Golovkin-Saunders is off - negotiations are dead

[Aaronide_ger]

http://www.BS.com/golovkin-sau ... ut--100391

BJS Just ducked Golovkin, another champion that heads to another direction..

Golovkin vs Johnson will happen instead in April 23rd.. In my opinion a mismatch but its the mandatory of Golovkin, IBF better choose a better opponent next time.

[Horse]

The IBF.

[Chepppaaa]

saunders is no opponent for ggg glad nego are death.

canelo...lara...jacobs....one of those 3 should be nextfr ggg!!!!

his career needs a boost.

[Aaronide_ger]

saunders is no opponent for ggg glad nego are death.

canelo...lara...jacobs....one of those 3 should be nextfr ggg!!!!

his career needs a boost.

Lara has done nothing at 160, and if he chose to fight him next IBF would strip Golovkin for not fighting his Mandatory, on the other hand BJS is a world champion and IBF allows unifications over Mandatories, its a win win situation if the fight was made but its not.

Jacobs is also a paper champion, his WBA regular title means nothing, BJS is a real champion (Although I believe Jacobs beats Saunders). So Fightiing BJS would be a step close to becoming an undisputed champion of the world while fighting Jacobs or Lara would result in a strip..

[Boxing Prospect]

Could Lara or Jacobs fight on HBO....

[Tarkus]

Could Lara or Jacobs fight on HBO....

Jacobs has shown every intention to continue Quillins great tradition of ducking GGG and everybody else.

Lara though might fight in HBO. I think its a good opponent for Golovkin.

[sucracristo]

saunders will lose that title first legit top 10 guy he faces, for a fraction of
what he could make losing it to GGG

[caldo2025]

BJS deserves his victory lap. He just won the darn thing so let him have one or two easy defenses like every other new champion is allowed before throwing him in there with the best fighter the MW division ever saw. Jacobs vs GGG interests me though. I think that Jacobs could give GGG the toughest fight of anyone right now. He's big, fast and strong and has enormous heart. That's a fight that would GGG's toughest imo.

[keirw]

Saunders can make decent money fighting much more beatable opponents and will only risk facing a beast like GGG if the money is too good to refuse.

[Reece_D]

I really really like Billy Joe, comes across as a proper good bloke but this is a another duck against Golovkin (not blaming BJS, was probably more to do with F Warren). Every boxing fan should of wanted to see this fight to see someone who is old school trying to unify a division. Feel for GGG that he is too good that no one is willing to fight him.

[Horse]

saunders will lose that title first legit top 10 guy he faces, for a fraction of
what he could make losing it to GGG

Lee was top 10.

[expe]

I really really like Billy Joe, comes across as a proper good bloke but this is a another duck against Golovkin (not blaming BJS, was probably more to do with F Warren). Every boxing fan should of wanted to see this fight to see someone who is old school trying to unify a division. Feel for GGG that he is too good that no one is willing to fight him.

No one wants to fight Golovkin because he doesn't bring enough money to the table, something that some of his fans are unable to understand. Other middleweights do actually exist and are capable of making just as much or more in other fights. When that's the case, as it almost always has been, they're not going to take a fight with him and it isn't because they're scared or they're ducking him, it's because boxing is a business and they're looking for the fights that leave them with the highest amount of money in the bank when they retire.

[Andrew]

saunders will lose that title first legit top 10 guy he faces, for a fraction of
what he could make losing it to GGG

The guy he beat for the title was a legit top 10 middleweight

Will take an exceptional fighter to beat BJS.

[crusader]

saunders will lose that title first legit top 10 guy he faces, for a fraction of
what he could make losing it to GGG

The guy he beat for the title was a legit top 10 middleweight

Will take an exceptional fighter to beat BJS.

Which middleweights do you consider exceptional?

BJS is good but nothing special IMO...he was getting tossed around late by a green Eubank and only just squeaked by Lee due to the KDs. Then again, the depth at MW isn't great so he's still probably top 3-5.

[Nightmare Roy]

BJS deserves his victory lap. He just won the darn thing so let him have one or two easy defenses like every other new champion is allowed before throwing him in there with the best fighter the MW division ever saw. Jacobs vs GGG interests me though. I think that Jacobs could give GGG the toughest fight of anyone right now. He's big, fast and strong and has enormous heart. That's a fight that would GGG's toughest imo.

Exactly I've never known a fighter win his first world title and then defend against the P4P #1 in his first defence, the fight can wait a while.

[gilgamesh]

Never seemed like it was really on in the first place. Saunders has made it quite clear he wants no part of Golovkin

[Nightmare Roy]

Never seemed like it was really on in the first place. Saunders has made it quite clear he wants no part of Golovkin

He'd fight him tomorrow if he got the sort of money Hatton did against Floyd, it's just not there right now.

