VFM for the punter and a greater ease of viewing.

Because the costumer is more sophisticated and knowledgable and the market is more competitive.

Well, I'm hoping that UFC will force them to up their game, especially in terms of competitiveness.

Dana White made a great point though, if you guarantee two fighters 30 million dollars a piece, before the fight, why on earth are they going to take any undue risks? Why bust their hump if they can do the bare minimum to win.

In UFC the side pots available for best KO, fight of the night, best submission are fairly sizable, and there are also other undisclosed bonus payments made, to keep fighters incentivised. I hope that model lasts a while, though it seems inevitable that stars will emerge who will think they are bigger than the sport, and demand huge sums merely for turning up.

[danamba7]

I think McGregor is a more genuine personality , in that the way he acts is closer to what he is, I think he's probably a lot more intelligent than Mayweather too, certainly wittier, his remarks seem more off the cuff, and are funnier.

This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

No idea what he's talking about? Wow, just wow.

[Undefeated49-0]

Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

[Impractical Poster]

Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

[Impractical Poster]

Thanks....just watched it all. Very sharp guy. Understands business and spot on about the problem with boxing.

I love when he talked about how everyone one is the world is fascinated by the toughest guys in the world. And if Mike Tyson walked through that door right then everyone would sh!t their pants....lol

[jamesmcdonnell]

Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

You can't see the difference between the two?

One is all blouse and no skirt, the other backs up the boasts with exciting fights.

[expe]

This. Conor's smarter, funnier and more entertaining. Nothing to do with race. It seemed like Floyd just made noise for the sake of making noise at times. I can't remember ever being particularly entertained or amused at anything he's said.

Conor's views on movement, visualization, positive thinking etc also set him apart from Floyd. He has that deep thinking, thoughtful side to him to balance out his arrogance.

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

No idea what he's talking about? Wow, just wow.

Well, he doesn't. Seems to just ramble on aimlessly without ever getting to the point or really saying anything at all, all the hallmarks of someone trying to blag that they're intelligent, but in reality they don't really know what they're on about.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Thanks....just watched it all. Very sharp guy. Understands business and spot on about the problem with boxing.

I love when he talked about how everyone one is the world is fascinated by the toughest guys in the world. And if Mike Tyson walked through that door right then everyone would sh!t their pants....lol

Yeah, one thing he failed to mention, is that pretty much every culture on earth has some form of Martial art, so the scope is endless for different nations to bring their fighting style into the mix. I've noticed recently that Capoeira, long regarded by most as a fitness dance craze, is being incorporated by a lot of MMA guys because of the movement and unpredictability it brings.

[Undefeated49-0]

Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

You can't see the difference between the two?

One is all blouse and no skirt, the other backs up the boasts with exciting fights.

Yeah sure, Floyd fights were all boring, Corrales boring, Gatti boring, Hatton boring, Corley boring, Manfredy boring, Judah boring, Ndou boring.

You can continue if you'd like but I guess you really proved your point, right??

[Undefeated49-0]

Oh I almost forgot to add that Floyd was fighting himself in all those fights so it's totally his fault that he's so good that he made the other fighter totally incapable of doing anything to mount any type of attack to make the fights exciting.

The thinking/logic and the things so called boxing fans these days say is totally exposed as hate by my comment.

[Impractical Poster]

Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

You can't see the difference between the two?

One is all blouse and no skirt, the other backs up the boasts with exciting fights.

Yeah sure, Floyd fights were all boring, Corrales boring, Gatti boring, Hatton boring, Corley boring, Manfredy boring, Judah boring, Ndou boring.

You can continue if you'd like but I guess you really proved your point, right??

Mayweather was a safety first type of fighter. Especially in the latter portions of his career. Dude very rarely got kos, and was satisfied with moving and potshotting his way to victories. Conor goes in there to take peoples heads off.

BTW, I can't stand Conor. He's got a huge mouth, and when he loses, it's going to be colossal. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. But, I am always tuning in to see what he is up to. I hope RDA knocks his head off. Conor is also much wittier and deeper than Floyd.

