will there be a tyson-wlad II?

man · Post by **man** » 03 Mar 2016, 15:36

i for one doubt it. with every day passing by
wlad loses boxing promotion capital. people
will stop wanting to see this.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 03 Mar 2016, 16:08

50/50 for me really if it happens. i wouldln't be suprised if it didn't though, wlad knows he can do nothing different and fury would beat him again and as time wanes on, as you say, people will lose interest in the fight

Lancenix · Post by **Lancenix** » 03 Mar 2016, 16:16

Oiky wrote:50/50 for me really if it happens. i wouldln't be suprised if it didn't though, wlad knows he can do nothing different and fury would beat him again and as time wanes on, as you say, people will lose interest in the fight

THIS.

Tarkus · Post by **Tarkus** » 03 Mar 2016, 17:07

Oiky wrote:50/50 for me really if it happens. i wouldln't be suprised if it didn't though, wlad knows he can do nothing different and fury would beat him again and as time wanes on, as you say, people will lose interest in the fight

Nonsense. There is no bases for suggesting Klitschko will pull out apart from someones misguided and subjective perception of what he can or can not do. Klitschko said very clearly he believes he will fight differently and win and that he have not been so motivated in ages.

Only reason this wont happen is if Fury pulls out. He is the one who said he lost motivation and his promoter is the one who is admitted been unable to deliver Stadium fight in the UK. And he is the one who already lost one of the bets.

On one side you have an ultimate professional. On the other a lazy, moody clown.

SNG · Post by **SNG** » 03 Mar 2016, 17:18

Wlad won't want it, when he gets in the gym he'll know.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 03 Mar 2016, 17:20

Tarkus wrote:
Oiky wrote:50/50 for me really if it happens. i wouldln't be suprised if it didn't though, wlad knows he can do nothing different and fury would beat him again and as time wanes on, as you say, people will lose interest in the fight
Nonsense. There is no bases for suggesting Klitschko will pull out apart from someones misguided and subjective perception of what he can or can not do. Klitschko said very clearly he believes he will fight differently and win and that he have not been so motivated in ages.

Only reason this wont happen is if Fury pulls out. He is the one who said he lost motivation and his promoter is the one who is admitted been unable to deliver Stadium fight in the UK. And he is the one who already lost one of the bets.

On one side you have an ultimate professional. On the other a lazy, moody clown.

not just someone, many are saying it, and its all a matter of opinion anyway that we as fans, have every right to think. it also means nothing untill the 2 actually do meet in the ring again.

that "lazy, moody clown" beat your "ultimate professional" who couldln't/didn't seem to want to do anything vs. that lazy moody clown and i think your ultimate professional would get beaten again in the rematch

.

Klitschko WAS a great champion who deserves much respect, and he has recieved much respect, but his reign is over now. fury finished it.

Tarkus · Post by **Tarkus** » 03 Mar 2016, 17:34

Oiky wrote:not just someone, many are saying it, and its all a matter of opinion anyway that we as fans, have every right to think. it also means nothing untill the 2 actually do meet in the ring again.

that "lazy, moody clown" beat your "ultimate professional" who couldln't/didn't seem to want to do anything vs. that lazy moody clown and i think your ultimate professional would get beaten again in the rematch .

Klitschko WAS a great champion who deserves much respect, and he has recieved much respect, but his reign is over now. fury finished it.

Opinion should be based on reality, otherwise its, as I said nonsense.

Yes lazy, moody clown can beat a great professional. I did not say Fury did not know how to box. In fact I predicted Fury win years ago. He finds it hard to motivate himself unlike Klitschko and needs Peter to stand with a whip over him to get him in shape. Fact.

All evidence we have suggests that delay is because of Fury team not Klitschko. For someone to say Klitshcko is pulling out is a pure fantasy with no bases in reality.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 03 Mar 2016, 17:50

Tarkus wrote:
Oiky wrote:not just someone, many are saying it, and its all a matter of opinion anyway that we as fans, have every right to think. it also means nothing untill the 2 actually do meet in the ring again.

that "lazy, moody clown" beat your "ultimate professional" who couldln't/didn't seem to want to do anything vs. that lazy moody clown and i think your ultimate professional would get beaten again in the rematch .

