The Khan Can Thread

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freddydoesdallas wrote:For those that think Khan will win, is it because you think Khan is truly world class/elite or do you think Khan is good and canelo is vastly overrated?
Khan has some world class aspects to his game, (most notably his hand speed) but perhaps isn't the most rounded. I do think Canelo is beatable as shown by by mayweather trout Lara etc. khan will clearly have to protect himself in a way he hasn't demonstrated for some time, but I do think its possible.

Khan definitely has enough skill to make this a bloody interesting match up and make me look forward to this fight.

I guess I'm not in the category of thinking khan will win, but am in the category of those thinking he can win.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Taansend wrote:Not sure who's old enough to remember the build up to Hagler Leonard but Sugar Ray was given no chance in that bout.

Speedy Welterweight against big punching Middleweight champion.

Lighter weight fighter considered less than stellar in the chin area.

OK, none of that is relevant to this fight but I just :D to mention it anyway

There was nothing wrong with leonards chin. He was tough as old boots, smart, great technically and could definitely punch. Absolutely eff all in common with khan other than speed.
Agree no similarities really. Leonard gets better as time passes. What a boxer.
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Datsue wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:For those that think Khan will win, is it because you think Khan is truly world class/elite or do you think Khan is good and canelo is vastly overrated?

I kinda hope more than "believe" that Khan can win; most of that is based purely on wishful thinking & a sort of knee-jerk irascibility where Alvarez is concerned. However, having given the matter a bit more thought, I've managed to identify my reasons (listed in no particular order):-

1/ Khan's audacity. What a loon. Good on him. So ridiculous a challenge it makes me smile that someone's willing to gamble like this in today's landscape (he could fight loads of guys for less risk--& admittedly, less cash).

2/ Alvarez is so pedestrian it's untrue. Big & strong & superficially technically solid, but apart from that, there's very little there to enjoy if you're as picky as me.

3/ Avlarez has so many things stacked in his favour in almost every fight, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Loses 10 rounds vs Mayweather? One judge scores it a draw. Loses four/five rounds against Cotto (imo)? 119-109 it is, then. Not to get on the subject of his enormous weight-draining & how that practice gets my nadgers in a twist, personally. Plus, being fed the likes of Matty Hatton & Josesito Lopez stuck in my craw, diagonally.

4) (Insert crass anti-Ginger joke here)

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6) (Insert crass anti-Ginger joke here)

I think that just about covers it.
Can't argue with that. Plus, if canelo grew his hair a bit he'd probably start to look a bit like ed sheeran and who wouldn't love to see him take a few good digs
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Datsue wrote: Not to get on the subject of his enormous weight-draining & how that practice gets my nadgers in a twist, personally. Plus, being fed the likes of Matty Hatton & Josesito Lopez stuck in my craw, diagonally.

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this. Fvck Alvarez.
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Datsue wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:For those that think Khan will win, is it because you think Khan is truly world class/elite or do you think Khan is good and canelo is vastly overrated?

I kinda hope more than "believe" that Khan can win; most of that is based purely on wishful thinking & a sort of knee-jerk irascibility where Alvarez is concerned. However, having given the matter a bit more thought, I've managed to identify my reasons (listed in no particular order):-

1/ Khan's audacity. What a loon. Good on him. So ridiculous a challenge it makes me smile that someone's willing to gamble like this in today's landscape (he could fight loads of guys for less risk--& admittedly, less cash).

2/ Alvarez is so pedestrian it's untrue. Big & strong & superficially technically solid, but apart from that, there's very little there to enjoy if you're as picky as me.

3/ Avlarez has so many things stacked in his favour in almost every fight, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Loses 10 rounds vs Mayweather? One judge scores it a draw. Loses four/five rounds against Cotto (imo)? 119-109 it is, then. Not to get on the subject of his enormous weight-draining & how that practice gets my nadgers in a twist, personally. Plus, being fed the likes of Matty Hatton & Josesito Lopez stuck in my craw, diagonally.
Never managed to master breaking down other people's posts in order to respond to individual points but:

I'm a fan of Khan's but does the mega-gonads argument really exist in boxing? Or rather, when it comes to huge fights.
Whether you're a bricklayer who's been offered 10-20k, or a millionaire who's being offered 5-10 million plus, generally, fighters don't turn the money away even if Godzilla was in the opposite corner. Just my opinion.

As regards Matt Hatton. I don't think he should have been boxing for world titles when at something close to 50 pro fights, he skirted the British title scene completely - but that isn't to say he was no good. I can't think of anyone that stopped him barring a cut or a disqualification in fact. Ryan Rhodes was a far more worthy challenger to Canelo's title. I don't think anyone in the right mind could call Rhodes an easy option for anybody.
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I can't see Khan being able to a) knock Alvarez out or b) evade Alvarez's shots for 12 rounds. I went to see him fight Julio Diaz in Sheffield almost 3 years ago today and he was put over (about round 4 I think) and from 9 onwards he looked tired and looked ready to go at any time. It was a bit alarming tbh. And Diaz is a much smaller man than Alvarez.
Also, all Khan's stoppages have been referee jump in jobs. I don't think he's ever worried a rice pudding has he? (and I say that as a long time fan).
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