Leo Santa Cruz (c) vs. Carl Frampton - July 30th 2016

Santa Cruz (c) vs. Frampton Winner and How?

Poll ended at 28 Feb 2016, 20:30

Leo Santa Cruz Stoppage
15
14%
Leo Santa Cruz Decision
41
38%
Draw
3
3%
Carl Frampton Decision
38
36%
Carl Frampton Stoppage
10
9%
 
Total votes: 107

Supremo
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Supremo »

Without doubt he SHOULD fight Rigo as he should be seeking the establish himself as the best in the division. He won't be allowed to go near him though.
Crease
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Crease »

In my view The Jackals realistically has 2 options.

Either he fights Shingo Wake (as I think he will) and avoid being stripped of his IBF Title, in what would be a glorious homecoming at The Oddyssey.

Or he takes the ultimate challenge against Rigondeaux - which really would be a contest to decide who the conclusive Number One is in the division.

If Frampton both these fights by the end of the year, he truly will have cemented his place as an All-Time Great Super Bantamweight.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by watsupdoc87 »

he done what he had to tonight, easily enough i think.
id like to see him fight wake mando next then rigo after that and sow up the division as i dont think santa cruz will drop back down and doesnt really want anything to do with frampton or any top fighters if he can :bag:
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Tarkus »

Crease wrote: Or he takes the ultimate challenge against Rigondeaux - which really would be a contest to decide who the conclusive Number One is in the division.
Number one in the division is well known as it is. Frampton should aim to take the spot from the man.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by crusader »

Fight Wake then Rigo.

Frampton didn't look good despite deserving the win today, but I still wouldn't be shocked if he beat Rigo and it would greatly boost his reputation, as least among the sizable group of fans who seem to think that Rigo is some type of boxing god.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

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I think he moves up.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by lillywhite14 »

crusader wrote:Fight Wake then Rigo.

Frampton didn't look good despite deserving the win today, but I still wouldn't be shocked if he beat Rigo and it would greatly boost his reputation, as least among the sizable group of fans who seem to think that Rigo is some type of boxing god.
Rigo is old. That's the only reason Frampton might beat him. There's the counter argument for any win over Rigo, and if it happens it will be trotted out regularly.

I don't think they fight Rigo anyway. Too much risk for not enough reward.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

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If he stayed at SBW, I'd say fulfil the mandatory requirements, first fight Wake, then fight Rigondeaux, IF you still have belts after that, look for Donaire for a pay day then maybe a Quigg rematch.
If he is still unbeaten after that run, look to other titles and any domestic rivals who have emerged in that time.

But I don't think he'll stay at the weight so Santa Cruiz it is.
He's been in talks with him before when he was at SBM, so I think it's one that'd interest them at FW
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by tigermoth87 »

I hope he fights Rigo, with Rigo's shaky jaw Frampton does stand a chance.

Still it's a fight I won't be watching. Rigo's fights are like being water boarded.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Ian1973 »

Frampton should face Rigo.

It's a fight I'd hate to watch though, if there's one guy who bores me rigid it's Rigondeaux.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by ShadrachSimmo »

ThereByTheGrace wrote:I voted McDonnell! I demand it!!
We need to push for this.

Someone has to make some calls.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by davie »

ShadrachSimmo wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:I voted McDonnell! I demand it!!
We need to push for this.

Someone has to make some calls.
Let's be honest, Camp Eddie is making the call as we speak.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

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If he doesn't fight rigor then he has no interest in proving how good he is me will have lost respect from anynone that cares about the actual sport of boxing and not just maximal money generating.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by wesshaw1985 »

I wouldn't mind a return to Belfast next for Carl in the summer with Quigg as co-main,
Frampton vs. Wake
Quigg vs. Avalos
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

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wesshaw1985 wrote:I wouldn't mind a return to Belfast next for Carl in the summer with Quigg as co-main,
Frampton vs. Wake
Quigg vs. Avalos
Avalos? You're kidding right, that kid is done.

