Ortiz vs those boxers

[conty22]

Luis Ortiz vs Fury
Luis Ortiz vs Joshua
Luis Ortiz vs Wilder
Luis Ortiz vs Povetkin

I think he beats them all , Fury is the one who could dance around the ring and win UD. But it's hard to pick.

Ortiz is a beast

[gilgamesh]

I think he could beat them all right now, but he's in his late 30's so the skills he has now won't last too much longer I figure, and I kinda figure he gets froze out until he gets too old to have the same impact he could have now.

Someone like Joshua could possibly beat him, but we won't know for sure how good he is for a while still. The Martin fight will tell us a lot about him.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I think Joshua is the best of the bunch.

[gilgamesh]

I think Joshua is the best of the bunch.

I think he is too. Or will be in the long run, but I'm not sure he could beat Ortiz if they fought this year. Joshua needs a bit more polishing. Ortiz is as good as he's gonna get.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ortiz will get fury or wlad next year.

[gilgamesh]

Ortiz will get fury or wlad next year.

Ya think? I'd like to see that. HBO certainly seems to be getting behind him.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ortiz will get fury or wlad next year.

Ya think? I'd like to see that. HBO certainly seems to be getting behind him.

He's the mandatory as interim and the wba seems serious about losing the secondary titles.

[gilgamesh]

Ortiz will get fury or wlad next year.

Ya think? I'd like to see that. HBO certainly seems to be getting behind him.

He's the mandatory as interim and the wba seems serious about losing the secondary titles.

I hope you're right. I'd love to see it.

You mean to say they're dropping the whole "Super Champ", "Regular Champ", "Interim Champ" horsesh*t that has been a problem for them for so long? Because that would be great.

I mean there'd still be 3 belts too many in all weight classes, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Yeah, they're setting up fights in a lot of divisions. I don't pay much attention but I think chagaev is wba too. So Ortiz vs chagaev/Browne winner is a good bet. Though getting ruslan in the ring is never easy.

[gilgamesh]

Yeah, they're setting up fights in a lot of divisions. I don't pay much attention but I think chagaev is wba too. So Ortiz vs chagaev/Browne winner is a good bet. Though getting ruslan in the ring is never easy.

Does he still have issues getting cleared to fight by some commissions due to the Hepatitis thing or is it just that he doesn't want to fight often these days?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

No clue, he's on my no watch or care list.

[Ricky_]

If Wilder or Joshua fail to put an early dent in Ortiz early they get knocked out. Fury could keep him off. Povektin... i'm starting to rate Povetkin tbh. I could see him beating Ortiz.

I look forward to seeing Ortiz fight any of those 4 though, but he needs to do it quick. Stiverne took so long to win a title he was shot within 1 more fight.

[asdfjkl]

I think he would love to fight David Haye, even though David Haye doesn't even deserve a shot at him and probably doesn't dare to fight him anyway, since David is a bumfighter.

I expect Ortiz to win against Wilder and probably Povetkin as well, I don't think he's ready for AJ and I'm not sure about Fury, he will be more aggressive as Klitschko was in his first fight, but if that's enough... Fury clearly has the reach advantage.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dillian Whyte would win against Tyson Fury, this because Whyte accepts the hits before he hits himself, Klitschko didn't dare to take the hit before hitting himself, something that's pretty much impossible against a good boxer with a longer reach, like Tyson Fury.

[Lancenix]

Luis Ortiz vs Fury
Luis Ortiz vs Joshua
Luis Ortiz vs Wilder
Luis Ortiz vs Povetkin

I think he beats them all , Fury is the one who could dance around the ring and win UD. But it's hard to pick.

Ortiz is a beast

Let's see him step up. Last I heard he was fighting Tony Thompson next. His career is going laterally at this point.

[Lancenix]

Yeah, they're setting up fights in a lot of divisions. I don't pay much attention but I think chagaev is wba too. So Ortiz vs chagaev/Browne winner is a good bet. Though getting ruslan in the ring is never easy.

Does he still have issues getting cleared to fight by some commissions due to the Hepatitis thing or is it just that he doesn't want to fight often these days?

It may be a problem. Chagaev has not fought outside of Germany since 2011. So Germany is letting him fight. Would other countries and commissions let him fight? That is a good question.

[Lancenix]

I think he would love to fight David Haye, even though David Haye doesn't even deserve a shot at him and probably doesn't dare to fight him anyway, since David is a bumfighter.

