David Haye vs Mark de Mori - January 16th

[convict]

How many of the 19 fights I highlighted above "made sense to his career", other than that they provided him with virtually risk free avenues to another win???

What I'm saying to you, and I'm sure you understand exactly where I'm coming from here, is that Mark had opportunities to fight better level opposition than many of the 19 mismatches I have highlighted above and he turned them down.

Are you going to keep on trying to deny that???

I think I'm nearly done mate.

That doesn't come as a great surprise.

But with your door-handle-post you have finally got to the crux of the matter by offering the all import words : "matched the risk/reward ratio"

My information, from a few people who worked with Mark along the way, is that he wasn't prepared to take the slightest risk unless the reward for doing so was way out of kilter high, and that is a large part of the reason why he declined a few fights along the way (not the ones you are referring to) and kept treading the easy path.

Does that come as any shock to you??? It shouldn't.

As a fan of Marks, I think the fight with Chauncy Welliver that never happened still stumps me to think why Mark turned it down to fight Troy Weida , Welliver at the time was rated by the WBO and WBC and ended up fighting Sherman Williams instead.

[The Raw Prawn]

Curious. Are you happy for Mark?

Are you >>>



#sexyboxing

#recordpadderbrutallyexposed

Been waiting 10 years for this to happen
The deluded plodder with few skills and a chip on his shoulder finally stepped up and got what he deserved.
Bet he doesn't make that mistake again.
Sexy boxing.

This photo deserves to head every page of any de Mori thread.
It should serve as a warning to young fighters about padding records and the dangers you may face when finally
stepping up into unknown territory.
The only positive to come out of the Haye fight is that de Mori wasn't badly hurt.

[Totalpac]

Yeah, no other positives at all

[The Raw Prawn]

Yeah, no other positives at all

Would be interesting to read your list of perceived positives regarding your mate Mark.

Does he have any sort of future in boxing other than returning to his previous model of going into battle
against fat old men ranked outside the top 200 ?

[foxdog1923]

I think Mark should try kickboxing. Boxers normally go good with the switch. He could get a world title that way.

[Totalpac]

Yeah, no other positives at all

Would be interesting to read your list of perceived positives regarding your mate Mark.

Does he have any sort of future in boxing other than returning to his previous model of going into battle
against fat old men ranked outside the top 200 ?

Life is all about the journey, not the destination.

Maybe its just me, but from being a kid watching Tyson fight, saying I'm going to be a boxer, slogging away for 15 plus years being told you'll never make it to fighting in front of a sold out O2 area and in front of 3 million viewers at home with a chance to enter the Aussie boxing history books, Id say is a pretty good positive.

Yeah not the result or perfermonce he hoped for but you cant chase the highest of highs without risking the lowest of lows.

And talking about journey's, you see Damon Reed just took 16-0 Andrew Reeds 0? Not bad for an old fella.

[Beltane]

Finally for Mark, he has now realised in the hardest way possible in the words of Robert Zimmerman:

Well, the moral of the story
The moral of this song
Is simply that one should never be
Where one does not belong

[Like a Boss]

Finally for Mark, he has now realised in the hardest way possible in the words of Robert Zimmerman:

Well, the moral of the story
The moral of this song
Is simply that one should never be
Where one does not belong

As fitting as it is prophetic.

Mark has probably never been a top 100 heavyweight and in 12 years has rarely, if ever, beaten a top 100 rated heavyweight.

He had no business being in the ring with anyone half as good as Haye and the outcome illustrated that.

[bogan whisperer]

It's no secret de Mori was offered better fights that he turned down. It doesn't seem to suit the narrative of someone in particular to admit it though.

Funny how it's no trouble to list the 'better opponents he agreed to fight'. But the ones he chose not to have been oh so conveniently forgotten along the way

[Rexob]

He got paid well I would imagine, so not all bad plus people know who he is now, so he should be able to capitalize on this defeat and get another good couple of pay checks? Before finally retiring to the sheep farm.

[Like a Boss]

He got paid well I would imagine, so not all bad plus people know who he is now, so he should be able to capitalize on this defeat and get another good couple of pay checks? Before finally retiring to the sheep farm.

de Mori was saying prior to the Haye fight training had become a sickening chore for him and he had already seriously considered retirement. He also speculated he would retire after the Haye fight.

Assuming his artificially high ranking goes following the Haye obliteration, retirement would seem the most obvious outcome.

[The Raw Prawn]

He got paid well I would imagine, so not all bad plus people know who he is now, so he should be able to capitalize on this defeat and get another good couple of pay checks? Before finally retiring to the sheep farm.

Taking money under false pretences is not a good look.
Conman Peter Foster goes to jail regularly for the same offence.
Usually for flogging dodgy slimming products.
Maybe Mark could be nicked for impersonating a boxer.

Too harsh ?

[bogan whisperer]

Lucas Browne wasn't at all impressed with Mark de Mori's performance or the condition he turned up in:

“It wasn’t a good advertisement for where Australian heavyweight boxing is at,” Browne said.

