Open talk; stress on boxing administration in modern

[ImranSarwar]

Boxing is a Sport nearly totally ignored by the General print media in this, the modern times. You ever ask yourself why that is? I think I know why.

[ImranSarwar]

[01]Most of us here I presume are regular folk! I know I am a "regular folk". BUT...Don Trump a "regular folk" too, yeah? Well.. he ISN'T.
What I am trying to say is that we/ US we are "small time". But...everyone is a entity unto themselves. I am a "regular/& 'small time' guy........" with ambitions. Though it takes resources to achieve often at levels.
[& anyone can say of themselves.. they have integrity and are HONEST..and if you do not know them yourself/how are we gonna know? & it takes time to know someone..]
My ambition with Boxing is multi tier. I am very interested in the integrity and "health" of the SPORT.
I have involved as a amateur boxer (and -pro- four years/"red") & coach & >pioneer administrator< & "serious fan" ["names names names names names names names......."THAT IS BOXING!][the participant: "LOADS OF TOUGH & lonely & hard work.."][The Boxer is the Central Player..]
I see the SPORT these days as being expanded in a corrupt manner when the list for organizations "doubles in 20 years" from two (WBC/ WBA) to four (+IBF)(+WBO). And now you have a fifth group that has "weezled it's way" into the main-stream of the disconcerned and only added fuel to IGNORE BOXING/to the "general/in power" population ( << talking Print media here........)
Well..the LINE has to be drawn "somewhere". Better sooner than later. So I have formed MY WORK, the UWBCAFO-I which stands for United WBC WBA IBF WBO - "all other entities". I founded this work in March/2007 (paying myself one million$ a year. Nice "tab"/I've had ha ha! I just....write off the past years......as far a "personal finance")
& how I envision financing my work is/will like to toe her into business and industry besides. Have that be separate sector. DD; McDonald's; Dominos Pizza and other "Pizza" is a interest. But..I am "interested" in most INDUSTRY!
The UWBCAFO-I is..right now at an "advocacy" level only! I realize this! & I haven't been making even $9,000.00 for a number of years now. [What....I am healthy/happy & live good life pretty much..][takes "money" for ammunition, definitely!][or Christmas presents too! Etc. Etc. YOU being a "regular person" you should know all about the *money struggle!][NO ONE > giving < anything away except "pennies"][& I have my minor prides there....what good is it the sort of "debts" I have/am seeing....?: )] & so...I press my "advocacy". Like I am doing now.
What I am doing is I am "Echeloning" the SPORT. Two echelons one, & two. I am Registering the '2e'. After nearly nine years we thus far have none Registered.
I am asking the '1e' to make a NEW EFFORT to "close the ranks" against the Ibo. We have seen it a number of recent years Wlad. K. "holding" the plastic "Ibo" beside the REAL DEALS. & now, we are witness to same with the raise of Gennady Golovkin. I'm asking the First & major FOUR to SQUASH THEM. Do what ever it takes! First Rule of Thumb within the UWBCAFO-I is that "echelons never 'mix'"
A '2e' belt has the value of approximately FIVE (5) USA States. WE ARE FOR THEM! SUCH CAN BE A "GOOD" FOR THE SPORT! But.....we need truth in advertising! "Second echelon world championship" is a pre-requisite at the PROMOTIONS.
I have further by-laws to spell out here so, PLEASE STAND BY!
Note: have gone to the Ibo about this. They RUN FROM ME. Not "walk"/ > RUN <
Everyone wants to be "King Of the Hill", BUT....we need to be reasonable, fair, objective & disciplined. NO MORE ROOM FOR '1e' GOVERNING ORGANIZATIONS AFTER THE WBC WBA IBF & WBO. & I am just the ONE to be pronouncing that, too!
-Thank you-
Ps: Need a good law team for a 4 1/2 years Running Bus Exclusion here.....in Connecticut. WILL put 10% to the LAW PRO in a OOC ("out of Court") settlement. [Federal Civil Rights law-suit is something other. We can go there if we must]
1/5/16 Tues. (@ Armand's/Southington, CT)

[ImranSarwar]

Just to be clear. I use ImranSarwar as a handle prior to this handle. The Imran name is (at this point a "EX" boss) Ex-boss whom actually I set the registration up FOR HIM but....he never uses that so I finally only use it myself. Going back a little..I used the handle Bill Hodge. & under Bill Hodge I did a Off Topic about my "bus case". My real name is John Wilkinson, 53 fights amateur & pro. 25 (0/11)-27(3/3)-1 life-time (KO's/Rsc)(Rsc/ret) up ^