[Impractical Poster]

Oh I almost forgot to add that Floyd was fighting himself in all those fights so it's totally his fault that he's so good that he made the other fighter totally incapable of doing anything to mount any type of attack to make the fights exciting.

The thinking/logic and the things so called boxing fans these days say is totally exposed as hate by my comment.

If he's so good, why didn't he go for finishes?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Excuses and accepts Conor's potty mouth but condemns Mayweather, such Hypocrisy.

You can't see the difference between the two?

One is all blouse and no skirt, the other backs up the boasts with exciting fights.

Yeah sure, Floyd fights were all boring, Corrales boring, Gatti boring, Hatton boring, Corley boring, Manfredy boring, Judah boring, Ndou boring.

You can continue if you'd like but I guess you really proved your point, right??

Those fights are all a long time ago. The Hatton fight had a good conclusion, but let's not forget that prior to that end, Mayweather was fouling and spoiling like crazy. Great shot to end it though. Thought his fight with DLH had it's moments, but the latter part of his career has stunk in the main.

[Impractical Poster]

Hey Brut, go to the 30 minute mark and listen to what is being said and tell me it isn't true...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94w2lwU-To0

[danamba7]

He's thick as fook and because of that talks shite all the time as he has no idea what he's talking about, reminiscent of Eubank, minus the big words.

Mayweather and McGregor are both thick, neither of them are funny and neither are entertaining. Both play the same game, talk shite, wave money about and try and look flashy, the only people that find that interesting are idiots and their core support, the Irish for McGregor and black people for Mayweather, that will support him regardless as they see them as being one of their own.

No idea what he's talking about? Wow, just wow.

Well, he doesn't. Seems to just ramble on aimlessly without ever getting to the point or really saying anything at all, all the hallmarks of someone trying to blag that they're intelligent, but in reality they don't really know what they're on about.

Really surprised you feel that way, usually agree with a lot you post.

He may not be academic but he's definitely not "thick as fook" and he definitely knows what he's talking about when it comes to MMA the sport and MMA the business. He has talked, fought and negotiated his way to the top in less than 3 years. I'm not Irish and I'm not stupid but I find his rise incredibly inspiring. Watch this short clip if you've got 3 minutes spare. Don't tell me this is a man who doesn't know what he's on about!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUjPC49HhgU

[Undefeated49-0]

Those fights are all a long time ago. The Hatton fight had a good conclusion, but let's not forget that prior to that end, Mayweather was fouling and spoiling like crazy. Great shot to end it though. Thought his fight with DLH had it's moments, but the latter part of his career has stunk in the main.

Like I said your conclusion that his fights in his latter career stunk indicates that you are placing the sole blame of that on Floyd (as though he was the only one in the ring)> I guess it's hard to understand for yourself when you speak out of emotion rather than out of logic to conclude that he wasn't the only person in the ring.

Oh well, there's no point in this debate when it's obvious that you ignored the fact that McGregor is early into his career (which is why I used those early fights of Floyd as a comparison) and that we have yet to see when he reaches the age of 38 if he'll be as exciting a fighter he is right now.

But yeah, y'all go ahead and keep comparing the youngish career of Conor to a 38 year old Floyd.

[Undefeated49-0]

Hey Brut, go to the 30 minute mark and listen to what is being said and tell me it isn't true...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94w2lwU-To0

Sounds like he described Packy in that last fight with Floyd to a "T".

[expe]

No idea what he's talking about? Wow, just wow.

Well, he doesn't. Seems to just ramble on aimlessly without ever getting to the point or really saying anything at all, all the hallmarks of someone trying to blag that they're intelligent, but in reality they don't really know what they're on about.

Really surprised you feel that way, usually agree with a lot you post.

