Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

[simonwalsh]

What has Quigg done in terms of playing mind games? Turned up to all the press conferences with a smile on his face? Brutal.

That's exactly it. Quigg has barely had to try and Frampton's been wound up. Sparring stories were brought up at the first pressers, but since then little and Frampton's still got a bee in his bonnet. Probably only sprung the dressing room thing as bit of a Hail Mary last gasp attempt. What's probably most telling is that when it was "sorted" Quigg said alright then and left it, where as Frampton went to great lengths to explain/distance himself from how completely not bothered he was about it.

Clearly you didn't watch the gloves are off...

I haven't yet.

[Old Jack J]

For me , its an interesting fight .. I honestly can't pick the winner , I would like to see Qigg grab the honors . mainly because he just seems to be a down to earth good guy , always smiling and a little bit dumb . with no malicous ness in him just a good honest loyal fighter , Frampton well he plays the game a bit better he's a bit more mature and his loyalty to his trainer and camp will last for about the same time has the dollars keep coming . , which is fair enough .

But the loser in this for me is Shane Mguigan ,,, I watch this guy and think what have you done has a coach , wheres the runs on the board , wheres the years of being an assistant and learning your craft ,, and being a trainer is like being a boxer it takes time to learn ,,, He's acting like a trainer of the stars , loves the limelight , and seems to love the press confrences , ,, I think this fight is so even that if i have to give anyone an advantage , however slight it goes to Quigg , mainly because say what you want about Callagher , love him or hate him , he does have the runs on the board , he has brought kids from scratch , he has took good boxers and made them better , he has suffered the highs and lows ,

Shane is fast becoming just a celebrity trainer , who gets the job because of hype and bullshit .. Lets see how he goes if they lose and then have to put Haye and Groves in with a 50-50 fuight

Let's not forget that Shane took Flintoff to an unbeaten record. That's got to get runs on the board.

[ste1983]

Anyone seen a running order with times?

[coneye]

For me , its an interesting fight .. I honestly can't pick the winner , I would like to see Qigg grab the honors . mainly because he just seems to be a down to earth good guy , always smiling and a little bit dumb . with no malicous ness in him just a good honest loyal fighter , Frampton well he plays the game a bit better he's a bit more mature and his loyalty to his trainer and camp will last for about the same time has the dollars keep coming . , which is fair enough .

But the loser in this for me is Shane Mguigan ,,, I watch this guy and think what have you done has a coach , wheres the runs on the board , wheres the years of being an assistant and learning your craft ,, and being a trainer is like being a boxer it takes time to learn ,,, He's acting like a trainer of the stars , loves the limelight , and seems to love the press confrences , ,, I think this fight is so even that if i have to give anyone an advantage , however slight it goes to Quigg , mainly because say what you want about Callagher , love him or hate him , he does have the runs on the board , he has brought kids from scratch , he has took good boxers and made them better , he has suffered the highs and lows ,

Shane is fast becoming just a celebrity trainer , who gets the job because of hype and bullshit .. Lets see how he goes if they lose and then have to put Haye and Groves in with a 50-50 fuight

Let's not forget that Shane took Flintoff to an unbeaten record. That's got to get runs on the board.

Sorry , I had'nt thought about that masterpeice ..

[Counter-puncher]

For me , its an interesting fight .. I honestly can't pick the winner , I would like to see Qigg grab the honors . mainly because he just seems to be a down to earth good guy , always smiling and a little bit dumb . with no malicous ness in him just a good honest loyal fighter , Frampton well he plays the game a bit better he's a bit more mature and his loyalty to his trainer and camp will last for about the same time has the dollars keep coming . , which is fair enough .

But the loser in this for me is Shane Mguigan ,,, I watch this guy and think what have you done has a coach , wheres the runs on the board , wheres the years of being an assistant and learning your craft ,, and being a trainer is like being a boxer it takes time to learn ,,, He's acting like a trainer of the stars , loves the limelight , and seems to love the press confrences , ,, I think this fight is so even that if i have to give anyone an advantage , however slight it goes to Quigg , mainly because say what you want about Callagher , love him or hate him , he does have the runs on the board , he has brought kids from scratch , he has took good boxers and made them better , he has suffered the highs and lows ,

Shane is fast becoming just a celebrity trainer , who gets the job because of hype and bullshit .. Lets see how he goes if they lose and then have to put Haye and Groves in with a 50-50 fuight

Let's not forget that Shane took Flintoff to an unbeaten record. That's got to get runs on the board.

