David Haye vs Mark de Mori - January 16th

[DA GOOSE]

Devastated for Mark, but when you dare to dream someone is going home with a loss.

Mark is fine and respect to Haye. Never gave Mark a chance to adjust to the step up and his speed and looked as fast as ever.

TeamMDM4Life

Glad Mark is okay. But let's try and keep the summary real and forget the "but he's my friend" baloney.

Mark de Mori freeloaded his way to 30-1-2 by beating guys outside the top 100, and in most cases guys with rankings that resembled phone numbers.

He had no right being in the same ring as David Haye and got absolutely annihilated just like 99.9% of people who follow boxing knew he would.

The jig is well and truly up and the game over.

The beating Mark got not enough for you? He's Mark's mate and Totalpac believed in him. At least he is staunch to a friend some people here are staunch to people who they don't know and couldn't care less about them.

[Like a Boss]

Devastated for Mark, but when you dare to dream someone is going home with a loss.

Mark is fine and respect to Haye. Never gave Mark a chance to adjust to the step up and his speed and looked as fast as ever.

TeamMDM4Life

Glad Mark is okay. But let's try and keep the summary real and forget the "but he's my friend" baloney.

Mark de Mori freeloaded his way to 30-1-2 by beating guys outside the top 100, and in most cases guys with rankings that resembled phone numbers.

He had no right being in the same ring as David Haye and got absolutely annihilated just like 99.9% of people who follow boxing knew he would.

The jig is well and truly up and the game over.

The beating Mark got not enough for you? He's Mark's mate and Totalpac believed in him. At least he is staunch to a friend some people here are staunch to people who they don't know and couldn't care less about them.

Which part of what I posted there do you disagree with?

But I see you selected de Mori to win by KO. Enough said

[DA GOOSE]

I agree his opposition has been poor but was hoping for an upset. Only seen 1 fight of Mark's(Leapai) so didn't know what to expect. Im just sick of us Aussies losing overseas.

[Like a Boss]

I agree his opposition has been poor but was hoping for an upset. Only seen 1 fight of Mark's(Leapai) so didn't know what to expect. Im just sick of us Aussies losing overseas.

You agree de Mori has fought poor opposition. But on the strength of seeing one of his fights that took place well over 10 years ago, that he didn't win, you have selected him to KO David Haye?

[DA GOOSE]

I agree his opposition has been poor but was hoping for an upset. Only seen 1 fight of Mark's(Leapai) so didn't know what to expect. Im just sick of us Aussies losing overseas.

You agree de Mori has fought poor opposition. But on the strength of seeing one of his fights that took place well over 10 years ago, that he didn't win, you have selected him to KO David Haye?

I was hoping he would reverse the trend of Aussies getting spanked overseas. He didn't,I didn't bet money on it or even watch the fight. Oh well we suck again overseas.

[lowlefthand]

Devastated for Mark, but when you dare to dream someone is going home with a loss.

Mark is fine and respect to Haye. Never gave Mark a chance to adjust to the step up and his speed and looked as fast as ever.

TeamMDM4Life

Glad Mark is okay. But let's try and keep the summary real and forget the "but he's my friend" baloney.

Mark de Mori freeloaded his way to 30-1-2 by beating guys outside the top 100, and in most cases guys with rankings that resembled phone numbers.

He had no right being in the same ring as David Haye and got absolutely annihilated just like 99.9% of people who follow boxing knew he would.

The jig is well and truly up and the game over.

Mate - I knew Haye would spank him, but while I was into the schadenfraude for a while - it isn't meant to be taken to such extremes.
Your rejoicing in De Mori's inevitable demise is somewhat sickening.

He's just a guy like you or me. He made career choices when he realized he had no reach.
Do you feel like a big man dissing him now?

You're like the schoolyard bully that has an over-inflated sense of self-importance and has taken it too far

[Like a Boss]

Devastated for Mark, but when you dare to dream someone is going home with a loss.

Mark is fine and respect to Haye. Never gave Mark a chance to adjust to the step up and his speed and looked as fast as ever.

TeamMDM4Life

Glad Mark is okay. But let's try and keep the summary real and forget the "but he's my friend" baloney.

