Anyone else surprised by how long it took Wilder to stop Szpilka?

[keirw]

Wilder definitely has plenty of power, but he seemed to struggle to Szpilkas style.

Szpilka was throwing that sweeping left hand and leaving himself wide open constantly from the word go, Wilder had the presence of mind to block most of them but it took him until the ninth to realize that it was the perfect time to throw a right hand of his own.

[SenorPipino]

I said Povetkin has no business in the ring with Wilder based on skills, not whether or not that Russian is a mandatory.

If Povetkin is Wilder's Next Victim in Waiting, so be it. Let them tangle. I'm all for it.

It will be just another demolition job by the Bronze Bomber and many of you will be crying "So what? Who did Povetkin ever beat? Wilder is still a bum."

And you'll keep screaming that even after Wilder retires unbeaten--having destroyed all the current slugs in the woeful heavyweight division, including those British lugs you drool over.

Deontay Wilder---making the heavyweight division great again. (My apologies to Donald Trump for toying with his catch-phrase)

[HomicideHenry]

Not really, considering the Molina fight and the Duhapas fight. The Pole was better than those two men, and a southpaw. All I could think when watching it was if only.... he was Tyson Fury's height.... then we would see something like the Fury/Klitschko contest, with Wilder not being able to get shots off. The fight only demonstrates to me that Wilder is, still, not ready for Klitschko or Fury either one. I'd speculate that Haye would beat him. Hell, maybe even Joshua would beat him.

[ElJefe]

There's nothing wrong with the force of Wilder's punches, his physical strength or athleticism; it's his shocking ineptitude in every single other facet of the game that allowed Szpilka to last so long.

Nail on the head. If Wilder lands regularly, he has the power to KO anyone. Problem is he doesn't have the skill to land regularly.

[Deadendgeneration]

I said Povetkin has no business in the ring with Wilder based on skills, not whether or not that Russian is a mandatory.

If Povetkin is Wilder's Next Victim in Waiting, so be it. Let them tangle. I'm all for it.

It will be just another demolition job by the Bronze Bomber and many of you will be crying "So what? Who did Povetkin ever beat? Wilder is still a bum."

And you'll keep screaming that even after Wilder retires unbeaten--having destroyed all the current slugs in the woeful heavyweight division, including those British lugs you drool over.

Deontay Wilder---making the heavyweight division great again. (My apologies to Donald Trump for toying with his catch-phrase)

What skill? Wilder is fast/athletic, tall with a long reach and has great power. But his "s'kill" level doesn't compare favourably with Povetkin's.

[Badhusker]

I said Povetkin has no business in the ring with Wilder based on skills, not whether or not that Russian is a mandatory.

If Povetkin is Wilder's Next Victim in Waiting, so be it. Let them tangle. I'm all for it.

It will be just another demolition job by the Bronze Bomber and many of you will be crying "So what? Who did Povetkin ever beat? Wilder is still a bum."

And you'll keep screaming that even after Wilder retires unbeaten--having destroyed all the current slugs in the woeful heavyweight division, including those British lugs you drool over.

Deontay Wilder---making the heavyweight division great again. (My apologies to Donald Trump for toying with his catch-phrase)

[gilgamesh]

I said Povetkin has no business in the ring with Wilder based on skills, not whether or not that Russian is a mandatory.

If Povetkin is Wilder's Next Victim in Waiting, so be it. Let them tangle. I'm all for it.

It will be just another demolition job by the Bronze Bomber and many of you will be crying "So what? Who did Povetkin ever beat? Wilder is still a bum."

And you'll keep screaming that even after Wilder retires unbeaten--having destroyed all the current slugs in the woeful heavyweight division, including those British lugs you drool over.

Deontay Wilder---making the heavyweight division great again. (My apologies to Donald Trump for toying with his catch-phrase)

Povetkin knocks out Wilder I figure. Szpilka was well ahead of Wilder in my opinion on the cards heading into the 9th, and he's not known as a particularly slick Boxer, but he was making Wilder miss and giving him trouble all night.

Anything Szpilka can do, Povetkin does better. Including punching power and ability to take a punch.

I think he beats Wilder...to be honest. I think he beats him pretty easy. Povetkin KO 4 or 5 if it happens.....though I doubt very highly it will. Daddy Al will make Wilder drop the belt, and fight Charles Martin for the IBF Title. Wilder will be all too happy to oblige because it'll mean he's got an easier fight next time out.

[danamba7]

Wilder has legit KO power thats for sure.

But when he steps into the ring with a guy like Tyson Fury he is going to lose every single round, did you see how wild he was? He was letting himself open so many times and actually looked a little bit gased by the 9th round with the Polish fighter being fresher.

Wilder has skills, but he really doesnt know how to use them. His Jab is very good but he rarely used it in the fight, when he did he was in total control, I actually had Szpilka ahead 5-3 at the time of the stoppage and was really looking forward to go to those final rounds.. Wilder really has not chance against Fury-Ortiz-Haye

Let's not get confused.

Tyson had a beautiful game plan for Wlad.

But it wasn't like he was poetry in motion; he was awkward as hell beating Klitschko too.