I expect Ortiz to win against Wilder and probably Povetkin as well, I don't think he's ready for AJ and I'm not sure about Fury, he will be more aggressive as Klitschko was in his first fight, but if that's enough... Fury clearly has the reach advantage.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dillian Whyte would win against Tyson Fury, this because Whyte accepts the hits before he hits himself, Klitschko didn't dare to take the hit before hitting himself, something that's pretty much impossible against a good boxer with a longer reach, like Tyson Fury.

Whyte fought game and could be at least a worthy foe in the division but I do not think he beats Fury because Fury is harder to hit than people give him credit for.

[Tanzio]

Luis Ortiz vs Fury
Luis Ortiz vs Joshua
Luis Ortiz vs Wilder
Luis Ortiz vs Povetkin

I think he beats them all , Fury is the one who could dance around the ring and win UD. But it's hard to pick.

Ortiz is a beast

Let's see him step up. Last I heard he was fighting Tony Thompson next. His career is going laterally at this point.

Which of your euroheroes is ready to stepup to the North American plate, Farcenix?

[Lancenix]

Luis Ortiz vs Fury
Luis Ortiz vs Joshua
Luis Ortiz vs Wilder
Luis Ortiz vs Povetkin

I think he beats them all , Fury is the one who could dance around the ring and win UD. But it's hard to pick.

Ortiz is a beast

Let's see him step up. Last I heard he was fighting Tony Thompson next. His career is going laterally at this point.

Which of your euroheroes is ready to stepup to the North American plate, Farcenix?

Well Ortiz is a dangerous guy but I cannot see Fury turning down anyone. He certainly would. If Joshua wins that would be a great fight and if the Bronze Chicken Wilder fights Potvetkin he will lose so Potvetkin would not back down from Ortiz either. If the fights happen that are supposed to happen then you will see all four belts in Europe with three different champs. The other guy that is interesting besides Ortiz is Parker. Joshua is probably going to have a strap, Parker needs to step it up and get in this mix next. So Ortiz Joshua probably makes the most sense. That would be a hell of a matchup.

[Tanzio]

Let's see him step up. Last I heard he was fighting Tony Thompson next. His career is going laterally at this point.

Which of your euroheroes is ready to stepup to the North American plate, Farcenix?

Well Ortiz is a dangerous guy but I cannot see Fury turning down anyone. He certainly would. If Joshua wins that would be a great fight and if the Bronze Chicken Wilder fights Potvetkin he will lose so Potvetkin would not back down from Ortiz either. If the fights happen that are supposed to happen then you will see all four belts in Europe with three different champs. The other guy that is interesting besides Ortiz is Parker. Joshua is probably going to have a strap, Parker needs to step it up and get in this mix next. So Ortiz Joshua probably makes the most sense. That would be a hell of a matchup.

I agree.

[Angus young]

I think he'll loses to all of them , but not easily

[Angus young]

Yeah, they're setting up fights in a lot of divisions. I don't pay much attention but I think chagaev is wba too. So Ortiz vs chagaev/Browne winner is a good bet. Though getting ruslan in the ring is never easy.

Does he still have issues getting cleared to fight by some commissions due to the Hepatitis thing or is it just that he doesn't want to fight often these days?

It may be a problem. Chagaev has not fought outside of Germany since 2011. So Germany is letting him fight. Would other countries and commissions let him fight? That is a good question.

He has fought in Russia in too of he's last three fights

[Lancenix]

Does he still have issues getting cleared to fight by some commissions due to the Hepatitis thing or is it just that he doesn't want to fight often these days?

It may be a problem. Chagaev has not fought outside of Germany since 2011. So Germany is letting him fight. Would other countries and commissions let him fight? That is a good question.

He has fought in Russia in too of he's last three fights

Um no he has fought exclusively in Germany. You must be thinking Potvetkin maybe. If not then I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

[Angus young]

It may be a problem. Chagaev has not fought outside of Germany since 2011. So Germany is letting him fight. Would other countries and commissions let him fight? That is a good question.

He has fought in Russia in too of he's last three fights

Um no he has fought exclusively in Germany. You must be thinking Potvetkin maybe. If not then I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/24358 But he did he's next fight too . Check link

[Lancenix]

He has fought in Russia in too of he's last three fights

Um no he has fought exclusively in Germany. You must be thinking Potvetkin maybe. If not then I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/24358 But he did he's next fight too . Check link

I was thinking Pulev. My bad. I should have looked it up. My bad.

[lefty]

I think he could beat them all.