Ward vs Barrera

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Ward vs Barrera

Ward by KO
4
14%
Ward by decision
23
82%
Draw
0
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Barrera by decision
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No votes
Barrera by KO
1
4%
 
Total votes: 28

ikorolev
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Ward vs Barrera

Post by ikorolev »

Please vote and discuss.

Personally, I started having doubts about Barrera having a size advantage over Ward. Ward has always been a big SMW. It seems like Barrera is a small light heavy. Look at these pictures:

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or this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZ2GrBRNxY

Barrera doesn't look much taller than Golovkin and doesn't have a big frame. I don't think that Barrera will be able to outpower Ward inside, so he just has a puncher's chance which is not high if Ward we know will show up.
Undefeated49-0
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by Undefeated49-0 »

It will be a good fight, Barrera will be able to stand up to whatever AW throws and he will bring the pressure to try and wear the naturally smaller man down.

The only real chance Barrera has is to land a big enough shot to KO Ward but he isn't going to be able to outbox AW. From those pics Barrera looks slightly bigger than GGG and when AW and GGG stood next to one another it was clear AW was bigger or taller; he just looked to be the bigger man to me.
crusader
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

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From the pics I've seen Barrera looks more like 6'0" than 6'2".
ikorolev
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

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Undefeated49-0 wrote:It will be a good fight, Barrera will be able to stand up to whatever AW throws and he will bring the pressure to try and wear the naturally smaller man down.

The only real chance Barrera has is to land a big enough shot to KO Ward but he isn't going to be able to outbox AW. From those pics Barrera looks slightly bigger than GGG and when AW and GGG stood next to one another it was clear AW was bigger or taller; he just looked to be the bigger man to me.
You seem to be contradicting yourself. First you call Ward "the naturally smaller man", but then you are talking about Barrera being only slightly bigger than GGG.

Barrera fought at MW in amateurs and looked smaller (even though a bit taller) than Murat. I think Barrera is "the naturally smaller man" here.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by Larrylefthook »

ikorolev wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:It will be a good fight, Barrera will be able to stand up to whatever AW throws and he will bring the pressure to try and wear the naturally smaller man down.

The only real chance Barrera has is to land a big enough shot to KO Ward but he isn't going to be able to outbox AW. From those pics Barrera looks slightly bigger than GGG and when AW and GGG stood next to one another it was clear AW was bigger or taller; he just looked to be the bigger man to me.
You seem to be contradicting yourself. First you call Ward "the naturally smaller man", but then you are talking about Barrera being only slightly bigger than GGG.

Barrera fought at MW in amateurs and looked smaller (even though a bit taller) than Murat. I think Barrera is "the naturally smaller man" here.
Considering Ward fought at LHW in the amateurs there is no doubt Ward is the naturally bigger man. This will be an easier fight for Ward then most people think, Ward will stop him by around the 8th unless he fights safety first all night then it'll be a wide UD.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

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Nah, Ward isn't stopping anybody. The only opponent he really stopped in many years was dehydrated Dawson. Smith wasn't hurt, there was just no point to continue for him.

Barrera is not a pressure fighter. He likes to counter-punch, so the fight may become a chess game. I expect Ward to win comfortably, but he is the only one who can get stopped here.

P.S. By the way, Barrera defeated Dawson in amateurs.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by tigermoth87 »

Easy fight for Ward, he'll win every round.

He should enjoy it whilst he can, Krusher is coming. :TU:
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by N2 Shape »

Whos the guy on the far right in that group pic looks like a beast
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by keirw »

I would never assume that Ward would be outsized greatly by any Light Heavy, he was always a big Super Middle and as pointed out by others, he was a world class amateur at Light Heavy.
Also, although he clearly isn't a huge KO puncher, I think he probably hits a bit harder than people give him credit for, he doesn't have many stoppage wins at the top level but then he was fighting the likes of Froch, Kessler, Abraham and Bika who all have enough granite between them to lay a highway.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by victor-romeo »

I have mixed feelings in this fight, I want the underdog to win, but I also want to see a super fight between Ward and Kovalev later in the year.

I think because of Wards inactivity it makes this fight much harder to predict. Based on Wards past he should beat Barrera but he has been really inactive like I think it is three years now? with one scrub fight.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by ikorolev »

N2 Shape wrote:Whos the guy on the far right in that group pic looks like a beast
Is is Gassiev.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

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ikorolev wrote:
N2 Shape wrote:Whos the guy on the far right in that group pic looks like a beast
Is is Gassiev.
Gassiev is a fuckign beast
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by Oiky »

barrera has a punchers chance :box: but thats it. the mean for ward is kovalev. kovalev will beat him all about the place
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

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I think Ward will win unconvincingly and a lot of folk will change their tune on Ward/Kovalev.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by Oiky »

Riddick Blowe wrote:I think Ward will win unconvincingly and a lot of folk will change their tune on Ward/Kovalev.
i won't, i'll still be saying kovalev will beat ward. i'm not one of those fickle fans.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

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Oiky wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I think Ward will win unconvincingly and a lot of folk will change their tune on Ward/Kovalev.
i won't, i'll still be saying kovalev will beat ward. i'm not one of those fickle fans.
I mean the Ward backers will realise he is beatable and you don't want to be 'beatable' in there with Kova.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by Oiky »

Riddick Blowe wrote:
Oiky wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I think Ward will win unconvincingly and a lot of folk will change their tune on Ward/Kovalev.
i won't, i'll still be saying kovalev will beat ward. i'm not one of those fickle fans.
I mean the Ward backers will realise he is beatable and you don't want to be 'beatable' in there with Kova.
oh yeah i get you mate :TU: i read "convincingly", like i div i missed the first two letters lol.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by PsychoGamerTwo »

keirw wrote:I would never assume that Ward would be outsized greatly by any Light Heavy, he was always a big Super Middle and as pointed out by others, he was a world class amateur at Light Heavy.
Also, although he clearly isn't a huge KO puncher, I think he probably hits a bit harder than people give him credit for, he doesn't have many stoppage wins at the top level but then he was fighting the likes of Froch, Kessler, Abraham and Bika who all have enough granite between them to lay a highway.
Abraham said, Ward hurt him more than Froch. He may not have the same power, but he knows when to punch. The one's you don't see hurt the most...
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by crusader »

keirw wrote:I would never assume that Ward would be outsized greatly by any Light Heavy, he was always a big Super Middle and as pointed out by others, he was a world class amateur at Light Heavy.
Also, although he clearly isn't a huge KO puncher, I think he probably hits a bit harder than people give him credit for, he doesn't have many stoppage wins at the top level but then he was fighting the likes of Froch, Kessler, Abraham and Bika who all have enough granite between them to lay a highway.
Despite often landing flush shots Ward didn't seem to hurt Rodriguez, Smith, Miranda, Green, or Sugar Poo Buchanan either, and I wouldn't say they have granite chins.

He's obviously not a Paulie pillow-fists type, but I think the evidence suggests that he's not much of a puncher.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by keirw »

I'm not suggesting he is a 'puncher' necessarily. just that, like Mayweather, he hits hard enough to get his opponents attention.
Whether that remains to be the case at against the top lightheavies remains to be seen.
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by Freedom2013 »

"Everyone has a plan until they get clinched, clamped, held and headbutted" - Andre Ward
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by N2 Shape »

His boxrec pic doesnt do him justice
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Re: Ward vs Barrera

Post by fanman »

:lol:
Freedom2013 wrote:"Everyone has a plan until they get clinched, clamped, held and headbutted" - Andre Ward
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