And the blueprint Tyson used for Wlad wont work on Wilder or any of the other heavies.

Because, unlike Wlad, they will come after Fury.

Stiverne is much better technically than Fury and Wilder solved him.

Tyson will not be hard for Deontay to figure out.

made my day that has.

[koolkc107]

Wilder has legit KO power thats for sure.

But when he steps into the ring with a guy like Tyson Fury he is going to lose every single round, did you see how wild he was? He was letting himself open so many times and actually looked a little bit gased by the 9th round with the Polish fighter being fresher.

Wilder has skills, but he really doesnt know how to use them. His Jab is very good but he rarely used it in the fight, when he did he was in total control, I actually had Szpilka ahead 5-3 at the time of the stoppage and was really looking forward to go to those final rounds.. Wilder really has not chance against Fury-Ortiz-Haye

Let's not get confused.

Tyson had a beautiful game plan for Wlad.

But it wasn't like he was poetry in motion; he was awkward as hell beating Klitschko too.

And the blueprint Tyson used for Wlad wont work on Wilder or any of the other heavies.

Because, unlike Wlad, they will come after Fury.

Stiverne is much better technically than Fury and Wilder solved him.

Tyson will not be hard for Deontay to figure out.

made my day that has.

This wasn't that long ago.

And to the best of my knowledge, Fury's chin hasn't gotten any better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIkCJaQ-6o

[danamba7]

Let's not get confused.

Tyson had a beautiful game plan for Wlad.

But it wasn't like he was poetry in motion; he was awkward as hell beating Klitschko too.

And the blueprint Tyson used for Wlad wont work on Wilder or any of the other heavies.

Because, unlike Wlad, they will come after Fury.

Stiverne is much better technically than Fury and Wilder solved him.

Tyson will not be hard for Deontay to figure out.

made my day that has.

This wasn't that long ago.

And to the best of my knowledge, Fury's chin hasn't gotten any better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIkCJaQ-6o

What's chin got to do with technique? His defense was poor in this instance but it definitely wasn't poor against Wlad.

[Deadendgeneration]

This wasn't that long ago.

And to the best of my knowledge, Fury's chin hasn't gotten any better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIkCJaQ-6o

Szpilka stopped Mike Mollo? Holy poo! That must mean Szpilka is a quality heavy....oh...oh wait...no.,..no it doesn't

That was in response to different cretin who reasoned that since Mollo had him down 3 times in two fights that must mean Szpilka has no chin...
completely missing the point about how great a chin it takes to get decked three times and STILL stop your opponent TWICE.

I'd say Szpilka is as quality or more quality a heavy as about half of Wlad's last 8 opponents, at least 6 of Fury's last 10 opponents, and 6 of Ortiz's last 10.

Tyson Fury gets knocked down, gets up to win by knockout and his chin is poor. Artur Szpilka get's knocked down several times, gets up to win some of those fights by knockout and that means he has a good chin? You're either completely blinded by Bronze balls or you're trolling.

[koolkc107]

This wasn't that long ago.

And to the best of my knowledge, Fury's chin hasn't gotten any better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIkCJaQ-6o

Szpilka stopped Mike Mollo? Holy poo! That must mean Szpilka is a quality heavy....oh...oh wait...no.,..no it doesn't

That was in response to different cretin who reasoned that since Mollo had him down 3 times in two fights that must mean Szpilka has no chin...
completely missing the point about how great a chin it takes to get decked three times and STILL stop your opponent TWICE.

I'd say Szpilka is as quality or more quality a heavy as about half of Wlad's last 8 opponents, at least 6 of Fury's last 10 opponents, and 6 of Ortiz's last 10.

Tyson Fury gets knocked down, gets up to win by knockout and his chin is poor. Artur Szpilka get's knocked down several times, gets up to win some of those fights by knockout and that means he has a good chin? You're either completely blinded by Bronze balls or you're trolling.

You moron!

That was a cruiserweight that put Fury on his ass!

And BTW, that KO Fury was gifted was only accomplished after
a blatant foul that Tyson should have had points deducted for and/or
been disqualified for since Cunningham was stopped right after the foul.

Nevermind, you win idiot...

[snake33]

Based on Szpilka - Povetkin would have an excellent chance of beating Wilder, perhaps by KO.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I think Wilder is there to be beaten, by someone Durable with a decent crack on them.

He looked pretty awful in his last fight, technically he doesn't really seem to have improved much if at all - still throws shots whilst off balance, and continually falling in with his punches, and rocking side to side. He seems almost incapable of throwing a straight shot with any power. He's fast, but he's clumsy and predictable.

I've not seen much of povetkin, but anyone with a decent amateur pedigree and good technical boxing who takes a punch has a chance.

[kaiserbill]

I also suspect Povetkin will KO Wilder.

[Undefeated49-0]

No!!

It's clear that Wilder has a lot to learn, he never throws counterpunches when he is being attacked, he has no variation on his punches either, he simply loads up the right hand and waits to throw it. Breland needs to teach him how to counterpunch and throw an uppercut when he's being attacked (although he managed one or two in that last fight), there were numerous opportunities for him to throw more.