Mark de Mori freeloaded his way to 30-1-2 by beating guys outside the top 100, and in most cases guys with rankings that resembled phone numbers.

He had no right being in the same ring as David Haye and got absolutely annihilated just like 99.9% of people who follow boxing knew he would.

The jig is well and truly up and the game over.

Mate - I knew Haye would spank him, but while I was into the schadenfraude for a while - it isn't meant to be taken to such extremes.
Your rejoicing in De Mori's inevitable demise is somewhat sickening.

He's just a guy like you or me. He made career choices when he realized he had no reach.
Do you feel like a big man dissing him now?

You're like the schoolyard bully that has an over-inflated sense of self-importance and has taken it too far

Funny, you accuse me of passing judging on someone, and in the process you pass judgement on me.

What a hypocritical world we live in.

Thank you for your opinion anyway

[lowlefthand]

Glad Mark is okay. But let's try and keep the summary real and forget the "but he's my friend" baloney.

Mark de Mori freeloaded his way to 30-1-2 by beating guys outside the top 100, and in most cases guys with rankings that resembled phone numbers.

He had no right being in the same ring as David Haye and got absolutely annihilated just like 99.9% of people who follow boxing knew he would.

The jig is well and truly up and the game over.

Mate - I knew Haye would spank him, but while I was into the schadenfraude for a while - it isn't meant to be taken to such extremes.
Your rejoicing in De Mori's inevitable demise is somewhat sickening.

He's just a guy like you or me. He made career choices when he realized he had no reach.
Do you feel like a big man dissing him now?

You're like the schoolyard bully that has an over-inflated sense of self-importance and has taken it too far

Funny, you accuse me of passing judging on someone, and in the process you pass judgement on me.

What a hypocritical world we live in.

Thank you for your opinion anyway

I would never accuse you of "passing judging" on someone, as this is simply not grammatically possible.
Actually, that's not true. People do it all the time. When someone walks past.
Anyway, I still think you've enjoyed De Mori's demise a little too much.

[bogan whisperer]

Devastated for Mark, but when you dare to dream someone is going home with a loss.

Mark is fine and respect to Haye. Never gave Mark a chance to adjust to the step up and his speed and looked as fast as ever.

TeamMDM4Life

Glad Mark is okay. But let's try and keep the summary real and forget the "but he's my friend" baloney.

Mark de Mori freeloaded his way to 30-1-2 by beating guys outside the top 100, and in most cases guys with rankings that resembled phone numbers.

He had no right being in the same ring as David Haye and got absolutely annihilated just like 99.9% of people who follow boxing knew he would.

The jig is well and truly up and the game over.

Mate - I knew Haye would spank him, but while I was into the schadenfraude for a while - it isn't meant to be taken to such extremes.
Your rejoicing in De Mori's inevitable demise is somewhat sickening.

He's just a guy like you or me. He made career choices when he realized he had no reach.
Do you feel like a big man dissing him now?

You're like the schoolyard bully that has an over-inflated sense of self-importance and has taken it too far

There's more to this than you seem to realise mate.

Totalpac has been plying this and other forums with his overzealous fanboy propaganda for a long time. Longer than you have been posting.

Each de Mori win against yet another defenceless nobody he would go on as if Mark had just beaten a world ranked contender. All the while claiming de Mori would beat Klitschko if he got the chance.

Truth is he has bought a large part of whatever he might be copping now, on himself.

[Totalpac]

And I'm happy to accept it.

I don't recall ever gloating that Marks wins were 'amazing or extra special' or whatever you said but I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong.

Have always promoted Mark as much as I could, cause I believe in him and what he is and does.

I've broad enough shoulders to take it, all good.

[convict]

I was happy he got his shot at a top level fighter after all them years chasing it. The end result was inevitable however i had hoped Mark would have at least did a little better, but that's the nature of the beast.
Is this the level that all Aussie heavy weights are at?.