[littlepug]

BJS deserves his victory lap. He just won the darn thing so let him have one or two easy defenses like every other new champion is allowed before throwing him in there with the best fighter the MW division ever saw. Jacobs vs GGG interests me though. I think that Jacobs could give GGG the toughest fight of anyone right now. He's big, fast and strong and has enormous heart. That's a fight that would GGG's toughest imo.

Exactly I've never known a fighter win his first world title and then defend against the P4P #1 in his first defence, the fight can wait a while.

Really ? can't have been following the sport for long then because I've seen it several times

[Kingfield]

I really really like Billy Joe, comes across as a proper good bloke but this is a another duck against Golovkin (not blaming BJS, was probably more to do with F Warren). Every boxing fan should of wanted to see this fight to see someone who is old school trying to unify a division. Feel for GGG that he is too good that no one is willing to fight him.

No one wants to fight Golovkin because he doesn't bring enough money to the table, something that some of his fans are unable to understand. Other middleweights do actually exist and are capable of making just as much or more in other fights. When that's the case, as it almost always has been, they're not going to take a fight with him and it isn't because they're scared or they're ducking him, it's because boxing is a business and they're looking for the fights that leave them with the highest amount of money in the bank when they retire.

I think bringing £3m to the table, is enough.

I dont see who BJS can fight and get anywhere near that money.

[expe]

I really really like Billy Joe, comes across as a proper good bloke but this is a another duck against Golovkin (not blaming BJS, was probably more to do with F Warren). Every boxing fan should of wanted to see this fight to see someone who is old school trying to unify a division. Feel for GGG that he is too good that no one is willing to fight him.

No one wants to fight Golovkin because he doesn't bring enough money to the table, something that some of his fans are unable to understand. Other middleweights do actually exist and are capable of making just as much or more in other fights. When that's the case, as it almost always has been, they're not going to take a fight with him and it isn't because they're scared or they're ducking him, it's because boxing is a business and they're looking for the fights that leave them with the highest amount of money in the bank when they retire.

I think bringing £3m to the table, is enough.

I dont see who BJS can fight and get anywhere near that money.

We don't know what the offer was, various figures have been quoted and certain people have decided to run with the highest of them, which was around $3m. He makes that fighting Eubank again, so why take a harder fight on the road for the same money he can get at home. The Golovkin fight will still be there waiting for him down the line when the time's right anyway.

[crusader]

How much did he make for the first Eubank fight? What about the Lee fight?

What is your basis for claiming that he'd make $3m if he fought Eubank again?

[caldo2025]

BJS deserves his victory lap. He just won the darn thing so let him have one or two easy defenses like every other new champion is allowed before throwing him in there with the best fighter the MW division ever saw. Jacobs vs GGG interests me though. I think that Jacobs could give GGG the toughest fight of anyone right now. He's big, fast and strong and has enormous heart. That's a fight that would GGG's toughest imo.

Exactly I've never known a fighter win his first world title and then defend against the P4P #1 in his first defence, the fight can wait a while.

Really ? can't have been following the sport for long then because I've seen it several times

We've definitely seen it happen, I agree. But the new age of boxing, winning a belt unfortunately means that the boxer gets to enjoy the new belt for a little bit and parade around before defending it against the #1 contender like they did back in the day. I hate it too but it's just the way the sports gone. I'm happy that we are hearing a little more about "mandatories" though now and champions living up to their obligations. But now the problem with that is that most of the mandatory fights demanded by these organizations make ZERO SENSE. There's a million agendas in the sport and you VERY rarely see an organization designating a worthy mandatory. In the rare cases they do, champions now have the ability to pay that mandatory challenger a sum of money instead of fighting him. It's a joke. The whole thing's a joke.

[Andrew]

saunders will lose that title first legit top 10 guy he faces, for a fraction of
what he could make losing it to GGG

The guy he beat for the title was a legit top 10 middleweight

Will take an exceptional fighter to beat BJS.

Which middleweights do you consider exceptional?

BJS is good but nothing special IMO...he was getting tossed around late by a green Eubank and only just squeaked by Lee due to the KDs. Then again, the depth at MW isn't great so he's still probably top 3-5.

GGG

[littlepug]

Fair post caldo

[crusader]

The guy he beat for the title was a legit top 10 middleweight

Will take an exceptional fighter to beat BJS.

Which middleweights do you consider exceptional?

BJS is good but nothing special IMO...he was getting tossed around late by a green Eubank and only just squeaked by Lee due to the KDs. Then again, the depth at MW isn't great so he's still probably top 3-5.

GGG

Would you be surprised if Alvarez or Jacobs beat BJS, assuming they fought?