English Heavyweight Title...

[wesshaw1985]

hypothetical year-long tournament LIVE on DAVE -

Quarter Finals -

David Allen (8-0) vs. Young Fury (6-1)
Dominic Akinlade (5-0-1) vs. DL Jones (5-0)
Tom Little (7-3) vs. AJ Carter (8-2)
Adam Machaj (6-1) vs. Kash Ali (9-0)

who wins the tournament?

[reggaereggae]

When is this happening and what is the format?

[wesshaw1985]

When is this happening and what is the format?

this event is happening right now, in my brain...

[reggaereggae]

When is this happening and what is the format?

this event is happening right now, in my brain...

Oh sorry, I missed the word hypothetical in the original post. I'm going for Dominic Akinlade.

[wesshaw1985]

When is this happening and what is the format?

this event is happening right now, in my brain...

Oh sorry, I missed the word hypothetical in the original post. I'm going for Dominic Akinlade.

no worries brother, I added it after your original question.
Its time to for a promoter to get the title some recognition again...

[Tarkus]

David Allen (8-0) vs. Young Fury (6-1)

The only two guys I have heard about and you put them in 1/4 finals?

[Stevieb8006]

Young fury isn't a heavyweight I don't think. Do u mean Hughie?

[expe]

Young fury isn't a heavyweight I don't think. Do u mean Hughie?

Been weighing in around 16st so far, not the biggest though so it wouldn't surprise me if he could make cruiser.

Hughie's actually fighting John McDermott for the title, still waiting for a date from Mick Hennessy for the fight.

[daviddee]

Young fury isn't a heavyweight I don't think. Do u mean Hughie?

Been weighing in around 16st so far, not the biggest though so it wouldn't surprise me if he could make cruiser.

Hughie's actually fighting John McDermott for the title, still waiting for a date from Mick Hennessy for the fight.

From what I have heard Martin is taking a voluntary around March time and looking like it will be Hughie or Chisora can't see Hughie fighting John when he's looking at a World title shot

[keirw]

Wouldn't mind a tournament like this for the British being put together after Joshua vacates.
It should include Hughie, Whyte, Cornish and if they can avoid getting injured McDermott and Sexton.

[wesshaw1985]

Wouldn't mind a tournament like this for the British being put together after Joshua vacates.
It should include Hughie, Whyte, Cornish and if they can avoid getting injured McDermott and Sexton.

throw Price, Towers and Sprott into the mix and could be a fun tournament...

[expe]

From what I have heard Martin is taking a voluntary around March time and looking like it will be Hughie or Chisora can't see Hughie fighting John when he's looking at a World title shot

Is Hughie even rated by the IBF and if he is ... why?

No and I don't know why his name's being talked about in relation to Martin even if he was. He's some way from that level right now and while Peter talks of taking on anyone in the top 10, judging by his opposition I don't think that's really their intention currently.

[daviddee]

It's a voluntary so no problem he would easily be moved to top ten. Hughie would beat Martin with ease and is more than ready. His sparring has moved him on a lot faster. Should go watch him spar Steve Cunningham. I know they pushed to get the fight when Tyson had to vacate. In saying that I think Martin will fancy his chances against Chisora

[expe]

It's a voluntary so no problem he would easily be moved to top ten. Hughie would beat Martin with ease and is more than ready. His sparring has moved him on a lot faster. Should go watch him spar Steve Cunningham. I know they pushed to get the fight when Tyson had to vacate. In saying that I think Martin will fancy his chances against Chisora

Not quite as easy with the IBF, they have their faults but they do stick to their rules and won't just move a fighter into the rankings because the champion wants a voluntary against him. He's a 21 year old prospect who's fought one fighter inside the top 100 in the world, he's nowhere near ready to fight for a world title, if we were talking about the British title then I'd agree but he's a long way from world level, regardless of who the champion is. If they tried to get Hughie in to fight for the vacant title then they're absolute idiots and wasted their time, the IBF always offer the fight to the two highest ranked fighters, then go down the list from there if someone turns it down, there's no chance of an unranked fighter getting a shot like that.

[daviddee]

It's a voluntary so no problem he would easily be moved to top ten. Hughie would beat Martin with ease and is more than ready. His sparring has moved him on a lot faster. Should go watch him spar Steve Cunningham. I know they pushed to get the fight when Tyson had to vacate. In saying that I think Martin will fancy his chances against Chisora

Not quite as easy with the IBF, they have their faults but they do stick to their rules and won't just move a fighter into the rankings because the champion wants a voluntary against him. He's a 21 year old prospect who's fought one fighter inside the top 100 in the world, he's nowhere near ready to fight for a world title, if we were talking about the British title then I'd agree but he's a long way from world level, regardless of who the champion is. If they tried to get Hughie in to fight for the vacant title then they're absolute idiots and wasted their time, the IBF always offer the fight to the two highest ranked fighters, then go down the list from there if someone turns it down, there's no chance of an unranked fighter getting a shot like that.

Is Joshua ready he has a high ranking?

[expe]

It's a voluntary so no problem he would easily be moved to top ten. Hughie would beat Martin with ease and is more than ready. His sparring has moved him on a lot faster. Should go watch him spar Steve Cunningham. I know they pushed to get the fight when Tyson had to vacate. In saying that I think Martin will fancy his chances against Chisora

Not quite as easy with the IBF, they have their faults but they do stick to their rules and won't just move a fighter into the rankings because the champion wants a voluntary against him. He's a 21 year old prospect who's fought one fighter inside the top 100 in the world, he's nowhere near ready to fight for a world title, if we were talking about the British title then I'd agree but he's a long way from world level, regardless of who the champion is. If they tried to get Hughie in to fight for the vacant title then they're absolute idiots and wasted their time, the IBF always offer the fight to the two highest ranked fighters, then go down the list from there if someone turns it down, there's no chance of an unranked fighter getting a shot like that.

