Anthony Joshua vs. Charles Martin (c) - April 9th 2016

[ashedward]

There were using Stub hub for face value ticket sells which they would say they were referring too but it looks bad when the secondary ticket sells is so prevalent on there.

[mickey1975]

That's a token gesture, and even then you have to pay the fees. There are none available at face value.

[Zubrei]

That's a token gesture, and even then you have to pay the fees. There are none available at face value.

There was no way to search for face value tickets.

I really hate touts, scum. Good to see you can still get Quigg/Frampton tickets from an official seller. Hopefully the touts will lose a bundle on unsellable tickets.

[ElJefe]

It's interesting that Hearn seems confident that, should Joshua win the title, he will be allowed to have two voluntary defences (one in June, one in November) before any mandatories.

All being well, his 2016 could go Martin - Chisora - Scott (for example) which would be a decent run of opponents anyway and is the first mandatory not likely to be Glazkov? Would be great to have Joshua vs Fury in summer 2017, both as undefeated champions

I don't really understand how the mandatory defences work. Do the ABC bodies just make the rules as they go long? Or do they all have a standard procedure? Fury was stripped of the belt immediately not giving him any voluntaries.

As Klitschko was the unified champion (WBA, WBO, IBF), the governing bodies rotated their mandatory challengers. Fury was the WBO #1 (I think), so Klitschko's next fight would have had to have been against the IBF #1, which was supposed to have been negotiated at the end of last year (his last IBF mandatory was Pulev in November 2014). Therefore when Fury won the belts the IBF tried to enforce the mandatory, however because of the rematch clause Fury's next fight is supposedly against Wlad, as a result the IBF (after pressure from Glazkov's promoter) stripped Fury of the title.

[dinkybob]

It's about time that the authorities stand up and stop the resale of tickets unless they are at face value only. Tickets appearing on stub hub at 5 times face value less than a minute after they have apparently gone on sale through official sellers is bordering on illegal. As a working father of 2 I can't afford to pay 200 quid for a ticket that should have been 40 quid. It disgusts me that people who never have any intention of gong to the venue manage to bulk buy tickets and then attempt to sell them on for profit. They are not boxing fans and they should not be encouraged by people being sausage enough to pay so much for these tickets.
Also if hearn and Joshua really have been suggesting people but from a site such as stub hub them they have also just lost my purchase of the box office event too. Remember that without the fans there are no big money fights. Look after us and we will look after you. Keep robbing us and we will walk away. Rant over. Have a good weekend all.

[wesshaw1985]

I wonder if the presser today will be lively or dull?

[MarkMcBurney]

That's a token gesture, and even then you have to pay the fees. There are none available at face value.

There was no way to search for face value tickets.

I really hate touts, scum. Good to see you can still get Quigg/Frampton tickets from an official seller. Hopefully the touts will lose a bundle on unsellable tickets.

Huh???????

[craig_minter]

It will get worse tomorrow.

Too true, such a shame but I suppose it's a practice that will always go on

Went on sale at 9am. Went on the website at 09:22 - sold out...

Was in the waiting queue at 8.30 and no luck.

But got Frampton next week so not fussed

[mickey1975]

There's a few selling face value Quigg tickets. Issac Lowe and Josh Taylor have got some.

[Rob3_142]

It's interesting that Hearn seems confident that, should Joshua win the title, he will be allowed to have two voluntary defences (one in June, one in November) before any mandatories.

All being well, his 2016 could go Martin - Chisora - Scott (for example) which would be a decent run of opponents anyway and is the first mandatory not likely to be Glazkov? Would be great to have Joshua vs Fury in summer 2017, both as undefeated champions

I don't really understand how the mandatory defences work. Do the ABC bodies just make the rules as they go long? Or do they all have a standard procedure? Fury was stripped of the belt immediately not giving him any voluntaries.

As Klitschko was the unified champion (WBA, WBO, IBF), the governing bodies rotated their mandatory challengers. Fury was the WBO #1 (I think), so Klitschko's next fight would have had to have been against the IBF #1, which was supposed to have been negotiated at the end of last year (his last IBF mandatory was Pulev in November 2014). Therefore when Fury won the belts the IBF tried to enforce the mandatory, however because of the rematch clause Fury's next fight is supposedly against Wlad, as a result the IBF (after pressure from Glazkov's promoter) stripped Fury of the title.