He may not be academic but he's definitely not "thick as fook" and he definitely knows what he's talking about when it comes to MMA the sport and MMA the business. He has talked, fought and negotiated his way to the top in less than 3 years. I'm not Irish and I'm not stupid but I find his rise incredibly inspiring. Watch this short clip if you've got 3 minutes spare. Don't tell me this is a man who doesn't know what he's on about!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUjPC49HhgU

I'm sure he knows what he's talking about when it comes to MMA, same as Mayweather with boxing, they're both at the top of their sports, it's to be expected. I meant generally when he starts trying to talk about politics and the other shite he talks about, he doesn't really know what he's on about and just bullshits his way through.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Those fights are all a long time ago. The Hatton fight had a good conclusion, but let's not forget that prior to that end, Mayweather was fouling and spoiling like crazy. Great shot to end it though. Thought his fight with DLH had it's moments, but the latter part of his career has stunk in the main.

Like I said your conclusion that his fights in his latter career stunk indicates that you are placing the sole blame of that on Floyd (as though he was the only one in the ring)> I guess it's hard to understand for yourself when you speak out of emotion rather than out of logic to conclude that he wasn't the only person in the ring.

Oh well, there's no point in this debate when it's obvious that you ignored the fact that McGregor is early into his career (which is why I used those early fights of Floyd as a comparison) and that we have yet to see when he reaches the age of 38 if he'll be as exciting a fighter he is right now.

But yeah, y'all go ahead and keep comparing the youngish career of Conor to a 38 year old Floyd.

Some fair points there to be sure (no pun intended) however, I would argue that Mayweather, when entirely dominating his opponents, always opted for the safest route possible, certainly the latter part of his career, choosing to be as risk averse possible, rather than entertain the fans.

Yes, I understand it's his life on the line, yes, I know he has bad hands, but whatever the reason, the end result were one-sided but incredibly dull fights where even the winner landed only a handful of shots each round.

[Undefeated49-0]

Some fair points there to be sure (no pun intended) however, I would argue that Mayweather, when entirely dominating his opponents, always opted for the safest route possible, certainly the latter part of his career, choosing to be as risk averse possible, rather than entertain the fans.

Yes, I understand it's his life on the line, yes, I know he has bad hands, but whatever the reason, the end result were one-sided but incredibly dull fights where even the winner landed only a handful of shots each round.

The name of the sport is called "boxing" not brawling, not knockout. A fighter is in this game for one thing, =MONEY!! They are not Entertainers, they don't put their life on the line for your enjoyment or for the like of making you feel enthused.

It is still up to the other opponent to make Floyd do something else, it's just too bad that you guys cannot appreciate an artist that was so great at what he was able to do in the ring to the point that most fighters could rarely lay a glove on him but yet many of you choose to be critical of that artistry rather than appreciate the beauty of it.

Have a nice day.

[Impractical Poster]

Those fights are all a long time ago. The Hatton fight had a good conclusion, but let's not forget that prior to that end, Mayweather was fouling and spoiling like crazy. Great shot to end it though. Thought his fight with DLH had it's moments, but the latter part of his career has stunk in the main.

Like I said your conclusion that his fights in his latter career stunk indicates that you are placing the sole blame of that on Floyd (as though he was the only one in the ring)> I guess it's hard to understand for yourself when you speak out of emotion rather than out of logic to conclude that he wasn't the only person in the ring.

Oh well, there's no point in this debate when it's obvious that you ignored the fact that McGregor is early into his career (which is why I used those early fights of Floyd as a comparison) and that we have yet to see when he reaches the age of 38 if he'll be as exciting a fighter he is right now.

But yeah, y'all go ahead and keep comparing the youngish career of Conor to a 38 year old Floyd.

I started outr liking Floyd a lot. But, he was never ever like Conor.

[Impractical Poster]

Hey Brut, go to the 30 minute mark and listen to what is being said and tell me it isn't true...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94w2lwU-To0

Sounds like he described Packy in that last fight with Floyd to a "T".

LOL... Wow!! You are in complete denial.