British Top 30 P4P February 2016
British Top 30 P4P February 2016
1. (1.) Tyson Fury
2. (2.) James DeGale
3. (3.) Kell Brook
4. (4.) Carl Frampton
5. (5.) Amir Khan
6. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (7.) Scott Quigg
8. (8.) Lee Selby
9. (9.) Martin Murray
10. (10.) Billy Joe Saunders
11. (11.) Ola Afolabi
12. (12.) Tony Bellew
13. (13.) George Groves
14. (14.) Lee Haskins
15. (15.) Terry Flanagan
16. (16.) Andy Lee (Irish)
17. (17.) Ricky Burns
18. (18.) Anthony Crolla
19. (19.) Ovill McKenzie
20. (20.) Callum Smith
21. (21.) Nathan Cleverly
22. (22.) Chris Eubank Jr.
23. (23.) Anthony Joshua
24. (24.) Liam Smith
25. (RE.) David Haye
26. (25.) Paul Butler
27. (26.) Enzo Maccarinelli
28. (27.) Gavin McDonnell
29. (28.) Ryan Farrag
30. (29.) Sam Eggington
Out - (30.) Liam Walsh
2. (2.) James DeGale
3. (3.) Kell Brook
4. (4.) Carl Frampton
5. (5.) Amir Khan
6. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (7.) Scott Quigg
8. (8.) Lee Selby
9. (9.) Martin Murray
10. (10.) Billy Joe Saunders
11. (11.) Ola Afolabi
12. (12.) Tony Bellew
13. (13.) George Groves
14. (14.) Lee Haskins
15. (15.) Terry Flanagan
16. (16.) Andy Lee (Irish)
17. (17.) Ricky Burns
18. (18.) Anthony Crolla
19. (19.) Ovill McKenzie
20. (20.) Callum Smith
21. (21.) Nathan Cleverly
22. (22.) Chris Eubank Jr.
23. (23.) Anthony Joshua
24. (24.) Liam Smith
25. (RE.) David Haye
26. (25.) Paul Butler
27. (26.) Enzo Maccarinelli
28. (27.) Gavin McDonnell
29. (28.) Ryan Farrag
30. (29.) Sam Eggington
Out - (30.) Liam Walsh
Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
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Manchester Massive
- Heavyweight

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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Bellew and Groves have both consistently come up short at world level, makes no sense for them to be ranked so far above Crolla
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Crolla's lost plenty of times at domestic level and his opponent for his world title belt wasn't a proven world class fighter.Manchester Massive wrote:Bellew and Groves have both consistently come up short at world level, makes no sense for them to be ranked so far above Crolla
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mickey1975
- Heavyweight

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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
BJS has wins against Eubank and Lee plus some other good wins, far better than any Murray has ever had. In fact, I'd have him top five.
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Murray has faced much better opposition and has only lost clearly once.mickey1975 wrote:BJS has wins against Eubank and Lee plus some other good wins, far better than any Murray has ever had. In fact, I'd have him top five.
Murray is a more proven fighter at world level.
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mickey1975
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
He isn't. He's a proven loser at world level. Like Mitchell.Horse wrote:Murray has faced much better opposition and has only lost clearly once.mickey1975 wrote:BJS has wins against Eubank and Lee plus some other good wins, far better than any Murray has ever had. In fact, I'd have him top five.
Murray is a more proven fighter at world level.
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simonwalsh
- Middleweight
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Continually miffed by high rankings for Bellew, Burns and Groves, but that's probably just because I don't like them.
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Murray has only lost clearly at world level one time; against Golovkin.mickey1975 wrote:He isn't. He's a proven loser at world level. Like Mitchell.
He could have been given the decision in all of his other fights and been a unified & lineal champion at middleweight and the WBO champion at super middleweight. Murray is a very underrated fighter.
Saunders is still fairly unproven at world level. I did not rate Lee very highly.
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I rate them, others don't.simonwalsh wrote:Continually miffed by high rankings for Bellew, Burns and Groves, but that's probably just because I don't like them.
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simonwalsh
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
I know, it's just opinions.Horse wrote:I rate them, others don't.simonwalsh wrote:Continually miffed by high rankings for Bellew, Burns and Groves, but that's probably just because I don't like them.
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mickey1975
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
I thought Murray lost all four title bids. I do not rate him very highly.
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MarkMcBurney
- Super Middleweight
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Bit confused how Lee Haskins is so low? Genuine world champion and has previously beaten the number 6 in your list...
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Haskins' last fight was 7.5 months ago now and he has dropped a couple of spots since then. Iwasa was a good win, but Iwasa was not a proven world level fighter.MarkMcBurney wrote:Bit confused how Lee Haskins is so low? Genuine world champion and has previously beaten the number 6 in your list...
He beat McDonnell 7 years & 10 months ago. That win isn't worth a huge deal nowadays.
Lee just needs to defend against some decent fighters and then he can climb the rankings again.
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Murray is too high.
Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Saunders' abilities at world level are far more questionable than Murray's.Boxerbeetle wrote:Murray is too high.
Saunders' stamina seems very suspect and he may well struggle to hold onto his title for long.
At the moment I think Murray belongs above him.
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mickey1975
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
It's ridiculous. The worst decision ever made on these lists.
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I've made far worse decisions.mickey1975 wrote:It's ridiculous. The worst decision ever made on these lists.
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Londonirish
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Horse wrote:Haskins' last fight was 7.5 months ago now and he has dropped a couple of spots since then. Iwasa was a good win, but Iwasa was not a proven world level fighter..
Iwasa Was a Good Win, he went into the fight against Lee with only 1 lost out of 20 and that one was to the Number 1 Featherweight Shinsuke Yamanaka.
BJS above Murry, you say Murry has fought better opposition, but each time came up short (Abraham, Glolovkin, Martinez) BJS has beat everyone he has came up against and fought the same type of opponents that Murry has fought in other fights....................
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It was good, but I wouldn't class it as a world level win.Londonirish wrote:Iwasa Was a Good Win, he went into the fight against Lee with only 1 lost out of 20 and that one was to the Number 1 Featherweight Shinsuke Yamanaka.
In my opinion Golovkin, Martinez, Abraham & Sturm were all better than Lee.Londonirish wrote:BJS above Murry, you say Murry has fought better opposition, but each time came up short (Abraham, Glolovkin, Martinez) BJS has beat everyone he has came up against and fought the same type of opponents that Murry has fought in other fights....................
Saunders struggled to beat Eubank Jr and Ryder. If his stamina doesn't improve significantly then I don't think that he'll be able to hold onto his title.
Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Who doesn't like Ricky Burns?simonwalsh wrote:Continually miffed by high rankings for Bellew, Burns and Groves, but that's probably just because I don't like them.
Don't rate him? Fine
Think he's made some poor defences or not fought who you thought he should? Fine
But you can't not like Ricky Burns. He has to be one of the least offensive people in the sport
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sweetscience
- Heavyweight

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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
BJS #6 for me
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mickey1975
- Heavyweight

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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
BJS has won over the scheduled championship distance 7 times. He is a true 12 round fighter. Horse is wrong.
Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
With his pace dropping alarmingly in the last few rounds more than once.mickey1975 wrote:BJS has won over the scheduled championship distance 7 times. He is a true 12 round fighter. Horse is wrong.
Saunders is a very good fighter for 6 rounds, after that he is ordinary.
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mickey1975
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Re: British Top 30 P4P February 2016
Murray got stopped late on. I blame his stamina. He has zero impressive wins, either.