[ozzie]

I'm going to give my take on this whole situation and why I believe some are seeming to revel in the undoing of Mark de Mori and why I am probably part of the people that are. These are obviously my opinions they're from what I've seen with him both in and out of the ring and in the gym.

i believe why some people are 'reveling' in this embarrassing loss is due to the fact that for the past 15 years or so Mark has been living the dream. A dream that many more fighters who are both more talented and willing to take risks have never gotten to live. Mark has achieved this by being well connected through his father who has used his position at the West Australian magazine to get Mark undeserved attention in the paper giving him exposure. This has helped him lure in sponsors many WA guys could only dream even if they are more deserving, and it feels like he has done this by telling what are essentially lies to these people. He spent a few years not fighting because he refused to fight Australia's best because the money wasn't good enough. Apparently not fighting and making money was a better option though. He never went to find the best trainers instead preferring to surround himself with yes men who would do what he wanted and when he managed to find a decent trainer didn't want to take his advice because he didn't understand Marks(ie telling him to keep his hands up or to move more etc) style or some ridiculous shit like that. Let's not forget when he was scheduled to have a fight put on by a small local promoter instead of agreeing to fight an Aussie heavyweight for whatever his reason which IMO were not valid he talked the promoter into bringing in an African that no one had ever heard of but he hand picked himself. The African got here and failed the HIV test so no fight for Mark the promoter took a huge loss and has never been able to put on another promotion because after Marks fight fell through and it was clear he wasn't fighting a day or so before the event huge amounts of people asked for and got refunds. Maybe Mark could've fought an Aussie on a day or twos notice or maybe he could've agreed to fight a known quantity before hand and actually had a fight. Then in a smart move he decided that Australia wasn't the place to be if he wanted to make his dream come true but instead of going to Germany or the US or UK where the Heavyweight boxing scene is booming he went to Croatia and did exactly what he did here. Still getting stories in the West Australian for winning a 'world championship' against a guy who would probably lose to some of our local amateurs while other West Aussies actually took risks and won some national and regional titles but couldn't even get a line in the paper. This post isn't to hate on Mark because he really is a pretty decent bloke but I and probably some others feel like he has duped the paying public and sponsors and while I would've loved to see him win or even put on a good performance and not look like one of the taxi drivers that Aussie promoters bring here, I and I assume others feel somewhat vindicated by what happened.

[bogan whisperer]

I'm going to give my take on this whole situation and why I believe some are seeming to revel in the undoing of Mark de Mori and why I am probably part of the people that are. These are obviously my opinions they're from what I've seen with him both in and out of the ring and in the gym.

i believe why some people are 'reveling' in this embarrassing loss is due to the fact that for the past 15 years or so Mark has been living the dream. A dream that many more fighters who are both more talented and willing to take risks have never gotten to live. Mark has achieved this by being well connected through his father who has used his position at the West Australian magazine to get Mark undeserved attention in the paper giving him exposure. This has helped him lure in sponsors many WA guys could only dream even if they are more deserving, and it feels like he has done this by telling what are essentially lies to these people. He spent a few years not fighting because he refused to fight Australia's best because the money wasn't good enough. Apparently not fighting and making money was a better option though. He never went to find the best trainers instead preferring to surround himself with yes men who would do what he wanted and when he managed to find a decent trainer didn't want to take his advice because he didn't understand Marks(ie telling him to keep his hands up or to move more etc) style or some ridiculous poo like that. Let's not forget when he was scheduled to have a fight put on by a small local promoter instead of agreeing to fight an Aussie heavyweight for whatever his reason which IMO were not valid he talked the promoter into bringing in an African that no one had ever heard of but he hand picked himself. The African got here and failed the HIV test so no fight for Mark the promoter took a huge loss and has never been able to put on another promotion because after Marks fight fell through and it was clear he wasn't fighting a day or so before the event huge amounts of people asked for and got refunds. Maybe Mark could've fought an Aussie on a day or twos notice or maybe he could've agreed to fight a known quantity before hand and actually had a fight. Then in a smart move he decided that Australia wasn't the place to be if he wanted to make his dream come true but instead of going to Germany or the US or UK where the Heavyweight boxing scene is booming he went to Croatia and did exactly what he did here. Still getting stories in the West Australian for winning a 'world championship' against a guy who would probably lose to some of our local amateurs while other West Aussies actually took risks and won some national and regional titles but couldn't even get a line in the paper. This post isn't to hate on Mark because he really is a pretty decent bloke but I and probably some others feel like he has duped the paying public and sponsors and while I would've loved to see him win or even put on a good performance and not look like one of the taxi drivers that Aussie promoters bring here, I and I assume others feel somewhat vindicated by what happened.

