Tyson Fury

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Re: Tyson Fury

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This forum seems to have gained lots of trolls, casuals and petty squabblers since I rejoined. It's like a pantomime.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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Stevieb8006 wrote:This forum seems to have gained lots of trolls, casuals and petty squabblers since I rejoined. It's like a pantomime.
Oh no it isn't.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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Boxerbeetle wrote:
Stevieb8006 wrote:This forum seems to have gained lots of trolls, casuals and petty squabblers since I rejoined. It's like a pantomime.
Oh no it isn't.
Very good BB
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Re: Tyson Fury

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Horse wrote:
rd350lc wrote:His opinions are plentyful , but the trouble is he does not respect anybody else's .
Some opinions do not deserve respect.
Errr.... like yours. :TU:
Haha,its good to av difference of opinions but wen you get called mong or get told to fucken stroll on because someone doesnt agree with what you say then what do people expect you to do? Sit there and take it? Dont think so call me and ill call you back,just because i dont agree that fury is the best boxer of this year last year this time or that time doesnt mean i hate him or im a troll its just my opinion,there are ways to disagree with someon ya know without throwing mud at them. Iv watched boxing for the best part of 30 years and iv had differences of opinions with lads in the boxing gym doesnt mean u call names,i picked danny williams to beat mike tyson and told a tyson fan in the gym he looked at me and said "are you having a laugh" its not about not liking mike tyson its was about the timing and the age of tyson,plus his performances and what he was saying before the fight,like he was only in it for the money now cause he has tax bills etc. I also picked margarito to beat cotto because of the styles,didnt know he had loaded gloves tho,margarito tall loves the uppercut and is one tough man,cotto has the peak a boo style and i thought the uppercuts would sicken him. I also picked fury to beat klitschko because of the styles as iv said in previous posts,im not a fury hater just think some ppl are going over the top with him. Some ppl probably said the same to ali fans back in the day or holmes fans back in his day. Time will tell and if fury beats wlad in the rematch and beats wilder ill eat my words,i think its possible he can do that but i also think its very possible he could get beat by both. I mean no malice to anyone just avin a debate ok chaps :TU:
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Re: Tyson Fury

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Boxerbeetle wrote:
Stevieb8006 wrote:This forum seems to have gained lots of trolls, casuals and petty squabblers since I rejoined. It's like a pantomime.
Oh no it isn't.
Haha
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Re: Tyson Fury

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thechump wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Horse wrote:Some opinions do not deserve respect.
Errr.... like yours. :TU:
Haha,its good to av difference of opinions but wen you get called mong or get told to fucken stroll on because someone doesnt agree with what you say then what do people expect you to do? Sit there and take it? Dont think so call me and ill call you back,just because i dont agree that fury is the best boxer of this year last year this time or that time doesnt mean i hate him or im a troll its just my opinion,there are ways to disagree with someon ya know without throwing mud at them. Iv watched boxing for the best part of 30 years and iv had differences of opinions with lads in the boxing gym doesnt mean u call names,i picked danny williams to beat mike tyson and told a tyson fan in the gym he looked at me and said "are you having a laugh" its not about not liking mike tyson its was about the timing and the age of tyson,plus his performances and what he was saying before the fight,like he was only in it for the money now cause he has tax bills etc. I also picked margarito to beat cotto because of the styles,didnt know he had loaded gloves tho,margarito tall loves the uppercut and is one tough man,cotto has the peak a boo style and i thought the uppercuts would sicken him. I also picked fury to beat klitschko because of the styles as iv said in previous posts,im not a fury hater just think some ppl are going over the top with him. Some ppl probably said the same to ali fans back in the day or holmes fans back in his day. Time will tell and if fury beats wlad in the rematch and beats wilder ill eat my words,i think its possible he can do that but i also think its very possible he could get beat by both. I mean no malice to anyone just avin a debate ok chaps :TU:
I agree. I'm a Fury fan, have been from day one. Posted on here before the first Chisora fight that Tyson was going to be the World Champion. I'm a fan, but I'm not blind. I post that he'd lose to Povetkin, Haye and Ortiz and suddenly I'm 'not a true fan' or 'a troll'. I've got no time for some of the wankers on here and I'm close to jacking it in. It's a shame, because there are some great posters and some genuinely nice people on here.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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FrozenMixedVegtables wrote:
thechump wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Errr.... like yours. :TU:
Haha,its good to av difference of opinions but wen you get called mong or get told to fucken stroll on because someone doesnt agree with what you say then what do people expect you to do? Sit there and take it? Dont think so call me and ill call you back,just because i dont agree that fury is the best boxer of this year last year this time or that time doesnt mean i hate him or im a troll its just my opinion,there are ways to disagree with someon ya know without throwing mud at them. Iv watched boxing for the best part of 30 years and iv had differences of opinions with lads in the boxing gym doesnt mean u call names,i picked danny williams to beat mike tyson and told a tyson fan in the gym he looked at me and said "are you having a laugh" its not about not liking mike tyson its was about the timing and the age of tyson,plus his performances and what he was saying before the fight,like he was only in it for the money now cause he has tax bills etc. I also picked margarito to beat cotto because of the styles,didnt know he had loaded gloves tho,margarito tall loves the uppercut and is one tough man,cotto has the peak a boo style and i thought the uppercuts would sicken him. I also picked fury to beat klitschko because of the styles as iv said in previous posts,im not a fury hater just think some ppl are going over the top with him. Some ppl probably said the same to ali fans back in the day or holmes fans back in his day. Time will tell and if fury beats wlad in the rematch and beats wilder ill eat my words,i think its possible he can do that but i also think its very possible he could get beat by both. I mean no malice to anyone just avin a debate ok chaps :TU:
Good post :TU:
Cheers mixedveg just thought id throw that at some ppl as i think they wer gettin the choppin block ready for my neck haha
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Re: Tyson Fury

