Anthony Joshua next opponent?

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I've seen something the other day that Martin's team have openly said thy would willing to give AJ a shot at the title, and are willing to fight at the O2 in April so, Martin could be a possible option - does Eddie want to risk him in a world title fight yet?

Delboy is fighting Pulev so that's out of the question, Whyte is out till at least May so a rematch is out of the question too.

I think AJ would like a fight with Parker, but I really cannot see this happening. Helenius has said that he has got an announcement Monday - but I cannot see it being him, as Eddie has said the announcement for AJ's fight will be announced Tuesday, so I can't see Helenius bringing the fight to the audience 's attention before Eddie.

So my question to you guys is, who do you think will be stepping in the ring April to face AJ?
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It will not be Martin.Joshua's team has already said as much.
Parker makes no sense at this time.This fight has PPV written all over it as soon as one or both have a share of the title.
Helinus makes the most sense.Limited fighter with a good record and a high rating.

I think Helinus
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tiny_acres wrote:I think Helinus
If I had to put money on it, I would go for Helenius as well.
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fightfan95 wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:I think Helinus
If I had to put money on it, I would go for Helenius as well.
I actually wanted to see him destroy Chisora but since that is out of the question Helinus will do
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Helenius' "Big Announcement" has to be either Martin or Joshua otherwise it's not a big announcement.

So I agree, Joshua-Helenius is likely if Martin isn't involved.
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tiny_acres wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:I think Helinus
If I had to put money on it, I would go for Helenius as well.
I actually wanted to see him destroy Chisora but since that is out of the question Helinus will do
I think Scott or Takam would be a good name for him - and I don't think either bring an element of risk in it.
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I would have thought Thompson or Scott would've been perfect. Thompson comes with a decent ranking and lots of experience and Scott is a gimme with an unjustifiably high ranking.
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Tony1244 wrote:Helenius' "Big Announcement" has to be either Martin or Joshua otherwise it's not a big announcement.

So I agree, Joshua-Helenius is likely if Martin isn't involved.
Would you say Helenius v Haye would class as a 'Big announcement?'
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Taki... wrote:I would have thought Thompson or Scott would've been perfect. Thompson comes with a decent ranking and lots of experience and Scott is a gimme with an unjustifiably high ranking.
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fightfan95 wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:Helenius' "Big Announcement" has to be either Martin or Joshua otherwise it's not a big announcement.

So I agree, Joshua-Helenius is likely if Martin isn't involved.
Would you say Helenius v Haye would class as a 'Big announcement?'

Yeah. But I wrote in another thread that my guess is if it was Helenius-Haye, Haye couldn't keep himself from announcing it himself. Haye isn't as big as Martin who is more active and has a bogus title. That's not to say that Martin is better, he isn't, unless Haye has gotten much worse.
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Joshua won't have any trouble finding an opponent as no one is ducking him. For a guy who's done really well and looks very promising, it's a wonder as to why he's in such hot demand from other fighters cuing up. They obviously see something in his boxing they can exploit.
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foxdog1923 wrote:Joshua won't have any trouble finding an opponent as no one is ducking him. For a guy who's done really well and looks very promising, it's a wonder as to why he's in such hot demand from other fighters cuing up. They obviously see something in his boxing they can exploit.
It's called money, he got a very big fanbase in the UK and the UK is quite small, with much people living in it who also own quite a bit of money, if even Dillian Whyte can get rich against him, anyone can.
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Haye vs Takam
Martin vs Helenius
Joshua vs Chisora
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fightfan95 wrote:I've seen something the other day that Martin's team have openly said thy would willing to give AJ a shot at the title, and are willing to fight at the O2 in April so, Martin could be a possible option - does Eddie want to risk him in a world title fight yet?

Delboy is fighting Pulev so that's out of the question, Whyte is out till at least May so a rematch is out of the question too.

I think AJ would like a fight with Parker, but I really cannot see this happening. Helenius has said that he has got an announcement Monday - but I cannot see it being him, as Eddie has said the announcement for AJ's fight will be announced Tuesday, so I can't see Helenius bringing the fight to the audience 's attention before Eddie.

So my question to you guys is, who do you think will be stepping in the ring April to face AJ?
Joshua is ducking Martin, he doesn't want it. Joshua's amateur attack and low level skills will be exposed, he and his team knows this is the truth which is why he doesn't want any part of Martin. Why not go and get that strap??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGvTknOdBo
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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:I've seen something the other day that Martin's team have openly said thy would willing to give AJ a shot at the title, and are willing to fight at the O2 in April so, Martin could be a possible option - does Eddie want to risk him in a world title fight yet?

Delboy is fighting Pulev so that's out of the question, Whyte is out till at least May so a rematch is out of the question too.

I think AJ would like a fight with Parker, but I really cannot see this happening. Helenius has said that he has got an announcement Monday - but I cannot see it being him, as Eddie has said the announcement for AJ's fight will be announced Tuesday, so I can't see Helenius bringing the fight to the audience 's attention before Eddie.