[danamba7]

Frampton has seem pissed off. However, it doesn't just follow he will fight uncontrolled....he is likely to just want the fight on, and that is when the business really starts.

Too much amateur psychology here.

i feckin hate all the 'such and such has won this round of the mindgames battle' shite you get on forums, just cos fighter X didn't look fighter Y directly in the eye in the 19th staredown conducted that day.....

It is like the WWE mindset...so simplistic. I think some people wouldn't be surprised if Eddie jumped in and hit Quigg with a chair, as he leaves up the ramp at the MEN with his new subject, Carl Frampton!

Stop moaning for the sake of moaning! When the fight happens, people will discus the fight. When we're in the build up, people will discuss the build up. Like it or not, mind games are part of that.

[Counter-puncher]

Stop moaning for the sake of moaning! When the fight happens, people will discus the fight. When we're in the build up, people will discuss the build up. Like it or not, mind games are part of that.

ooooh, the Quigg fans are showing they're rattled here #round1toFrampton

[danamba7]

Stop moaning for the sake of moaning! When the fight happens, people will discus the fight. When we're in the build up, people will discuss the build up. Like it or not, mind games are part of that.

ooooh, the Quigg fans are showing they're rattled here #round1toFrampton

Brilliant

[whiskey]

Barry, Shane, Jake ? and Blain McGuigan on the Frampton entourage payroll. Then I read that McGuigan's daughter is a secretary or something too?

It must be eyewatering the expenses bill for this gig. All those flights/trains/hotels/meals coming out of Cyclone kitty.

Then again Frampton likened himself to the band U2 yesterday in the popularity stakes, so he must have billions to spend.

[Counter-puncher]

Barry, Shane, Jake ? and Blain McGuigan on the Frampton entourage payroll. Then I read that McGuigan's daughter is a secretary or something too?

It must be eyewatering the expenses bill for this gig. All those flights/trains/hotels/meals coming out of Cyclone kitty.
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#mealticket.

[Boxerbeetle]

Stop moaning for the sake of moaning! When the fight happens, people will discus the fight. When we're in the build up, people will discuss the build up. Like it or not, mind games are part of that.

ooooh, the Quigg fans are showing they're rattled here #round1toFrampton

[GlobalBox]

This is absolutely farcical, McGuigan is saying that the fight will be called off if this dressing room nonsense is not resolved to his liking. He will accept the dressing room being locked up and no one having it but will not accept Quigg using it.

It's clearly a bluff as surely not even McGuigan/Hearn would allow a fight of this magnitude with all the TV and full arena and people travelling many miles to attend already in the city etc etc to be called off.

Brinkmanship will push this all the way by the looks of it, I reckon it will just end up being locked up and none of them using it, brings back memories of "its my ball and I'm taking it home.

Absolutely pathetic.

[MightyWarrior]

Carl is probably on edge as he's starving himself to make weight...he looks huge for the weight, but i actually don't think he looks as drained as I was expecting - weigh in today will be interesting ....I'm starting to sway back to Carl winning this, but really hard to know for sure, if he's weight drained, then the McGuigens are making a monumental mistake taking on a hard hitting maniac like Quigg..

[johnswan1]

This is absolutely farcical, McGuigan is saying that the fight will be called off if this dressing room nonsense is not resolved to his liking. He will accept the dressing room being locked up and no one having it but will not accept Quigg using it.

It's clearly a bluff as surely not even McGuigan/Hearn would allow a fight of this magnitude with all the TV and full arena and people travelling many miles to attend already in the city etc etc to be called off.

Brinkmanship will push this all the way by the looks of it, I reckon it will just end up being locked up and none of them using it, brings back memories of "its my ball and I'm taking it home.

Absolutely pathetic.

Quigg's camp should call their bluff and take the dressing room. If the vast majority of fans are Framptons and they have traveled a long way, who do you think would get all the stick if Frampton walked away over a dressing room - Frampton or Quigg?

[GlobalBox]

This is absolutely farcical, McGuigan is saying that the fight will be called off if this dressing room nonsense is not resolved to his liking. He will accept the dressing room being locked up and no one having it but will not accept Quigg using it.

It's clearly a bluff as surely not even McGuigan/Hearn would allow a fight of this magnitude with all the TV and full arena and people travelling many miles to attend already in the city etc etc to be called off.

Brinkmanship will push this all the way by the looks of it, I reckon it will just end up being locked up and none of them using it, brings back memories of "its my ball and I'm taking it home.

Absolutely pathetic.