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I think it's great that Fury helped himself to the bar, gave loads of abuse out and got in Wilder's face.

He's entertaining and gives everyone something to talk about.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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G0mez wrote:I think it's great that Fury helped himself to the bar, gave loads of abuse out and got in Wilder's face.

He's entertaining and gives everyone something to talk about.
Don't you think Wilder had the right to an uninterrupted interview?
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Re: Tyson Fury

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
G0mez wrote:I think it's great that Fury helped himself to the bar, gave loads of abuse out and got in Wilder's face.

He's entertaining and gives everyone something to talk about.
Don't you think Wilder had the right to an uninterrupted interview?

The Yanks will lap all that up, they love the bravado from Fury.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
G0mez wrote:I think it's great that Fury helped himself to the bar, gave loads of abuse out and got in Wilder's face.

He's entertaining and gives everyone something to talk about.
Don't you think Wilder had the right to an uninterrupted interview?
I dont think jim gray expected fury would do that tho ha,fury went completely over the top imo,the yanks do love all that but proper ott from mr fury
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Re: Tyson Fury

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
thechump wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Errr.... like yours. :TU:
Haha,its good to av difference of opinions but wen you get called mong or get told to fucken stroll on because someone doesnt agree with what you say then what do people expect you to do? Sit there and take it? Dont think so call me and ill call you back,just because i dont agree that fury is the best boxer of this year last year this time or that time doesnt mean i hate him or im a troll its just my opinion,there are ways to disagree with someon ya know without throwing mud at them. Iv watched boxing for the best part of 30 years and iv had differences of opinions with lads in the boxing gym doesnt mean u call names,i picked danny williams to beat mike tyson and told a tyson fan in the gym he looked at me and said "are you having a laugh" its not about not liking mike tyson its was about the timing and the age of tyson,plus his performances and what he was saying before the fight,like he was only in it for the money now cause he has tax bills etc. I also picked margarito to beat cotto because of the styles,didnt know he had loaded gloves tho,margarito tall loves the uppercut and is one tough man,cotto has the peak a boo style and i thought the uppercuts would sicken him. I also picked fury to beat klitschko because of the styles as iv said in previous posts,im not a fury hater just think some ppl are going over the top with him. Some ppl probably said the same to ali fans back in the day or holmes fans back in his day. Time will tell and if fury beats wlad in the rematch and beats wilder ill eat my words,i think its possible he can do that but i also think its very possible he could get beat by both. I mean no malice to anyone just avin a debate ok chaps :TU:
I agree. I'm a Fury fan, have been from day one. Posted on here before the first Chisora fight that Tyson was going to be the World Champion. I'm a fan, but I'm not blind. I post that he'd lose to Povetkin, Haye and Ortiz and suddenly I'm 'not a true fan' or 'a troll'. I've got no time for some of the wankers on here and I'm close to jacking it in. It's a shame, because there are some great posters and some genuinely nice people on here.
Don't jack it moony , but do you not think that if Haye struggled to land on Klitschko that he would not have even more trouble with the dancing / singing one ?
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Re: Tyson Fury