So my question to you guys is, who do you think will be stepping in the ring April to face AJ?
Joshua is ducking Martin, he doesn't want it. Joshua's amateur attack and low level skills will be exposed, he and his team knows this is the truth which is why he doesn't want any part of Martin. Why not go and get that strap??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGvTknOdBo
He's not ducking, he's a novice who just won the British strap in 15 fights, he'll be fighting for world titles by the end of the year, early 2017.
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Nightmare Roy wrote:He's not ducking, he's a novice who just won the British strap in 15 fights, he'll be fighting for world titles by the end of the year, early 2017.
Maybe but he was offered that fight with Martin but turned it down. David Reed did not turn down Tito, neither did Vargas by comparison.
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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:He's not ducking, he's a novice who just won the British strap in 15 fights, he'll be fighting for world titles by the end of the year, early 2017.
Maybe but he was offered that fight with Martin but turned it down. David Reed did not turn down Tito, neither did Vargas by comparison.
....and look what happened
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Nightmare Roy wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:He's not ducking, he's a novice who just won the British strap in 15 fights, he'll be fighting for world titles by the end of the year, early 2017.
Maybe but he was offered that fight with Martin but turned it down. David Reed did not turn down Tito, neither did Vargas by comparison.
....and look what happened
Yes, I know that's why i said maybe. I can't blame him for not taking him on, if i was his Promoter I'd build him up slowly until I feel he's ready.
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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Maybe but he was offered that fight with Martin but turned it down. David Reed did not turn down Tito, neither did Vargas by comparison.
....and look what happened
Yes, I know that's why i said maybe. I can't blame him for not taking him on, if i was his Promoter I'd build him up slowly until I feel he's ready.
That's the play, more experience and then hopefully he can be a dominant champ once he is ready, the trouble is, when they have already made him a PPV fighter, the fans will tire and want to see him in with fighters he probably isn't ready for. It's a risky game his promoters are playing.
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Nightmare Roy wrote:That's the play, more experience and then hopefully he can be a dominant champ once he is ready, the trouble is, when they have already made him a PPV fighter, the fans will tire and want to see him in with fighters he probably isn't ready for. It's a risky game his promoters are playing.

Yeah I agree!!
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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:He's not ducking, he's a novice who just won the British strap in 15 fights, he'll be fighting for world titles by the end of the year, early 2017.
Maybe but he was offered that fight with Martin but turned it down.David Reed did not turn down Tito, neither did Vargas by comparison.
Joshua really turn that down?

I know Parker is not impressed by Martin and would be keen on him.

I thought everyone was keen on Martin. Joshua and Martin are definitely in hot demand.
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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:That's the play, more experience and then hopefully he can be a dominant champ once he is ready, the trouble is, when they have already made him a PPV fighter, the fans will tire and want to see him in with fighters he probably isn't ready for. It's a risky game his promoters are playing.

Yeah I agree!!
Then don't call it a duck! Just because someone says no to a fight doesn't mean its a duck, he knows he's not ready for the title and everything that goes with it, he's not scared of Charles fornicating Martin.
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Larrylefthook wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:That's the play, more experience and then hopefully he can be a dominant champ once he is ready, the trouble is, when they have already made him a PPV fighter, the fans will tire and want to see him in with fighters he probably isn't ready for. It's a risky game his promoters are playing.

Yeah I agree!!
Then don't call it a duck! Just because someone says no to a fight doesn't mean its a duck, he knows he's not ready for the title and everything that goes with it, he's not scared of Charles effing Martin.

It's still a duck if he was offered the fight and refused it, that's just how ducking works.
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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Larrylefthook wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Yeah I agree!!
Then don't call it a duck! Just because someone says no to a fight doesn't mean its a duck, he knows he's not ready for the title and everything that goes with it, he's not scared of Charles effing Martin.

It's still a duck if he was offered the fight and refused it, that's just how ducking works.
It's only a duck if the fight would have made sense, if you call that a duck, he also ducked Parker, Haye, Wilder, Martin indeed, basically every boxer lol. Wilder who ducked Povetkin, that's a duck, if Wilder gives his belt away without fighting Povetkin then that's a clear duck to me. AJ is still learning, Wilder is a finished product, he won't get much better as he currently is.
In fact he fought better against Duhaupas as against Szpilka in my opinion.
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asdfjkl wrote:It's only a duck if the fight would have made sense, if you call that a duck, he also ducked Parker, Haye, Wilder, Martin indeed, basically every boxer lol. Wilder who ducked Povetkin, that's a duck, if Wilder gives his belt away without fighting Povetkin then that's a clear duck to me. AJ is still learning, Wilder is a finished product, he won't get much better as he currently is.
In fact he fought better against Duhaupas as against Szpilka in my opinion.
Yep it's a duck by Wilder if that is his mandatory and he's chasing belts but I understand that Povetkin ducked him first. Doesn't excuse Joshua for ducking Haye (who called him out) but it's Joshua's fans that make him out to be this KO artist that will beat everyone but as soon as he's called out then it's the same old "he's too green" comment.

We can't have it both ways, either Joshua is simply too green and is no threat to the top dogs (yet) or he's ducking them right now until he gets more seasoned (maybe they take losses and get older too) before he faces them.

It's not a one way street on this, you know? While he (Joshua) is gaining experience they are getting old, and probably more shopworn, slower and have less punch resistance, he is still young and has time to develop/get better and be more towards his prime by the time he faces them.
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