Good post. Fills in some gaps.

It was pretty obvious someone had done a con job on the West Australian magazine and Mark's sponsors.

I remember hearing one of Mark's sponsors once proudly announce how Mark had just made history by becoming Australian's first dual world heavyweight champion and just thinking, you sucker. Mark was fighting hacks the boxing world had long forgotten on basketball courts and empty gyms and this guy who was helping bankroll things seemed completely oblivious to the ride he was being taken for.

[Totalpac]

I'm going to give my take on this whole situation and why I believe some are seeming to revel in the undoing of Mark de Mori and why I am probably part of the people that are. These are obviously my opinions they're from what I've seen with him both in and out of the ring and in the gym.

i believe why some people are 'reveling' in this embarrassing loss is due to the fact that for the past 15 years or so Mark has been living the dream. A dream that many more fighters who are both more talented and willing to take risks have never gotten to live. Mark has achieved this by being well connected through his father who has used his position at the West Australian magazine to get Mark undeserved attention in the paper giving him exposure. This has helped him lure in sponsors many WA guys could only dream even if they are more deserving, and it feels like he has done this by telling what are essentially lies to these people. He spent a few years not fighting because he refused to fight Australia's best because the money wasn't good enough. Apparently not fighting and making money was a better option though. He never went to find the best trainers instead preferring to surround himself with yes men who would do what he wanted and when he managed to find a decent trainer didn't want to take his advice because he didn't understand Marks(ie telling him to keep his hands up or to move more etc) style or some ridiculous poo like that. Let's not forget when he was scheduled to have a fight put on by a small local promoter instead of agreeing to fight an Aussie heavyweight for whatever his reason which IMO were not valid he talked the promoter into bringing in an African that no one had ever heard of but he hand picked himself. The African got here and failed the HIV test so no fight for Mark the promoter took a huge loss and has never been able to put on another promotion because after Marks fight fell through and it was clear he wasn't fighting a day or so before the event huge amounts of people asked for and got refunds. Maybe Mark could've fought an Aussie on a day or twos notice or maybe he could've agreed to fight a known quantity before hand and actually had a fight. Then in a smart move he decided that Australia wasn't the place to be if he wanted to make his dream come true but instead of going to Germany or the US or UK where the Heavyweight boxing scene is booming he went to Croatia and did exactly what he did here. Still getting stories in the West Australian for winning a 'world championship' against a guy who would probably lose to some of our local amateurs while other West Aussies actually took risks and won some national and regional titles but couldn't even get a line in the paper. This post isn't to hate on Mark because he really is a pretty decent bloke but I and probably some others feel like he has duped the paying public and sponsors and while I would've loved to see him win or even put on a good performance and not look like one of the taxi drivers that Aussie promoters bring here, I and I assume others feel somewhat vindicated by what happened.

Well expressed and a valid opinion.

[Like a Boss]

I'm going to give my take on this whole situation and why I believe some are seeming to revel in the undoing of Mark de Mori and why I am probably part of the people that are. These are obviously my opinions they're from what I've seen with him both in and out of the ring and in the gym.

