Tanzio wrote:IMO, they both knew, waltzed the waltz, and planned to generate a rematch based on the injury. Then the house of cards collapsed due to IVs, denial of pain killers, and most importantly the stench of a rotten show, wreaking of fraud.
No one cares about your BS theory, it's all just simpleminded BS you're talking with no proof whatsoever.
Manny was busted in his BS lies about swimming in Saltwater supposedly healing him, he's proved him own self to be a fraud and anyone who believes he had an injury at all is just as much a Bullshitter as he is.
Tanzio wrote:IMO, they both knew, waltzed the waltz, and planned to generate a rematch based on the injury. Then the house of cards collapsed due to IVs, denial of pain killers, and most importantly the stench of a rotten show, wreaking of fraud.
No one cares about your BS theory, it's all just simpleminded BS you're talking with no proof whatsoever.
Manny was busted in his BS lies about swimming in Saltwater supposedly healing him, he's proved him own self to be a fraud and anyone who believes he had an injury at all is just as much a Bullshitter as he is.
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
All BS, I guarantee the truth will come out about his FAKE shoulder injury, it wasn't hurting him in the 4th or 6th nor was it hurting him when he was in that park throwing multiple combos at the air.
Manny is a Liar and they can spin it any way they want, he scammed all his fans.
It's silly to say that Manny faked an injury that he ended up having surgery for weeks later. Let's not "grassy knoll" theory this thing now. The guy HAD surgery. But having said that, it's just a minor shoulder tear we are talking about here nothing that i feel would have changed the outcome that night. I've had tears and repair in both shoulders and neither of them affected my performance on the football field or wrestling mat. My doctor said that most people are walking around with shoulder tears and don't even know.
So you can say Manny's using a pathetic excuse but you can't really say he faked having the injury.
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
All BS, I guarantee the truth will come out about his FAKE shoulder injury, it wasn't hurting him in the 4th or 6th nor was it hurting him when he was in that park throwing multiple combos at the air.
Manny is a Liar and they can spin it any way they want, he scammed all his fans.
It's silly to say that Manny faked an injury that he ended up having surgery for weeks later. Let's not "grassy knoll" theory this thing now. The guy HAD surgery. But having said that, it's just a minor shoulder tear we are talking about here nothing that i feel would have changed the outcome that night. I've had tears and repair in both shoulders and neither of them affected my performance on the football field or wrestling mat. My doctor said that most people are walking around with shoulder tears and don't even know.
So you can say Manny's using a pathetic excuse but you can't really say he faked having the injury.
caldo2025 wrote:
Manny had surgery, he just didn't take any PT after and swam in the ocean instead to recoup. And he did ask for a Terodol shot before the flight with Floyd but Floyd said "no way" while on the phone with an illegal IV in his arm. So this wasn't very factual above.
Say what you want about Manny and the shitstorm he's in now but he could have easily postponed the fight to get his shoulder attended to but he sucked it up and fought the fight. Integrity move there and also a money grab.
Today's fighters need to have some negative repercussions for postponing a big fight like this. X-ray should be shared with the other camp proving the injuries were worthy. Most postponements were handled this way in the past but now boxers don't have to prove a thing. It's bullshit. This fight was too important for Thurman to cancel on a bullshit injury that he hasn't substantiated. If he's able to prove it and shows the evidence than I'm good. But if not, Thurman should be called out for the coward he is. No ones 100% after camp. It's hell for most boxers. Just like training camp in football. You suck it up and do ur best unless you're a pussy who's unsure of himself. Thurman is a pussy unless otherwise confirmed in my book.
All BS, I guarantee the truth will come out about his FAKE shoulder injury, it wasn't hurting him in the 4th or 6th nor was it hurting him when he was in that park throwing multiple combos at the air.
Manny is a Liar and they can spin it any way they want, he scammed all his fans.
IMO, they both knew, waltzed the waltz, and planned to generate a rematch based on the injury. Then the house of cards collapsed due to IVs, denial of pain killers, and most importantly the stench of a rotten show, wreaking of fraud.
If you wanted to stage it so you would have a rematch, why would you put on such a turgid boring show - it was less entertaining than figure skating - and as a result, there's bugger all demand for a rematch.
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
All BS, I guarantee the truth will come out about his FAKE shoulder injury, it wasn't hurting him in the 4th or 6th nor was it hurting him when he was in that park throwing multiple combos at the air.
Manny is a Liar and they can spin it any way they want, he scammed all his fans.
IMO, they both knew, waltzed the waltz, and planned to generate a rematch based on the injury. Then the house of cards collapsed due to IVs, denial of pain killers, and most importantly the stench of a rotten show, wreaking of fraud.
If you wanted to stage it so you would have a rematch, why would you put on such a turgid boring show - it was less entertaining than figure skating - and as a result, there's bugger all demand for a rematch.
FMJ and Pac are no threat to win dancing with the stars.
Based on what happened and what is on the public record I believe that it is highly likely that Team FMJ was aware of Pac's injury and range of motion issues. IMO, the outcome was (at minimum) a foregone conclusion. Remember how long it took Pac to get to the post fight press conference? Then he claims to have been injured prior to the fight. Why? Because it was meant to create a call for a rematch.
It has failed due to the lack of entertainment value in their waltz, and Manny's inability to sell the injury angle.
Tanzio wrote:FMJ and Pac are no threat to win dancing with the stars.
Based on what happened and what is on the public record I believe that it is highly likely that Team FMJ was aware of Pac's injury and range of motion issues. IMO, the outcome was (at minimum) a foregone conclusion. Remember how long it took Pac to get to the post fight press conference? Then he claims to have been injured prior to the fight. Why? Because it was meant to create a call for a rematch.
It has failed due to the lack of entertainment value in their waltz, and Manny's inability to sell the injury angle.
This is the most preposterous thing I've ever read on BoxRec or any other boxing forum, it looks like it is time for a Poll Thread on your "CONSPIRACY THEORY" believing both Floyd and Manny choreographed their fight in order to get a rematch.
For years all you Manny fans were claiming Floyd ducked/was afraid of him but that MYTH has been proven to be false by Freddie Roach's admittance of the reason the fight never happened was Manny's Fault as he said it and now you come here with the lamest conspiracy ever thinking we somehow would believe you.
Do a poll and let's see if anyone believes that lame conclusion you came to.
Tanzio wrote:FMJ and Pac are no threat to win dancing with the stars.
Based on what happened and what is on the public record I believe that it is highly likely that Team FMJ was aware of Pac's injury and range of motion issues. IMO, the outcome was (at minimum) a foregone conclusion. Remember how long it took Pac to get to the post fight press conference? Then he claims to have been injured prior to the fight. Why? Because it was meant to create a call for a rematch.
It has failed due to the lack of entertainment value in their waltz, and Manny's inability to sell the injury angle.
This is the most preposterous thing I've ever read on BoxRec or any other boxing forum, it looks like it is time for a Poll Thread on your "CONSPIRACY THEORY" believing both Floyd and Manny choreographed their fight in order to get a rematch.
For years all you Manny fans were claiming Floyd ducked/was afraid of him but that MYTH has been proven to be false by Freddie Roach's admittance of the reason the fight never happened was Manny's Fault as he said it and now you come here with the lamest conspiracy ever thinking we somehow would believe you.
Do a poll and let's see if anyone believes that lame conclusion you came to.
I'm not a Manny fan any more than I am an FMJ fan, and I don't base my opinions on their popularity. If you want to do a poll, get off your secretarial spread ass and get it done.