[ImranSarwar]

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FIRST RULE OF THUMB: Echelons don't mix.
2) Must advertise what you have as being 2Nd Echelon world championship. Optional to show "value". Value approx five U.S.A. States. *Optional to show "registration" (UWBCAFO-I) [IF YOU ARE A BOXING Governing organization and it isn't the WBC WBA IBF or the WBO, and you ARE NOT Registered with us then..you are FRAUD and that is how it is]
*cost $2.00 per fighter whole card. Hardship $/we will take faulting on that fee.
3) UWBCAFO-I basically represents the "strength" of the SPORT. We are a function of the '2e'. Therefore, '1e' IS NOT at all Governed by us. And.. our next rule per the Cruiserweight Div. though a "strict rule" at the '2e' level we are not "perturbed" when a '1e' group doesn't observe this. We are hard about that "rule". You can't be a '2e' organization and NOT observe the ruling. Cruiserweight Div. we have temporarily disqualified. ALL CRUISER WEIGHTS ARE HEAVYWEIGHTS. You can NOT be a '2e' entity and at any time engage a "Cruiserweight" competition. Now, if you would like to JOIN ME in a resetting of the weight structure, then....you will be more than "Welcome" to add it. We reset the "Cruiserweight" back to it's original setting of 195/190 lbs. champions choice. All VACS, = 190.
4) We are a governing institution lending the OVERSIGHT only to men's leagues of boxing. I do not myself personally have the depth of knowledge on woman's boxing. (I'd "suggest they gage"!)
5) We operate "mechanically". That is we have NO CALL on FASHIONS, or STYLES. If it is a UWBCAFO-I Recognized promotion and they also have a offensive ("or whatever") back drop somehow....please\DO NOT\\think/WE AGREE OR ENDORSE THE "STYLE". We never had any "control" there. Such falls on the PROMOTER.
6) UWBCAFO-I effects WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ONLY. "Mix" all you like in INTERCONTINENTAL or their equivalent.
7) Concerning the introduction of persons at a '2e' production. What if we had someone to introduce who, once upon a time, OR LIVE(?) held a IBU or IBO Title etc? Introduce them accordingly IF their entity has been registered by the UWBCAFO-I. Note: if it is a new registration we are going to need to make "note" of such at-the-introduction. If they ARE NOT registered then their can not be a reference to the entity in the least OR, please pre-submit the planned announcement. I'll look at it.
Only, we are gonna be CLEAR! I am "sorry" anyone's --feelings-- may get "hurt". Their are some/"quite good" boxers who held that "pink tickle" potential '2e' title before here and there. And, "good bodies or not" THEM ARE ONLY NUISANCE.
[Darnel Nicholson once defeated John Ruiz for a Ibo. The FIGHT "VERY RESPECTABLE". Still though, it only is adding more misery to the equation of things. The Ibo is UNNECESSARY. The Ibf following the WBC/ WBA is "unnecessary". We are dealing with what we have under "reasonable" conditions. I do NOT think it is "reasonable" to accept the Ibo under a '1e' designate.
The RANKS have been "closed".]
j.wilkinson, secretary/general & founder uwbcafo-i/since march/2007
25(0/11)-27(3/3)-1 pro-am; 17 tournaments won 7; 2nd 5x; out place 5x boxing tourney winners in four of those. Usareur & Ne (Ne 4x) the two larger tournaments (never been to the Nationals; though..FAME Dan Schommer of Minneapolis/St.Paul my closest "shadow"!). Established amateur: Lightmiddle weight/ 156lb.
From: NEW BRITAIN, CT. USA
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[Boxerbeetle]

Just to be clear. I use ImranSarwar as a handle prior to this handle. The Imran name is (at this point a "EX" boss) Ex-boss whom actually I set the registration up FOR HIM but....he never uses that so I finally only use it myself. Going back a little..I used the handle Bill Hodge. & under Bill Hodge I did a Off Topic about my "bus case". My real name is John Wilkinson, 53 fights amateur & pro. 25 (0/11)-27(3/3)-1 life-time (KO's/Rsc)(Rsc/ret) up ^

I'm not sure you need to clarify your former usernames - your writing style is a bit of a giveaway

[ImranSarwar]

I'm not sure you need to clarify your former usernames - your writing style is a bit of a giveaway

WELL....Thank you Boxerbeetle!

[lefty]

Bill you seem like a nice enough chap, however, you're clearly batshit insane.

[Baby Face Finster]

Bill you seem like a nice enough chap, however, you're clearly batshit insane.