He needs to know how to loop his shots as well, Szpilka was low and bobbing and weaving and when a fighter is stooping/ducking down like that from far distance that is when you throw looping shots. Wilder needs a lot of work, his defense is leaky, his footwork is awful and his left hook should be much better.

Breland is not doing a good job of training this kid, I could teach him a thing or two.

[koolkc107]

I wonder what the excuse is going to be if and when Wilder puts Povetkin to sleep too.

Everyone is talking about how bad he looked without once mentioning how that
can easily happen whenever an orthodox fighter faces a southpaw who is
doing his best NOT to mix it up.

Yes, Wilder is not a finished product yet.

Yes, he looked bad.

And so would a lot of other heavies out there if Szpilka
fought them the way he fought Wilder.

By way of comparison, Szpilka threw 369 punches in 10 rounds verses Jennings
while only totaling 230 in 9 rounds against Wilder.

Hope this helps...

[danamba7]

I wonder what the excuse is going to be if and when Wilder puts Povetkin to sleep too.

Everyone is talking about how bad he looked without once mentioning how that
can easily happen whenever an orthodox fighter faces a southpaw who is
doing his best NOT to mix it up.

Yes, Wilder is not a finished product yet.

Yes, he looked bad.

And so would a lot of other heavies out there if Szpilka
fought them the way he fought Wilder.

By way of comparison, Szpilka threw 369 punches in 10 rounds verses Jennings
while only totaling 230 in 9 rounds against Wilder.

Hope this helps...

If he stopped Povetkin with no controversy, I would be converted. That's how it works. Beat a genuine top guy impressively, get credit. Look average, against average fighters, get stick.

[kaiserbill]

"This is not worship...this is real, genuine love. Walk on water stuff."

[ttornado]

I said Povetkin has no business in the ring with Wilder based on skills, not whether or not that Russian is a mandatory.

https://www.instagram.com/p/8Ljet1wQ01/

[asdfjkl]

I've not seen much of povetkin, but anyone with a decent amateur pedigree and good technical boxing who takes a punch has a chance.

Povetkin was like a superhero in his youth, every big tournament he joined he won, he doesn't even know what bronze or silver is, everything was gold, weather it's European, world, olympics, it really doesn't matter, everything is gold.
He's the only boxer I've ever heard of that won a match while hitting the wall. Watch Klitschko's first lose if you don't know what hitting the wall is.

[Tony1244]

I said Povetkin has no business in the ring with Wilder based on skills, not whether or not that Russian is a mandatory.

https://www.instagram.com/p/8Ljet1wQ01/

Anyone can look bad in a clip and that includes Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I've not seen much of povetkin, but anyone with a decent amateur pedigree and good technical boxing who takes a punch has a chance.

Povetkin was like a superhero in his youth, every big tournament he joined he won, he doesn't even know what bronze or silver is, everything was gold, weather it's European, world, olympics, it really doesn't matter, everything is gold.
He's the only boxer I've ever heard of that won a match while hitting the wall. Watch Klitschko's first lose if you don't know what hitting the wall is.

That's why I mentioned his amateur pedigree - I'm saying Povtekin has a good chance to win.

I'm aware of what the wall is, though Povetkin is hardly the only boxer to have won after hitting the wall, many great fighters have done the same over the years, come back to win through utter exhaustion.

Wilder has some terrible flaws, he windmills his shots leaving himself wide open. Luckily he's not fought tough competition yet.

If he beats Povetkin he gets genuine credit.

[pound per pound]

Wilder doesn't hit as hard as we are told and he might take a better punch the we were told as well.

I'm not sold on Wilder. I'd pick Fury, Ortiz, and Povetkin to beat him.

I'd pick Parker to take him out too.

[Undefeated49-0]

I wonder what the excuse is going to be if and when Wilder puts Povetkin to sleep too.

Everyone is talking about how bad he looked without once mentioning how that
can easily happen whenever an orthodox fighter faces a southpaw who is
doing his best NOT to mix it up.

Yes, Wilder is not a finished product yet.

Yes, he looked bad.

And so would a lot of other heavies out there if Szpilka
fought them the way he fought Wilder.

By way of comparison, Szpilka threw 369 punches in 10 rounds verses Jennings
while only totaling 230 in 9 rounds against Wilder.

Hope this helps...

Truthfully speaking though we've seen Wilder look just as amateurish against orthodox fighters so we cannot purely based this on him facing SPs. Yes Wilder is an unfinished product but honestly when and how long will it take for this man (Breland) to teach this man how to throw counterpunches or vary his punches in angle, punch selection (uppercut, left hooks, etc.) as well as speed??

It appears that there are numerous basic fundamentals WIlder is missing in his footwork, I've had yet to see him even vaguely attempt to move laterally.

Come on Kool, I know you see these things too, the only reason he (Wilder) has been winning is due to his power and reach, his defense is leaky as hell and as long as a boxer can keep him going backwards he is going to lose, his left hook is weak and not even anything for most HWs to worry about.

Breland should've turned this boy into a weapon by now, I'm just not impressed with what I see. Ortiz would make Wilder his b*tch if they fought at this stage of Deontay's game.