i believe why some people are 'reveling' in this embarrassing loss is due to the fact that for the past 15 years or so Mark has been living the dream. A dream that many more fighters who are both more talented and willing to take risks have never gotten to live. Mark has achieved this by being well connected through his father who has used his position at the West Australian magazine to get Mark undeserved attention in the paper giving him exposure. This has helped him lure in sponsors many WA guys could only dream even if they are more deserving, and it feels like he has done this by telling what are essentially lies to these people. He spent a few years not fighting because he refused to fight Australia's best because the money wasn't good enough. Apparently not fighting and making money was a better option though. He never went to find the best trainers instead preferring to surround himself with yes men who would do what he wanted and when he managed to find a decent trainer didn't want to take his advice because he didn't understand Marks(ie telling him to keep his hands up or to move more etc) style or some ridiculous poo like that. Let's not forget when he was scheduled to have a fight put on by a small local promoter instead of agreeing to fight an Aussie heavyweight for whatever his reason which IMO were not valid he talked the promoter into bringing in an African that no one had ever heard of but he hand picked himself. The African got here and failed the HIV test so no fight for Mark the promoter took a huge loss and has never been able to put on another promotion because after Marks fight fell through and it was clear he wasn't fighting a day or so before the event huge amounts of people asked for and got refunds. Maybe Mark could've fought an Aussie on a day or twos notice or maybe he could've agreed to fight a known quantity before hand and actually had a fight. Then in a smart move he decided that Australia wasn't the place to be if he wanted to make his dream come true but instead of going to Germany or the US or UK where the Heavyweight boxing scene is booming he went to Croatia and did exactly what he did here. Still getting stories in the West Australian for winning a 'world championship' against a guy who would probably lose to some of our local amateurs while other West Aussies actually took risks and won some national and regional titles but couldn't even get a line in the paper. This post isn't to hate on Mark because he really is a pretty decent bloke but I and probably some others feel like he has duped the paying public and sponsors and while I would've loved to see him win or even put on a good performance and not look like one of the taxi drivers that Aussie promoters bring here, I and I assume others feel somewhat vindicated by what happened.

Really good post.

After John Wyborn sparked Mark in the first round back in 2004 Mark wanted nothing more to do with Australian opponents. That didn't win him any friends or respect over here.

As you alluded to, Mark seems to have pulled similar stunts in Croatia to what he pulled here.

[Totalpac]

As a counter argument, could you see as a possibility the apparent reason 'Mark wanted nothing to do with Aussie opponents' is as a naive early 20yo he went to the east coast got put into his 8th fight in 8 months as a pro against a super experienced tough veteran and ended up getting dropped?

Surely anyone from the outside looking in would say 8 fights in 8 months for a HW pro starting out with 11 amateur fights to his name, that they are maybe being 'pushed' a little to fast.

Welcome to the world of pro boxing Mark, not everyone has your best interests at heart.

[Like a Boss]

As a counter argument, could you see as a possibility the apparent reason 'Mark wanted nothing to do with Aussie opponents' is as a naive early 20yo he went to the east coast got put into his 8th fight in 8 months as a pro against a super experienced tough veteran and ended up getting dropped?

Surely anyone from the outside looking in would say 8 fights in 8 months for a HW pro starting out with 11 amateur fights to his name, that they are maybe being 'pushed' a little to fast.

Welcome to the world of pro boxing Mark, not everyone has your best interests at heart.

In those first 8 fights of Mark's you mentioned he fought 7 debutantes and a guy with 2-1-1 to his name. An early sign of things to come.

Mark used the excuse of flu for his loss to Wyborn. Claims he couldn't even warm up before the fight he felt so crook.

Why one loss to an Australian would swear you off them for the next 10 years remains a mystery. It sure alienated him from Australian fight fans and the local industry.

[Totalpac]

I'm sure it has, no argument there.

As an adult I just can't help but think if I was put in charge of 20ish yo boxer who a couple months earlier had his 6th fight in 'fight of year' and took punishment against Alex, I probably would be doing everything I could to not let him fight a tough as nails vet a couple of months later.

This isn't me saying 'poor Mark, poor baby' but for sure it must have been a lesson learnt.

A fighter is always going to say 'yes, let me fight' especially a young one, it's up to the adults around him to have his best interests at heart.

It's 12 years later and in the fight game nothing has changed. Pro boxing is a horrible dirty game, but one some many people love.

As you grow up you just have to be smart enough to make it work for yourself.

[Like a Boss]

I'm sure it has, no argument there.

As an adult I just can't help but think if I was put in charge of 20ish yo boxer who a couple months earlier had his 6th fight in 'fight of year' and took punishment against Alex, I probably would be doing everything I could to not let him fight a tough as nails vet a couple of months later.