Thanks ElJefe, that makes a lot more sense.

[Rob3_142]

It's about time that the authorities stand up and stop the resale of tickets unless they are at face value only. Tickets appearing on stub hub at 5 times face value less than a minute after they have apparently gone on sale through official sellers is bordering on illegal. As a working father of 2 I can't afford to pay 200 quid for a ticket that should have been 40 quid. It disgusts me that people who never have any intention of gong to the venue manage to bulk buy tickets and then attempt to sell them on for profit. They are not boxing fans and they should not be encouraged by people being sausage enough to pay so much for these tickets.
Also if hearn and Joshua really have been suggesting people but from a site such as stub hub them they have also just lost my purchase of the box office event too. Remember that without the fans there are no big money fights. Look after us and we will look after you. Keep robbing us and we will walk away. Rant over. Have a good weekend all.

Absolutely 100% agree Bob. Sad state of affairs.

But as ever, even at the inflated prices, you know they're going to quite comfortably sell out, and whatever me or you do won't impact sales and their intentions.

Another example of where independent governance would benefit the fans, but probably not the internal management of boxing.

[wesshaw1985]

Presser - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJri9lQ-6tI
Head 2 Head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq0Iyd2uroE
Charles Martin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQDWxd83isM
Anthony Joshua - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHmi9RKaVJk
Eddie Hearn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTJqNZYlowA

[Zubrei]

That's a token gesture, and even then you have to pay the fees. There are none available at face value.

There was no way to search for face value tickets.

I really hate touts, scum. Good to see you can still get Quigg/Frampton tickets from an official seller. Hopefully the touts will lose a bundle on unsellable tickets.

Huh???????

Tickets still available
http://www.eventim.co.uk/tickets.html?f ... iliate=MAN

[Bubblegum]

50/50 fight, but Martin has a better chin. AJ will be knocked out

[Rexob]

I think this will be one of the most one-sided fights in world championship history with Joshua not even breaking sweat knocking out Martin inside the first minute of the fight, Martin is diabolical!

[fightfan95]

When this first got announced I thought it would be very competitive but never thought it would be 50/50. Since then I've watched the last few Martin fights and I can only see him being a punchbag for Joshua until he gets KO'd or the ref stops it. I will be surprised if it goes more than 6 rounds.

[wesshaw1985]

Conor Benn to make debut - http://www.BS.com/joshua-marti ... ut--101575

[Mimmy]

Conor Benn to make debut - http://www.BS.com/joshua-marti ... ut--101575

The British scene is starting to become more interesting again. Great to see this kid making his debut. Hope hes like his dad but thats asking a lot.

[Neil Gee]

I don't know why they have taken this match at this stage of his career. The Whyte fight was the first time AJ really learned anything as a pro and he did show clearly he's got things to learn. AJ's got time on his side, he could be a great heavyweight, but I don't see what the rush is, rushing him is one thing that could stop him from being great. The various versions of the title are not going away, they will still be there in a year or two when AJ had learned his craft properly.

As it happens I think AJ can beat Martin, but what then? Are we to be treated to a series of 'safe' defenses in the Deontay Wilder mould while AJ continues to polish his rough edges?

Most promoters bring their charges through the rankings carefully before pitching them in at this level and there's a good reason for that. I think this is reckless matchmaking.

[Horse]

As it happens I think AJ can beat Martin, but what then? Are we to be treated to a series of 'safe' defenses in the Deontay Wilder mould while AJ continues to polish his rough edges?

Yes. Isn't that what you think he should do?

Most promoters bring their charges through the rankings carefully before pitching them in at this level and there's a good reason for that. I think this is reckless matchmaking.

The British title is perhaps more dangerous as he'll have to defend it against Haye, Chisora, Price, H. Fury, Whyte etc. to win it outright.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Most promoters bring their charges through the rankings carefully before pitching them in at this level and there's a good reason for that. I think this is reckless matchmaking.

This level? He's facing Charles Martin. Who isn't very good.