I was thinking the same thing. What I think he is trying to say is there are too many damn belts and with that I think everyone on this board would wholeheartedly agree. The part that is batshit crazy is that he wants to create an organization with all the four major belts under his umbrella with him at the helm.

[MachoTime]

Just to be clear. I use ImranSarwar as a handle prior to this handle. The Imran name is (at this point a "EX" boss) Ex-boss whom actually I set the registration up FOR HIM but....he never uses that so I finally only use it myself. Going back a little..I used the handle Bill Hodge. & under Bill Hodge I did a Off Topic about my "bus case". My real name is John Wilkinson, 53 fights amateur & pro. 25 (0/11)-27(3/3)-1 life-time (KO's/Rsc)(Rsc/ret) up ^

I'm not sure you need to clarify your former usernames - your writing style is a bit of a giveaway

Let me think former username starts with a "B" (not Brut)

[ImranSarwar]

I was thinking the same thing. What I think he is trying to say is there are too many damn belts and with that I think everyone on this board would wholeheartedly agree. The part that is batshit crazy is that he wants to create an organization with all the four major belts under his umbrella with him at the helm. [/quote]
No. Not really. The intent and the focus is about the '2e' group here. '1e' I am prodding them, only, to gain a better unity!

[ImranSarwar]

NO......NOT REALLY...The intent and the focus is about the '2e' group here. '1e' I am prodding them, only, to gain a better unity![/quote]

[ImranSarwar]

[/quote]

Let me think former username starts with a "B" (not Brut)[/quote]
"Macho Time"! [he was a "great"!\\\R.I.P.\though..catch them killers!]

Yeah! You read on that that "case situation"?

Whatever could mean! Tell you, though.. I'm a kind of person I respect everyone (until they show me otherwise; then...since I am NOT a COP..I only "dismiss them") & actually/ I -LIKE- everyone to start out ("Everyone Start w/ me at a 100%" rating!]. Even I could be "kind hearted" to a person they could be full blown homosexual
& a heroin addict! [don't really --respect-- there...of course not/ but....I'm gonna be "kind" to the poor bloat if he talking normal conversation!] : )

[lefty]

Bill you seem like a nice enough chap, however, you're clearly batshit insane.

I was thinking the same thing. What I think he is trying to say is there are too many damn belts and with that I think everyone on this board would wholeheartedly agree. The part that is batshit crazy is that he wants to create an organization with all the four major belts under his umbrella with him at the helm.

Lol it's madness.

[Lennox]

The IBO are the best organisation of them all. Your choosing the wrong ones to support. What is your reason for not liking the IBO?

[ImranSarwar]

The IBO are the best organisation of them all. Your choosing the wrong ones to support. What is your reason for not liking the IBO?

How long you involve?

[ImranSarwar]

The IBO are the best organisation of them all. Your choosing the wrong ones to support. What is your reason for not liking the IBO?

How long you involve?

Do you think Boxing really needs FOUR Organizations??

[ImranSarwar]

Bill you seem like a nice enough chap, however, you're clearly batshit insane.

I was thinking the same thing. What I think he is trying to say is there are too many damn belts and with that I think everyone on this board would wholeheartedly agree. The part that is batshit crazy is that he wants to create an organization with all the four major belts under his umbrella with him at the helm.

Lol it's madness.

Wild card, Joking!

[Lennox]

The IBO are the best organisation of them all. Your choosing the wrong ones to support. What is your reason for not liking the IBO?

How long you involve?

Do you think Boxing really needs FOUR Organizations??

Been involved in Boxing 26 years, worked for the IBO for 15 years.
I think 2 boxing organisations is one too many but each new one tries to repair the mistakes of the other. The IBO have good principles.

[ImranSarwar]

How long you involve?

Do you think Boxing really needs FOUR Organizations??

Been involved in Boxing 26 years, worked for the IBO for 15 years.
I think 2 boxing organisations is one too many but each new one tries to repair the mistakes of the other. The IBO have good principles.