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rd350lc wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I agree. I'm a Fury fan, have been from day one. Posted on here before the first Chisora fight that Tyson was going to be the World Champion. I'm a fan, but I'm not blind. I post that he'd lose to Povetkin, Haye and Ortiz and suddenly I'm 'not a true fan' or 'a troll'. I've got no time for some of the wankers on here and I'm close to jacking it in. It's a shame, because there are some great posters and some genuinely nice people on here.
Don't jack it moony , but do you not think that if Haye struggled to land on Klitschko that he would not have even more trouble with the dancing / singing one ?
Styles make fights. Fury did great against Klitschko, but Haye is a different thing altogether. Fury is chinny and Haye would hit that thin clean.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
rd350lc wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I agree. I'm a Fury fan, have been from day one. Posted on here before the first Chisora fight that Tyson was going to be the World Champion. I'm a fan, but I'm not blind. I post that he'd lose to Povetkin, Haye and Ortiz and suddenly I'm 'not a true fan' or 'a troll'. I've got no time for some of the wankers on here and I'm close to jacking it in. It's a shame, because there are some great posters and some genuinely nice people on here.
Don't jack it moony , but do you not think that if Haye struggled to land on Klitschko that he would not have even more trouble with the dancing / singing one ?
Styles make fights. Fury did great against Klitschko, but Haye is a different thing altogether. Fury is chinny and Haye would hit that thin clean.
I was thinking more of how ineffective Haye was against a "big" heavyweight , struggling to get anything clean off.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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rd350lc wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
thechump wrote:
Haha,its good to av difference of opinions but wen you get called mong or get told to fucken stroll on because someone doesnt agree with what you say then what do people expect you to do? Sit there and take it? Dont think so call me and ill call you back,just because i dont agree that fury is the best boxer of this year last year this time or that time doesnt mean i hate him or im a troll its just my opinion,there are ways to disagree with someon ya know without throwing mud at them. Iv watched boxing for the best part of 30 years and iv had differences of opinions with lads in the boxing gym doesnt mean u call names,i picked danny williams to beat mike tyson and told a tyson fan in the gym he looked at me and said "are you having a laugh" its not about not liking mike tyson its was about the timing and the age of tyson,plus his performances and what he was saying before the fight,like he was only in it for the money now cause he has tax bills etc. I also picked margarito to beat cotto because of the styles,didnt know he had loaded gloves tho,margarito tall loves the uppercut and is one tough man,cotto has the peak a boo style and i thought the uppercuts would sicken him. I also picked fury to beat klitschko because of the styles as iv said in previous posts,im not a fury hater just think some ppl are going over the top with him. Some ppl probably said the same to ali fans back in the day or holmes fans back in his day. Time will tell and if fury beats wlad in the rematch and beats wilder ill eat my words,i think its possible he can do that but i also think its very possible he could get beat by both. I mean no malice to anyone just avin a debate ok chaps :TU:
I agree. I'm a Fury fan, have been from day one. Posted on here before the first Chisora fight that Tyson was going to be the World Champion. I'm a fan, but I'm not blind. I post that he'd lose to Povetkin, Haye and Ortiz and suddenly I'm 'not a true fan' or 'a troll'. I've got no time for some of the wankers on here and I'm close to jacking it in. It's a shame, because there are some great posters and some genuinely nice people on here.
Don't jack it moony , but do you not think that if Haye struggled to land on Klitschko that he would not have even more trouble with the dancing / singing one ?
I think haye got phsyced out by wlad in the last few days,like someone said on skybox office that night wen fury beat wlad the bully got bullied
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Re: Tyson Fury

