What if?

fightfan95 · Post by **fightfan95** » 18 Feb 2016, 07:03

Who would win in these match-ups (in their prime)

Carl Froch v Joe Calzaghe
Mike Tyson v Joe Frazier
Marvin Hagler v GGG
Oscar De La Hoya v Ricky Hatton
Vitali Klitschko v Wladimir Klitschko
Chris Eubank v Saul Alverez

Reece_D · Post by **Reece_D** » 18 Feb 2016, 07:19

Calzaghe UD
Mike Tyson KO
GGG SD
De La Hoya KO
Vitali Klitschko KO
Alvarez UD

fightfan95 · Post by **fightfan95** » 18 Feb 2016, 07:26

I agree but I think Froch would KO Calzaghe

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 18 Feb 2016, 07:57

Calzaghe, too quick, too mobile, and would outwork froch for a comfortable UD12
Tyson KO 4 Frazier - Frazier didn't face many big punchers in his career, he never had to face Lyle or Shavers - when he did face an aggressive murderous puncher in Foreman, he was annihilated twice. Tyson was far quicker than Joe, a very quick starter (Joe was a slow burner) - and hit way harder too. Frazier doesn't even get going.
Hard to say, we've not seen GGG in with anyone good enough to really judge him, so I don't know. Hagler I would have to say on their current resumes.
DLH TKO6 - Hatton cut to ribbons by DLH's jab and straight right and left hook, easy night's work for DLH.
Vitali - probably would have gone easy on his brother, but he was by far the tougher man and more natural fighter, if Wlad hurt him, then Vitali takes him apart inside the distance.
Eubank TKO10 - Eubank was a bigger stronger man than Alvarez, hit a lot harder, and was very cute when he wanted to be. Alvarez would have lacked the fleet of foot to make Eubank pay, and didn't hit hard enough to even come close to halting Eubank. Eubank could be lazy at times, but Alvarez would have been there to hit.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 18 Feb 2016, 08:04

Calzage - UD
Tyson - KO
ODLH - Tko
Wlad - KO
Eubank - KO

stevedoc · Post by **stevedoc** » 18 Feb 2016, 10:21

calzaghe ud
tyson KO early
hagler late ko
oscar ud
wlad...sd
eubanks ...sd.....tough one to call both can be lazy

Tony1244 · Post by **Tony1244** » 18 Feb 2016, 10:30

Calzaghe by UD. Shutout actually.
Frazier KO6. The Frazier of 1971 would be too much for the best Mike Tyson
Hagler decision, but GGG would have his moments
De La Hoya late stoppage
Vit KO6
Alvarez decision

Tanzio · Post by **Tanzio** » 18 Feb 2016, 10:41

FROCH,KO,11
SMOKIN JOE,KO,8
HAGLER,DECISION,CLOSE
ODLH,KO,6
GINGERHEAD,DECISION,CLOSE

koolkc107 · Post by **koolkc107** » 18 Feb 2016, 11:20

I think Joe gets way ahead on points but Carl catches him late and stops him.
I think Mike proves to be too fast and too strong for Joe and stops him before 9.
I think Marvin slaughters lil g inside of 2; Gennady has never been in with anyone remotely like Marvelous.
Oscar too skilled and crafty for Ricky. Stoppage late.
Wlad wins four or five close rounds til Vitali blasts him out of there in 6 or 7.
Chris way too nasty for the current version of Kid Cinammon, wide UD; this may change as Saul gets wiser.

Tanzio · Post by **Tanzio** » 18 Feb 2016, 11:25

Forgot one.

VKlIT,KO,7

Reece_D · Post by **Reece_D** » 18 Feb 2016, 11:32

I honestly think Calzaghe was so under rated and is a couple levels above Froch. easy points decision in a shutout. Calzaghe also comftably beats every current super middle.

