Chris Arreola failing drug test after bout with Kauffman

[punchoutsb]

At this point, anyone against marijuana use for boxers and football players (and adults) is a Christian, an idiot, or didn't learn anything about drugs past health class in school.

In fact, the general level of misinformation about weed is startling in this day and age.

You still never seem to provide the quotes I ask for...

[ttornado]

At this point, anyone against marijuana use for boxers and football players (and adults) is a Christian, an idiot, or didn't learn anything about drugs past health class in school.

In fact, the general level of misinformation about weed is startling in this day and age.

What about the significant analgesic effects of cannabanoids?
You wouldn't disagree with keeping opium illegal in sport?
Then consider that some studies show similar levels of analgesia; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20073408

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Nop, if you smoked weed can be tested for up to 3 months.

Incorrect

THC stores in fat cells; lipolysis increases the chances that you test positive at a much later date, dependent on how much you use and how fat you are.

There is no guaranteed timeline for not testing positive for weed, especially if you get big and fat like Arreola.

There is an absolute guarantee that nobody will ever smoke a joint and fail a piss test 3 months later. I don't care if they're 500 pounds. Chris is fat, he also sweats a lot and presumably drinks a lot of water. He could be clean as early as 5 days.

[punchoutsb]

Incorrect

THC stores in fat cells; lipolysis increases the chances that you test positive at a much later date, dependent on how much you use and how fat you are.

There is no guaranteed timeline for not testing positive for weed, especially if you get big and fat like Arreola.

There is an absolute guarantee that nobody will ever smoke a joint and fail a piss test 3 months later. I don't care if they're 500 pounds. Chris is fat, he also sweats a lot and presumably drinks a lot of water. He could be clean as early as 5 days.

I agree three months is a pretty long time to piss dirty, but don't underestimate THC's ability to hang around. Sweating and drinking water won't make a difference unless he's actually losing a lot of fat. Chris is a pig, he's got a pretty significant amount of fat cells for THC to chill in. Of course how often he uses is the most important piece of the equation. After two weeks of abstinence over a gram can still be in your system; if you smoke a lot of doobs and get really fat its not implausible to piss dirty several weeks or perhaps months after the last joint.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

1 month is an eternity to piss dirty and water and activity 100% affect it.

[punchoutsb]

1 month is an eternity to piss dirty and water and activity 100% affect it.

I'm talking about THC stored in fat cells, not that already in the blood stream. It takes lipolysis to get that fat cell to spill the THC.

[ttornado]

I agree three months is a pretty long time to piss dirty,

I think the 3 months you are referring to, is from the max possible length of THC hair tests

[punchoutsb]

I agree three months is a pretty long time to piss dirty,

I think the 3 months you are referring to, is from the max possible length of THC hair tests

It is. I believe 90 days is the cutoff on what they'll accept from hair tests.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Yes, I'm talking about piss tests. Which is what they use in boxing. Nobody is pissing dirty from 3 months ago. Unlikely you'd be dirty after 10 days.

[punchoutsb]

Again, you can piss dirty for at least two weeks, with cessation of the study occurring at 16 days so that two week period is not a guaranteed end date:

Bonnet U., Specka M., Stratmann U., Ochwadt R., Scherbaum N. (2014). Abstinence phenomena of chronic cannabis-addicts prospectively monitored during controlled inpatient detoxification: Cannabis withdrawal syndrome and its correlation with delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol and -metabolites in serum. Drug and Alcohol Dependence. 143(1):189-197.

THC has been found in significant levels in human fat cells over four weeks after complete abstinence:

Johansson E, Noren K, Sjovall J, Halldin MM. Determination of delta 1-tetrahydrocannabinol in human fat biopsies from marihuana users by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry. Biomed Chromatogr. 1989;3:35–38.

Getting really fat (like Chris does/is) and smoking a lot of pot will lead to accrual of THC in fat cells. THC is released back into the blood stream when those fat cells are burned, kinda like what should be happening when he's training for a fight.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Well, you've gone from 90 days down to 2 weeks. My work is done.

[punchoutsb]

Well, you've gone from 90 days down to 2 weeks. My work is done.

I never said 90 days, but you said four which is wrong

[SaadOffTheDeck]

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[punchoutsb]

[asdfjkl]

Well, you've gone from 90 days down to 2 weeks. My work is done.

I just googled it a bit and with a 10 year + user was tested positive after 67 days and a rarely user 42 days according to a Dutch testlab, but most are tested negative within 2 weeks. So I won't say that you're stoned for 3 months, but traceble? Yes, it can be possible after quite a long time.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Google isn't your friend here. They've been spewing nonsense on this topic for decades.