Well I hope I can win- YOU OVER/ Lennox! Your Right we only need one organization. But have to > deal with < the "establishment". Where does that leave your Ibo? That would make them No.5 coming up.
My boy Pito Cardona won a "Ibo" vintage....around 1995 I would say. That was in them days before even one "media type" takes them serious. & I never back then ever hear Israel SAY ONE WORD about him being, "world champion".
Ibo used...."smart PR" to gain an ADVANTAGE. Do you remember that? They hired Antonio Tarver to sit in. This was at Tarvers HEIGHT and SOON AFTER THE FIRST TWO MATCHES VS ROY.
Ibo has been "praised" for having COMPETENT RATINGS.
We go back to that question Do We really need FOUR GOVERNING ORGANIZATIONS? Of course we do NOT! Therefore we CERTAIN are not needing FIVE.
No. You are mistaken reasons you give about "covering others mistakes"! HA! "Good Try"! But, true I bet....they THINK they can do a better job(?) //maybe? But come one! How does this all look in "world perspective?" Ibo has "grown up"? Grown up into WHAT? To become a truly "competing force" in an already congested field?
You are involved with the SPORT 26 years and I am involved about 49 years. Guess what? My "work" of the UWBCAFO-I is a REAL WORK. I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING HERE! And...we are "echeloning" the Sport.
I've already gone @ your Entity. They RACE away from me! Of course it is a "natural" they WANT TO BE KING OF THE HILL! But...that is NOT, "smart or sophisticated!"
But for the sake of the SPORT/we do need to draw a LINE. I have drawn that line and it is '1e' w/ WBC WBA IBF & WBO. '2e' potential for IBO IBC NBA WBF WBU WAA. The UWBCAFO-I is to regulate the '2e'. You read me the value there, hey?
We need UNITY in the Sport. I am dismayed that the first & major four been allowing the "IBO" to be in possession of first Wlad. Klitschko and the more recent, Gennady Golovkin. [Obviously these TWO do not have "rank and time" in grade! But.....WHY HASN'T THAT BEEN DISRUPTED?]["what sort of SABOTAGE have we been HIT WITH?"]
So..I counter YOUR STATEMENT HERE. Obviously I am YOUR Senior. Not too many folk with my same "time in grade" are going to try to argue this matter with me. We can even keep going if you like.
My work is "revolutionary". It is RELEVANT. The IBO Certain is a "cancer" in modern. The concept is CANCER. What? It is "good" to have 9 governing organizations? IF YOU FORMERLY EMPLOYED FOR THE IBO [from the start, it sounds....] then, I'm certain YOU wish the LINE be drawn AFTER the IBO! Someone else say AFTER THE IBF. Someone else is gonna SAY//AFTER BOTH THE IBO AND THE IBC. I CALL THIS WITH THE UNITED WBC WBA IBF WBO (dash) I. Est. March/2007. You like to work for the betterment of the Sport and we will "be on the same page"/LET ME KNOW!

[ImranSarwar]

[fixed there; "JohnWilkinson yet learning the ropes here"! : )]

[ImranSarwar]

^ ^ but come on....How does this all look in world perspective?

[Tomasino]

^ ^ but come on....How does this all look in world perspective?

It looks kind of strange.

[ImranSarwar]

^ ^ but come on....How does this all look in world perspective?

It looks kind of strange.

Thank YOU/ Tomasino. That's why I have formed what I have!

[Lennox]

I agree 1 organisation is better but it is not going to happen. So I think the more the better as each dilutes the other 'titles'. I don't think it really matters anymore with the WBA having 3 champions at each weight, the WBC, IBF, IBO and WBO make 7 champions in most weight classes, let it be 8 or 9 it does not matter. We are getting lots of unifications, boxing is on the up at the moment.

This is my work now. I formed the Premier Boxing Organisation with a few others. www.premierboxingorganisation.com

[ImranSarwar]

I agree 1 organisation is better but it is not going to happen. So I think the more the better as each dilutes the other 'titles'. I don't think it really matters anymore with the WBA having 3 champions at each weight, the WBC, IBF, IBO and WBO make 7 champions in most weight classes, let it be 8 or 9 it does not matter. We are getting lots of unifications, boxing is on the up at the moment.

This is my work now. I formed the Premier Boxing Organisation with a few others. http://www.premierboxingorganisation.com

Man! You are "going to Hell!"\\\\\
I'm glad you bring that up about the WBA. It's a idiocentricity. I don't "agree" with it. But, it ISN'T THE CENTRAL PROBLEM! I look at it and if I am writing the a.t. history I "ignore" any champion who isn't their "first place". REALLY SIMPLE THING!
I have no problem with their being such and such number of "second echelon" organizations. IF YOUR "new" group wish to size up with me it is possible you become a leader in the industry. I'm open if you are -open- but.....our very simple rules are strict rules.
It is the only way that BOXING as a SPORT will not become a "LAUGHING STOCK".
& what you say about Boxing "position". On Top of the world? Hardly that! You look into the Sports pages of any ("ANY") newspaper? Boxing hardly exists, man. Except for the very big time fighters and even there it'll "skip".
Lay down your cards. I truly am the "GodOfBoxing" in this! : )