Chepppaaa · Post by **Chepppaaa** » 18 Feb 2016, 12:08

joe
tyson
ggg
oscar
vitaly
chris

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 18 Feb 2016, 12:08

Think he'd have a tough one with Ward, he'd probably outwork him, but not easily.

greg · Post by **greg** » 18 Feb 2016, 13:30

..taking a wild guess:
Calzaghe
Tyson
Hagler
De La Hoya
Wlad
Alvarez

Rexob · Post by **Rexob** » 18 Feb 2016, 18:03

Carl Froch v Joe Calzaghe. A Calzaghe win on points with Froch being on the receiving end of a thousand punches or more.
Mike Tyson v Joe Frazier. A Tyson win with Frazier hitting the deck more than once and finally ko'd face first onto the canvas.
Marvin Hagler v GGG. Hagler taking everything that GGG can throw then demolishing GGG in the last 2 rounds for a late great stoppage victory.
Oscar De La Hoya v Ricky Hatton. A Del La Hoya win, cutting Hatton to ribbons and winning by stoppage mid rounds.
Vitali Klitschko v Wladimir Klitschko. A bore draw with both fighters counting their money after the fight laughing at the daft audience for paying for such a farce.
Chris Eubank v Saul Alverez. A Eubank victory pulling off a controversial win on points by just doing enough.

ClivePatrickLyons · Post by **ClivePatrickLyons** » 18 Feb 2016, 18:28

Froch 11 tko
Frazier 12 tko
Hagler un dec
De La Hoya un dec
Vitali 10 ko
Eubank split dec

punchoutsb · Post by **punchoutsb** » 18 Feb 2016, 18:58

Joe C. easily. Criminally underrated.
Tyson by TKO. Too much firepower for Joe's chin.
Hagler/GGG is impossible to say until we see GGG in with a top tier guy
Oscar but Ricky would have made it very hard on him
I think Wlad was the better fighter at the end of the day, but Vitali would be the worst stylistic for Wlad out there. I'd tale Vitali.
Pretty hard to call, but I'd lean towards Alvarez.

Undefeated49-0 · Post by **Undefeated49-0** » 18 Feb 2016, 19:01

Calzaghe beats the brakes off Froch much in the way he did vs Lacy if they fought in their prime, he was too fast, too good with his hands.

Mike KO's Frazier, IMHO, Joe was much too small for a beast like Tyson/Mike was KO'ing guys that outweighed him by 30lbs or more.

DLH annihilates Ricky because he was too big, too strong and too fast with an awesome jab in his prime.

Vitali vs Wlad, both would KO one another in their prime, lol because neither would want to say they lost to the other. Love is a strange thing, lol

Eubank would school Canelo in their prime, he was much more polished.

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 18 Feb 2016, 19:03

Calzaghe UD Froch - Joe down once, but wins 9 of the 12 rounds.
Frazier TKO8 Tyson - Could go either way, Tyson winning early or Frazier late.
Hagler SD GGG - Very tough call as we haven't seen GGG in with a fighter of Hagler's calibre. Would be a brutal fight.
De La Hoya KO9 Hatton - Competitive early, but Oscar takes the lead and catches Ricky with a left hook and stops him.
Vitali UD Wlad - Of course they'd never fight, but if they did, big brother wins either by decision or late stoppage.
Eubank UD Alvarez - Unless Canelo can bring his judges with him as has happened in the past.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 18 Feb 2016, 19:28

Calzaghe (I notice a few predictions of a late Froch stoppage, but JC's engine was just as good, if not better, and I doubt that he fades late to the point of being stopped)
Hagler
Oscar
Vitali
Eubank