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rd350lc wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
rd350lc wrote:
Don't jack it moony , but do you not think that if Haye struggled to land on Klitschko that he would not have even more trouble with the dancing / singing one ?
Styles make fights. Fury did great against Klitschko, but Haye is a different thing altogether. Fury is chinny and Haye would hit that thin clean.
I was thinking more of how ineffective Haye was against a "big" heavyweight , struggling to get anything clean off.
I agree, but all boxers are different. Fury's defence isn't as good as Klitschko's was when he fought Haye, Fury doesn't hit as hard as Klitschko back then.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
rd350lc wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:I agree. I'm a Fury fan, have been from day one. Posted on here before the first Chisora fight that Tyson was going to be the World Champion. I'm a fan, but I'm not blind. I post that he'd lose to Povetkin, Haye and Ortiz and suddenly I'm 'not a true fan' or 'a troll'. I've got no time for some of the wankers on here and I'm close to jacking it in. It's a shame, because there are some great posters and some genuinely nice people on here.
Don't jack it moony , but do you not think that if Haye struggled to land on Klitschko that he would not have even more trouble with the dancing / singing one ?
Styles make fights. Fury did great against Klitschko, but Haye is a different thing altogether. Fury is chinny and Haye would hit that thin clean.
Keithmoonhangover speaks a lot of sense.

The Fury fanboys on here are as bad as any fanboys I've seen.

I'm glad Fury won, it was a poor fight but a massive achievement.

I think Fury beats Wilder, as long as he doesnt fornicate about and get tagged because for all his faults Wilder can punch.

For what its worth I think Fury could possibly beat Haye, the same way he beat Klit, but I wouldn't be amazed if Haye sparked him. Haye is as chinny as Fury, thats for sure. I don't actually think Fury is chinny. He can get caught and he can go down, but he just gets up and carries on. When Haye gets tagged he doesn't.

I think Povetkin and beat them both. I think Ortiz can beat all three, because he is a man who really can box and he has natural power and an array of shots. His footwork is sublime for a HW.

I also believe that Wlad will win a rematch with Fury, which may well make all of this hot air and a little bit of fantasy.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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I meant to say that a mobile Haye (maybe around 215lbs) beats Wilder.
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CharlesListon wrote:When Haye gets tagged he doesn't.
Not disagreeing, but he was stopped on his feet against Solis and Thompson, and he got back up against everyone else.
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Grilling Machine wrote:
CharlesListon wrote:When Haye gets tagged he doesn't.
Not disagreeing, but he was stopped on his feet against Solis and Thompson, and he got back up against everyone else. I'd say vulnerable rather than chinny.
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CharlesListon wrote:When Haye gets tagged he doesn't.
Not disagreeing, but he was stopped on his feet against Solis and Thompson, and he got back up against everyone else. I'd say vulnerable rather than chinny. Same as Fury.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
rd350lc wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Styles make fights. Fury did great against Klitschko, but Haye is a different thing altogether. Fury is chinny and Haye would hit that thin clean.
I was thinking more of how ineffective Haye was against a "big" heavyweight , struggling to get anything clean off.
I agree, but all boxers are different. Fury's defence isn't as good as Klitschko's was when he fought Haye, Fury doesn't hit as hard as Klitschko back then.
I suppose Fury will never hit as hard as some of the real KO artists cos' he's never standing still long enough to set himself for real humdingers and thought his defence was one of his strong points , times he was playing with Klitschko, dropping both hands , but maybe old father time has caught up with him and he just couldn't put it on Fury, I guess the rematch will tell us lots .
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Re: Tyson Fury

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I see what your saying but I still think he's chinnier than Fury.

He's been dropped and stopped by crusiers (Jim Twite in the ams and Thompson), and dropped by Mormeck and was very gun shy against Wlad.

I know Fury has been on his arse (including blown up cruiser Cunningham) but I just don't think he is as chinny.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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But then it possibly equals out with Haye's power versus Fury's. Fury needs his reach, and Haye needs his former fleet-footedness. Chisora's handspeed isn't too bad, but his feet were too slow for Fury in their rematch.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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Grilling Machine wrote:But then it possibly equals out with Haye's power versus Fury's. Fury needs his reach, and Haye needs his fleet-footedness of old. Chisora's handspeed isn't too bad, but his feet were too slow for Fury in their rematch.
the Chisora rematch was a real one sided affair and he took a real pasting , was sickening towards the end .
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