Quigg vs Servania or Pagara would be much better choices
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by wesshaw1985 »

Boxing Prospect wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:I wouldn't mind a return to Belfast next for Carl in the summer with Quigg as co-main,
Frampton vs. Wake
Quigg vs. Avalos
Avalos? You're kidding right, that kid is done.

Quigg vs Servania or Pagara would be much better choices
it would be a comeback fight, simply to get Quigg out in Belfast and potentially build a rematch.
After losing last night maybe Quigg could fight Julio Ceja?
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

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Hugo Ruiz beat Julio Ceja for the WBC Title lastnight and Santa Cruz stopped Kiko in 5 rounds...
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Taansend wrote: Fight Rigo (who will be almost 36) & then go up against Lee Selby At Cardiff Arms*.

* - Assuming Rigo wins then Frampton wins & Selby wins whoever he fights next :lol:
I reckon you're showing your age a bit there mate - Cardiff Arms Park has a capacity of about 12,000 these days! Guessing you mean either the Millennium Stadium (which replaced the old Cardiff Arms) or the new Cardiff City Stadium?
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Counter-puncher »

No comments on Frampton - Santa Cruz?

That was the name on team Framptons lips lat night
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Taansend »

Boxerbeetle wrote:
Taansend wrote: Fight Rigo (who will be almost 36) & then go up against Lee Selby At Cardiff Arms*.

* - Assuming Rigo wins then Frampton wins & Selby wins whoever he fights next :lol:
I reckon you're showing your age a bit there mate - Cardiff Arms Park has a capacity of about 12,000 these days! Guessing you mean either the Millennium Stadium (which replaced the old Cardiff Arms) or the new Cardiff City Stadium?
Cheers :salut:
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Crease »

Just watched the Post Fight Press Conference and both Barry & Frampton have stated that they see Leo Santa Cruz as the "obvious" opponent which means that he''ll be moving up to Featherweight.

In which case, I would be expecting Eddie Hearn to quickly manoeuvre Quigg in to fighting Shingo Wake for the vacant IBF Title.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Andrew »

I want Carl to fight Rigo next but out Shingo Wake as it is more realistic.

Santa Cruz is grossly over rated I have said this for years an call me crazy but I would still fancy Quigg to beat him even at featherweight. I still think Frampton makes him look silly his matchmaking has been pathetic Mares was a ( way way way overdue) great fight then he fights Frampton and Quiggs leftovers with a weight advantage......... Protected won't fight Frampton.

Would love Frampton Donaire actually but it's Arum and Haymon :brick:
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Counter-puncher »

LSC seems like a strange choice to me.

He's technically-horrible, and doubtless Frampton could look good for a bit, but LSC is nothing if not strong and relentless, and I'm not sure a cyborg type like that, a weight above in his first outing there, is ideal for Frampton.

I would be less surprised if it was someone shite at 122, or maybe even a 'massive ppv' with Selby at 126.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by Stuarty »

I think we've seen the best of Frampton at SuperBantam and now is the right time to move up. He's flattered to deceive in his last two bouts and he has to move up to get the most out of his undoubted talent. The featherweight division has bigger and better names than SuperBantam and Quigg could easily move up with him so the rematch is there. LSC is a good name and a nice payday so I'd like to see him take that fight next.
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Re: Next For Carl Frampton?

Post by crusader »

Counter-puncher wrote:LSC seems like a strange choice to me.

He's technically-horrible, and doubtless Frampton could look good for a bit, but LSC is nothing if not strong and relentless, and I'm not sure a cyborg type like that, a weight above in his first outing there, is ideal for Frampton.

I would be less surprised if it was someone shite at 122, or maybe even a 'massive ppv' with Selby at 126.
Agree

LSC's size and persistent physicality would be too much IMO. He's a punching machine (he threw 142 in the opening round on Saturday and generally stays busy late) and would never pull a Quigg.
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