Reece_D · Post by **Reece_D** » 19 Feb 2016, 06:09

Ward is now Light Heavy though. I didn't think of him as SMW

sucracristo · Post by **sucracristo** » 19 Feb 2016, 06:53

canelo has only edged cotto at a crazy catch middle fight, and facing khan next.
i couldn't imagine eubank fighting khan in any scenario even if both were prime.
until canelo beats a real middle, he doesn't belong in the discussion with someone
who at 168 beat benn and rocchigiani, had two close fights with collins, and was
somewhat competitive with calzaghi, with other legit middles and supermiddles
on his resume. he may have a had a few fights under middle as a teenage rookie
but was bigger his whole prime than canelo. canelo himself is saying he doesn't
want to fight GGG because he isn't a real middle, so why are we comparing him
to supermiddles?

calzaghi UD
tyson KO, frazier had all wrong style for this matchup. you can't just eat tyson's punches and frazier would.
DLH KO
no way to know hagler-GGG yet. we KNOW hagler wouldn't be demanding to fight khan or catchweights.
vitali UD over wlad

TBEwasLangford · Post by **TBEwasLangford** » 19 Feb 2016, 08:07

Calzaghe points..different level, beaten him as easy as Ward did
Tyson mid to late stoppage, would have stopped him like he did Pinklon Thomas
Hagler UD - Too difficult to say as GGG not fought anyway near enough his standard however he seems to have decent chin so expect him to get through the full 12-15 rounds, not enough to beat a prime Hagler though
DLH late stoppage - Another tough fight as both had suspect chins and Hatton always capable of a body shot that type Hopkins delivered. However think DLH was a slightly better all round boxer
Vitali stoppage - Tougher man, catch up with his brother
Eubank points/ late stoppage - Eubank of 90-91 pre Watson injury had nasty streak and great boxing skills. Too big and strong for Alvarez.

NateJR · Post by **NateJR** » 19 Feb 2016, 08:25

Calzaghe vs. Froch.- Calzaghe was def the better all around fighter than Froch. Both guys are underrated IMO. I see Calzaghe taking most the rounds but somewhere along the way Froch would catch Calzaghe and put him on the canvas. It would be too little too late though with Calzaghe winning a relatively wide UD.

Tyson vs. Frazier- Surprising to me no one gives Frazier a chance. How I see it, the most likely outcome would be Tyson getting to Joe early before Joe could even get started. What I fee would be deciding factor is whether or not Tyson would get Joe outta there early. A prime Numbers e Frazier before his first Ali fight was iron chinned, he was willing to walk through anything Ali threw at him and was reluctant to let anything stop him from retaining the HW championship.. Despite him winning in the first Ali fight he left a lot of himself in the ring that night. I personally feel if Tyson couldn't get Frazier out there in 4-5 rounds It becomes Frazier's fight to win.. Frazier got stronger as fights wore on where as Tyson was quite the opposite.. I'll go Tyson in 3, but don't believe its foregone.

Hagler vs. GGG- I think Hagler would be far too much for GGG, out smarting him all night. Easy UD for Hagler and he would have busted GGG up badly.

DLH vs. Hatton- Syle wise this is a walk in the park for DLH. He is that much bigger man, a much better boxer and puncher. I don't see this fight going past 6 rounds, it would have only been a matter of time before Hatton- walked into one of DLHs trade mark left hooks and it would have been over. I like Hatton vs. Judah better.

Vitali vs. Wlad- Vitali would have been too tough for Wlad. Would have only been matter of time before Vitali had Wlad on queer Street and stopped him.

Alvarez vs. Eubank- Very close fight. Eubank would probably have better moments but Alvarez coming on stronger down the stretch and pulling out a close/controversial decision.

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 19 Feb 2016, 09:08

Carl Froch v Joe Calzaghe - Calzaghe, Points, Wide
Mike Tyson v Joe Frazier - Tyson, Early KO
Marvin Hagler v GGG - Too close to call, but will edge towards Hagler, Points, Close
Oscar De La Hoya v Ricky Hatton - De La Hoya, Late KO
Vitali Klitschko v Wladimir Klitschko - V Klitschko, Mid KO
Chris Eubank v Saul Alverez - Eubank, Points, Close

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