Is Joshua ready he has a high ranking?

Not yet, his last fight showed that he isn't. He's closer than Hughie because of his amateur background and he's fought better opposition up to now, but he's by no means the finished article and realistically needs at least 3-4 more fights before he's properly ready to step up to that sort of level.

[daviddee]

Not quite as easy with the IBF, they have their faults but they do stick to their rules and won't just move a fighter into the rankings because the champion wants a voluntary against him. He's a 21 year old prospect who's fought one fighter inside the top 100 in the world, he's nowhere near ready to fight for a world title, if we were talking about the British title then I'd agree but he's a long way from world level, regardless of who the champion is. If they tried to get Hughie in to fight for the vacant title then they're absolute idiots and wasted their time, the IBF always offer the fight to the two highest ranked fighters, then go down the list from there if someone turns it down, there's no chance of an unranked fighter getting a shot like that.

Is Joshua ready he has a high ranking?

Not yet, his last fight showed that he isn't. He's closer than Hughie because of his amateur background and he's fought better opposition up to now, but he's by no means the finished article and realistically needs at least 3-4 more fights before he's properly ready to step up to that sort of level.

who has Joshua fought better than Rudenko??

[expe]

Is Joshua ready he has a high ranking?

Not yet, his last fight showed that he isn't. He's closer than Hughie because of his amateur background and he's fought better opposition up to now, but he's by no means the finished article and realistically needs at least 3-4 more fights before he's properly ready to step up to that sort of level.

who has Joshua fought better than Rudenko??

Whyte, Johnson, Bakhtov, I'd say Sprott too but some would dispute that.

[rm1]

Allen and Akinlade are the only ones on that list with any real prospects I'd say. Young Fury is not in the same league as his brother or cousin.

[wesshaw1985]

Allen and Akinlade are the only ones on that list with any real prospects I'd say. Young Fury is not in the same league as his brother or cousin.

but he would add name value to any potential tournament...

[keirw]

Not yet, his last fight showed that he isn't. He's closer than Hughie because of his amateur background and he's fought better opposition up to now, but he's by no means the finished article and realistically needs at least 3-4 more fights before he's properly ready to step up to that sort of level.

You don't think Joshua would beat Martin?

[expe]

Not yet, his last fight showed that he isn't. He's closer than Hughie because of his amateur background and he's fought better opposition up to now, but he's by no means the finished article and realistically needs at least 3-4 more fights before he's properly ready to step up to that sort of level.

You don't think Joshua would beat Martin?

I'd give him a good chance of beating Martin, who right now it's fair to say is yet to prove either way whether or not he's genuinely a world class fighter. But there's no need to rush him and there wouldn't be the clamour for it if it wasn't for Camp Eddie's gob, better to take their time, let him learn as he goes on and iron out some of the issues he has, which are numerous, so that he can step up to world level when the time is right and not only win, but be able to continue winning. He might well be capable of beating Martin, but who's he going to fight next and who will his mandatory be? Is he ready not just for Charles Martin, but the opposition that holding a world title brings? I'd give him a good chance of beating Wilder next too and he'd get his hands on a world title if he did, but would then have to fight Povetkin and he's not ready for that yet.

[keirw]

Not yet, his last fight showed that he isn't. He's closer than Hughie because of his amateur background and he's fought better opposition up to now, but he's by no means the finished article and realistically needs at least 3-4 more fights before he's properly ready to step up to that sort of level.

You don't think Joshua would beat Martin?

I'd give him a good chance of beating Martin, who right now it's fair to say is yet to prove either way whether or not he's genuinely a world class fighter. But there's no need to rush him and there wouldn't be the clamour for it if it wasn't for Camp Eddie's gob, better to take their time, let him learn as he goes on and iron out some of the issues he has, which are numerous, so that he can step up to world level when the time is right and not only win, but be able to continue winning. He might well be capable of beating Martin, but who's he going to fight next and who will his mandatory be? Is he ready not just for Charles Martin, but the opposition that holding a world title brings? I'd give him a good chance of beating Wilder next too and he'd get his hands on a world title if he did, but would then have to fight Povetkin and he's not ready for that yet.

I get what you're saying but I wouldn't hesitate if I was in his shoes, if he beats Martin (which I imagine he would) he could take an easy voluntary and then Glazkov would likely be his first mandatory, far from a frightening prospect.

[daviddee]

Not yet, his last fight showed that he isn't. He's closer than Hughie because of his amateur background and he's fought better opposition up to now, but he's by no means the finished article and realistically needs at least 3-4 more fights before he's properly ready to step up to that sort of level.

who has Joshua fought better than Rudenko??

Whyte, Johnson, Bakhtov, I'd say Sprott too but some would dispute that.

Haha quality an unproven Below British level fighter.. A old punchbag, who to? ?? and 90 year old Splott haha pull the other one it has bells on it. Rudenko beat Brown he was robbed. Browse will beat Chagev for the WBA regular belt. I bet you also think Joshua would beat Tyson, Wilder and Haye

[expe]

who has Joshua fought better than Rudenko??

Whyte, Johnson, Bakhtov, I'd say Sprott too but some would dispute that.

Haha quality an unproven Below British level fighter.. A old punchbag, who to? ?? and 90 year old Splott haha pull the other one it has bells on it. Rudenko beat Brown he was robbed. Browse will beat Chagev for the WBA regular belt. I bet you also think Joshua would beat Tyson, Wilder and Haye

See Dusted Peyote's post for my thoughts on this, he summed it up perfectly.