[Mimmy]

I don't know why they have taken this match at this stage of his career. The Whyte fight was the first time AJ really learned anything as a pro and he did show clearly he's got things to learn. AJ's got time on his side, he could be a great heavyweight, but I don't see what the rush is, rushing him is one thing that could stop him from being great. The various versions of the title are not going away, they will still be there in a year or two when AJ had learned his craft properly.

As it happens I think AJ can beat Martin, but what then? Are we to be treated to a series of 'safe' defenses in the Deontay Wilder mould while AJ continues to polish his rough edges?

Most promoters bring their charges through the rankings carefully before pitching them in at this level and there's a good reason for that. I think this is reckless matchmaking.

Its the safe option. I could have seen Haye jumping in her eif AJ wasnt interested in the fight. Im sure a defence against Haye would have attracted a lot of money for Martin. If AJ left this alone it could be more difficult to win it at a later stage. Im sure Team AJ are very confident in this fight.

[Rob3_142]

I don't know why they have taken this match at this stage of his career. The Whyte fight was the first time AJ really learned anything as a pro and he did show clearly he's got things to learn. AJ's got time on his side, he could be a great heavyweight, but I don't see what the rush is, rushing him is one thing that could stop him from being great. The various versions of the title are not going away, they will still be there in a year or two when AJ had learned his craft properly.

As it happens I think AJ can beat Martin, but what then? Are we to be treated to a series of 'safe' defenses in the Deontay Wilder mould while AJ continues to polish his rough edges?

Most promoters bring their charges through the rankings carefully before pitching them in at this level and there's a good reason for that. I think this is reckless matchmaking.

Well first and foremost, Joshua's opponents so far on paper are much better than anyone Martin has ever faced, so I don't think anyone expect anything other than a comprehensive win for AJ.

Secondly, this is the IBF. Have you taken a look at who's in the IBF rankings? There isn't even a 1 and 2 mandatory position yet, so they have to have a load of eliminator's before he can even have a mandatory, which won't be for another 12 months anyway.

Finally, and most importantly, so what? Him taking 'soft defences' to hone his skills is exactly what he'd be doing if he didn't take the Martin fight. And he won't likely be operating with bums anymore, he'd likely still be mixing with world level. There's probably only 4-5 in the division that he's got any risk against, and he wouldn't be mixing with them anyway, so in actual fact, taking this fight changes very little to his development.

[mpdfc]

I don't know why they have taken this match at this stage of his career. The Whyte fight was the first time AJ really learned anything as a pro and he did show clearly he's got things to learn. AJ's got time on his side, he could be a great heavyweight, but I don't see what the rush is, rushing him is one thing that could stop him from being great. The various versions of the title are not going away, they will still be there in a year or two when AJ had learned his craft properly.

As it happens I think AJ can beat Martin, but what then? Are we to be treated to a series of 'safe' defenses in the Deontay Wilder mould while AJ continues to polish his rough edges?

Most promoters bring their charges through the rankings carefully before pitching them in at this level and there's a good reason for that. I think this is reckless matchmaking.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Joshua got him out of there within six rounds. Charles Martin is one of the worst HW champions in years.

Perfect opportunity for Josh / Matchroom.

[Neil Gee]

I don't know why they have taken this match at this stage of his career. The Whyte fight was the first time AJ really learned anything as a pro and he did show clearly he's got things to learn. AJ's got time on his side, he could be a great heavyweight, but I don't see what the rush is, rushing him is one thing that could stop him from being great. The various versions of the title are not going away, they will still be there in a year or two when AJ had learned his craft properly.

As it happens I think AJ can beat Martin, but what then? Are we to be treated to a series of 'safe' defenses in the Deontay Wilder mould while AJ continues to polish his rough edges?

Most promoters bring their charges through the rankings carefully before pitching them in at this level and there's a good reason for that. I think this is reckless matchmaking.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Joshua got him out of there within six rounds. Charles Martin is one of the worst HW champions in years.

Perfect opportunity for Josh / Matchroom.

Yeh I wouldn't be surprised if AJ wins early but like you say it's against a bit of a joke 'champion'. My point is AJ could be good enough to unify the World titles. With another 5 to 10 good learning fights he would be unbeatable. Right now he isn't. Why spoil a legend in the making by pushing him up in level too quickly?