This isn't me saying 'poor Mark, poor baby' but for sure it must have been a lesson learnt.

A fighter is always going to say 'yes, let me fight' especially a young one, it's up to the adults around him to have his best interests at heart.

It's 12 years later and in the fight game nothing has changed. Pro boxing is a horrible dirty game, but one some many people love.

As you grow up you just have to be smart enough to make it work for yourself.

Mark demonstrated he was 'smart' enough to avoid quality opponents for the next 10 years. Some of his opponents were so badly over matched it was a disgrace. Ever spare a thought for those guys?

If there are bullies in the fight game, Mark is close to the top of the list. He was regularly fighting guys with less than 10 fights to their name after he'd been fighting as a pro for 10 years!

[Like a Boss]

I'm sure it has, no argument there.

As an adult I just can't help but think if I was put in charge of 20ish yo boxer who a couple months earlier had his 6th fight in 'fight of year' and took punishment against Alex...

When Alex fought Mark, Mark had already had 5 fights.

Mark fought the 15 wins from 38 fights journeyman John Wyborn in his 8th fight. Wyborn had only had 1 win from his previous 6 fights when he fought Mark and retired on a loss only a few months later. So whoever was advising Mark must have thought Wyborn was ripe for the picking, and as above, Mark used the flu as the reason he lost.

Alex fought a 12 wins from 14 fights opponent in his 4th fight, and won the OPBF title by beating the 16 wins from 20 fights Nathan Briggs, who had already fought for the national title, in his 12th fight.

[DA GOOSE]

I'm sure it has, no argument there.

As an adult I just can't help but think if I was put in charge of 20ish yo boxer who a couple months earlier had his 6th fight in 'fight of year' and took punishment against Alex, I probably would be doing everything I could to not let him fight a tough as nails vet a couple of months later.

This isn't me saying 'poor Mark, poor baby' but for sure it must have been a lesson learnt.

A fighter is always going to say 'yes, let me fight' especially a young one, it's up to the adults around him to have his best interests at heart.

It's 12 years later and in the fight game nothing has changed. Pro boxing is a horrible dirty game, but one some many people love.

As you grow up you just have to be smart enough to make it work for yourself.

Mark demonstrated he was 'smart' enough to avoid quality opponents for the next 10 years. Some of his opponents were so badly over matched it was a disgrace. Ever spare a thought for those guys?

If there are bullies in the fight game, Mark is close to the top of the list. He was regularly fighting guys with less than 10 fights to their name after he'd been fighting as a pro for 10 years!

True but he is hardly alone in that respect. A lot of Aussies do that hence our abysmal record overseas when our fighters venture overseas.

[Like a Boss]

I'm sure it has, no argument there.

As an adult I just can't help but think if I was put in charge of 20ish yo boxer who a couple months earlier had his 6th fight in 'fight of year' and took punishment against Alex, I probably would be doing everything I could to not let him fight a tough as nails vet a couple of months later.

This isn't me saying 'poor Mark, poor baby' but for sure it must have been a lesson learnt.

A fighter is always going to say 'yes, let me fight' especially a young one, it's up to the adults around him to have his best interests at heart.

It's 12 years later and in the fight game nothing has changed. Pro boxing is a horrible dirty game, but one some many people love.

As you grow up you just have to be smart enough to make it work for yourself.

Mark demonstrated he was 'smart' enough to avoid quality opponents for the next 10 years. Some of his opponents were so badly over matched it was a disgrace. Ever spare a thought for those guys?

If there are bullies in the fight game, Mark is close to the top of the list. He was regularly fighting guys with less than 10 fights to their name after he'd been fighting as a pro for 10 years!

True but he is hardly alone in that respect. A lot of Aussies do that hence our abysmal record overseas when our fighters venture overseas.

Glad you agree

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[Totalpac]

Happy and sad

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[The Raw Prawn]

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Been waiting 10 years for this to happen
The deluded plodder with few skills and a chip on his shoulder finally stepped up and got what he deserved.
Bet he doesn't make that mistake again.
Sexy boxing.