Quigg's camp should call their bluff and take the dressing room. If the vast majority of fans are Framptons and they have traveled a long way, who do you think would get all the stick if Frampton walked away over a dressing room - Frampton or Quigg?

Totally agree with you John

[GlobalBox]

It's a real shame the build up to the fight should be about the fighters, there good points, there weaknesses, there strengths etc, instead we have had a load of absolute round hairy things from all the other parties, Trainers, Promoters, etc, the sad thing is they have tried to sell it as taking the pressure of there boxers, unfortunately I think it's because all parties like to be the centre of attention and it is now descending into farce with the dressing room crap.

I keep expecting Sky to change there box office advert to something like Frampton v Quigg - Who gets the big dressing room - available On Sky box office etc etc!!!

[manchester-mexican]

Their

[fightfan95]

Ok arguments in press conferences and the slight shove are entertaining but, the whole situation about the dressing rooms is a bit pathetic - I can see both camps reason's but surely with the amount of money that is involved this shouldn't really be an issue to argue over and even threaten to call it off - with Fury v Klitschko the wrap situation was an actual valid reason to call it off.

As they are both world champs and both deserve to have the 'A' side of things - they should have the same level of dressing room. As Frampton has got pretty much everything so far (being the left side of the poster, ring walk second etc.) he should have given the room to Quigg but then the guy who is the 'A' side should have the home dressing room. So it is all about mind games.

When 2 fighters argue and there is bad blood between them I normally really like one and dislike the other (e.g. liked Cleverly disliked Bellew, liked Groves disliked Froch, like AJ disliked Whyte) but in this I don't mind either I prefer Quigg but don't dislike Frampton. Barry Mcguigan is slightly getting on my nerves recently and who was that clown Blain as well on the table yesterday

[Stevieb8006]

Ive backed frampton from day one but hope quigg smashes him now. He acted an arse at the final presser

[coneye]

Thing is though with all the money at stake , the build up , fans travelling ect ect ect .. It would be great to hear Quigg just say enough is enough , this is the one point i'm not letting you have your own way on , so fornicating walk if you want to .

But has much has i would like to see that , they can't risk it , Because the Mcguiggins especielly Barry seems to think its all about him , He seems so insecure i think he would actually walk I think Barry see's this has his big move into being a fully fledged promoter on a huge scale , and is determinned to have things his own way ,,, Whats gonna happen if his man loses , and changes camps who would want to deal with him , There fast becoming Irlands version of the Eubanks ,, Just put them in the too hard basket

[Ricky_]

Frampton i'm sure is just trying to play some mind games but in chess terms he's placed himself in check.

He says no way is he backing down in the dressing room issue.

So either he does gives in, and has his tail between his legs, or he actually pulls out the fight and becomes a complete laughing stock, not just in the eyes of boxing fans but also the casual-fan PPV audience. Hearn/Sky would really stick it to him.

[MightyWarrior]

NO WAY he calls it off, so I imagine after he's had his steak and chips after the weigh in he'll say let the scrub have his changing room, he'll need a nice place to lie down after I bring him down to earth like the crack of doom.

[thepocketrocket]

What time is the weigh in?

[whiskey]

"Making Weight"


Has anyone noticed what a huge deal Frampton and McGuigan (Shane, Barry and now this Blane fellow) keep making about making the IBF check-weight ?

Saying Carl has made the IBF check weight 7 times now on the morning of the fight, and "let's see how Quigg handles it" etc etc.

By saying that, they are maybe failing to realise that they are admitting that it's hell for Carl to do it. Also look how well Carl performed the last time he made this IBF morning check-weight? he looked subpar and you wonder of it's taking a bigger piece out of him every time he does it.

Whereas Quigg looks completely puzzled by their statement. Scott has always struck me as almost OCD in his approach to diet, training and rest - and that making weight is of zero concern to him.

Quigg normally starts slow but gathers more and more momentum. I feel like perhaps the opposite will be true of Carl and have reservations how well he will be in the later rounds.

I forecast that maybe win or lose, he could well move up after this fight. It could be part of the reason it's finally happening at last. That making super-bantam is becoming a real slog for the Belfast fighter.

[expe]

Carl is probably on edge as he's starving himself to make weight...he looks huge for the weight, but i actually don't think he looks as drained as I was expecting - weigh in today will be interesting ....I'm starting to sway back to Carl winning this, but really hard to know for sure, if he's weight drained, then the McGuigens are making a monumental mistake taking on a hard hitting maniac like Quigg..

He was probably only a lb or so over yesterday anyway. If there's anyone that's struggling I'd say it's Quigg, every time I see him training he's got the sweatsuit on.