“I’ve sparred with Mark de Mori, I’ve been around Mark and I was actually quite disappointed in purely the look of him. He looked a little bit more chunky than what he would normally come in.

“And he was very underwhelming when he performed. I don’t know whether it was nerves, I don’t know what it was."

[DA GOOSE]

The hypocrisy from some people in this thread is breathtaking.

[campfire]

Lucas Browne wasn't at all impressed with Mark de Mori's performance or the condition he turned up in:

“It wasn’t a good advertisement for where Australian heavyweight boxing is at,” Browne said.

“I’ve sparred with Mark de Mori, I’ve been around Mark and I was actually quite disappointed in purely the look of him. He looked a little bit more chunky than what he would normally come in.

“And he was very underwhelming when he performed. I don’t know whether it was nerves, I don’t know what it was."

Lucas Browne wasn't all that impressed..........................People that live in glass house's shouldn't throw stone's

[dberry]

Lucas Browne wasn't at all impressed with Mark de Mori's performance or the condition he turned up in:

“It wasn’t a good advertisement for where Australian heavyweight boxing is at,” Browne said.

“I’ve sparred with Mark de Mori, I’ve been around Mark and I was actually quite disappointed in purely the look of him. He looked a little bit more chunky than what he would normally come in.

“And he was very underwhelming when he performed. I don’t know whether it was nerves, I don’t know what it was."

Lucas Browne wasn't all that impressed..........................People that live in glass house's shouldn't throw stone's

You think Lucas Brown would have been stretchered inside the first third of the first round, by a cruiserweight coming off a three year lay off, without landing a real punch? Intedesting

[Lairdy]

Lucas Browne wasn't at all impressed with Mark de Mori's performance or the condition he turned up in:

“It wasn’t a good advertisement for where Australian heavyweight boxing is at,” Browne said.

“I’ve sparred with Mark de Mori, I’ve been around Mark and I was actually quite disappointed in purely the look of him. He looked a little bit more chunky than what he would normally come in.

“And he was very underwhelming when he performed. I don’t know whether it was nerves, I don’t know what it was."

Lucas Browne wasn't all that impressed..........................People that live in glass house's shouldn't throw stone's

You think Lucas Brown would have been stretchered inside the first third of the first round, by a cruiserweight coming off a three year lay off, without landing a real punch? Intedesting

I think he's just pointing out that Lucas Browne, someone that is very limited - although not as limited as De Mori - himself, shouldn't be criticizing another fighter for making the Australian heavyweight division look like a joke.

P.s - good to see you back on here, Dale.

[dberry]

Lucas Browne wasn't all that impressed..........................People that live in glass house's shouldn't throw stone's

You think Lucas Brown would have been stretchered inside the first third of the first round, by a cruiserweight coming off a three year lay off, without landing a real punch? Intedesting

I think he's just pointing out that Lucas Browne, someone that is very limited - although not as limited as De Mori - himself, shouldn't be criticizing another fighter for making the Australian heavyweight division look like a joke.

P.s - good to see you back on here, Dale.

Ah, I see. Although, TBF, as limited as Lucas is and Alex Leapei was, they actually, to some extent, had a few good wins on the international stage. Sadly the days of Jimmy Thunder and Kali Meehan are gone for now although I wouldn't write Brown off just yet.

Good to see all you guys still here

[Lairdy]

I think Browne is a chance against Chagaev. But that's not because i think Browne is and outstanding fighter, it's mor e to do with how average Chagaev is, regardless of his record.

[bogan whisperer]

Lucas Browne wasn't at all impressed with Mark de Mori's performance or the condition he turned up in:

“It wasn’t a good advertisement for where Australian heavyweight boxing is at,” Browne said.

“I’ve sparred with Mark de Mori, I’ve been around Mark and I was actually quite disappointed in purely the look of him. He looked a little bit more chunky than what he would normally come in.

“And he was very underwhelming when he performed. I don’t know whether it was nerves, I don’t know what it was."

Lucas Browne wasn't all that impressed..........................People that live in glass house's shouldn't throw stone's

Browne isn't pretty. But he's pretty bloody effective and he has much better scalps on his record that de Mori has.

[Rexob]

Lucas Browne wasn't at all impressed with Mark de Mori's performance or the condition he turned up in:

“It wasn’t a good advertisement for where Australian heavyweight boxing is at,” Browne said.

“I’ve sparred with Mark de Mori, I’ve been around Mark and I was actually quite disappointed in purely the look of him. He looked a little bit more chunky than what he would normally come in.

“And he was very underwhelming when he performed. I don’t know whether it was nerves, I don’t know what it was."

Lucas Browne wasn't all that impressed..........................People that live in glass house's shouldn't throw stone's

Browne isn't pretty. But he's pretty bloody effective and he has much better scalps on his record that de Mori has.

Correct.