Klitschko WAS a great champion who deserves much respect, and he has recieved much respect, but his reign is over now. fury finished it.
Opinion should be based on reality, otherwise its, as I said nonsense.

Yes lazy, moody clown can beat a great professional. I did not say Fury did not know how to box. In fact I predicted Fury win years ago. He finds it hard to motivate himself unlike Klitschko and needs Peter to stand with a whip over him to get him in shape. Fact.

All evidence we have suggests that delay is because of Fury team not Klitschko. For someone to say Klitshcko is pulling out is a pure fantasy with no bases in reality.

fury does have motivational issues, but he still gets the job done. thats the only fact i really care about.

and as i say, we will just have to wait and see, and personally, i think fury will best klitschko again.

BAD INTENTIONS · Post by **BAD INTENTIONS** » 03 Mar 2016, 18:51

Please no ... the first was the worst fight in history.

man · Post by **man** » 04 Mar 2016, 03:23

Oiky wrote:fury does have motivational issues

which spells to me he will soon be gone
and forgotten as a sidenote in hw history.
a young heavy weight champion with
motivational issues is ... doomed.

Davidreed · Post by **Davidreed** » 04 Mar 2016, 03:28

Wlad really didn't do anything to recover himself from what he get after a loss to against Fury. So hope so that he will retain his confidence again & hopefully we will see a strong Wlad again.

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 04 Mar 2016, 03:44

I heard Wlad is already training, so I assume he's planning to fight again, he's probably just pushing it on short notice or something like that.

Rexob · Post by **Rexob** » 04 Mar 2016, 04:34

It will happen but this time it will be a more decisive win by Fury! with Fury totally disarming klit again and any grand plan he may have devised! Fury just too damm good!

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 04 Mar 2016, 08:45

man wrote:
Oiky wrote:fury does have motivational issues
which spells to me he will soon be gone
and forgotten as a sidenote in hw history.
a young heavy weight champion with
motivational issues is ... doomed.

nah fury will be on top for quite some time regardless. i remember the days when most people were against fury, and then they started to see the truth and now most people really are with fury.

fury will beat wlad even better in the return.

once hes in there he'll be brand new.

Rob3_142 · Post by **Rob3_142** » 04 Mar 2016, 09:00

I have to say that someone who is on top of the world, with so many big and lucrative fights ahead, to have questionable motivation does concern me.

He has said that the three big matches he'd want before he retires is Klitchko, Wilder and Joshua. So we could quite easily see him retire in the next 3 years. He's also got half an eye on the Olympics. 2020 maybe?

man · Post by **man** » 04 Mar 2016, 12:38

Oiky wrote:
man wrote:
Oiky wrote:fury does have motivational issues
which spells to me he will soon be gone
and forgotten as a sidenote in hw history.
a young heavy weight champion with
motivational issues is ... doomed.
nah fury will be on top for quite some time regardless. i remember the days when most people were against fury, and then they started to see the truth and now most people really are with fury.

fury will beat wlad even better in the return.

once hes in there he'll be brand new.

i agree he will beat wlad, possibly take him
out, but lack of motivation at this level is
something no boxer can afford. that's my
whole point. if fury shows solid work ethic,
then he can manage a lot of things. if he
gets too absorbed in the circus he will be
in trouble against one of the lions. my bet
is still on joshua to be the man of the years
to come.

Oiky · Post by **Oiky** » 05 Mar 2016, 11:47

man wrote:
Oiky wrote:
man wrote: which spells to me he will soon be gone
and forgotten as a sidenote in hw history.
a young heavy weight champion with
motivational issues is ... doomed.
nah fury will be on top for quite some time regardless. i remember the days when most people were against fury, and then they started to see the truth and now most people really are with fury.

fury will beat wlad even better in the return.

once hes in there he'll be brand new.
i agree he will beat wlad, possibly take him
out, but lack of motivation at this level is
something no boxer can afford. that's my
whole point. if fury shows solid work ethic,
then he can manage a lot of things. if he
gets too absorbed in the circus he will be
in trouble against one of the lions. my bet
is still on joshua to be the man of the years
to come.

in my opinion i see joshua as just a knockout waiting to happen

i think parker will surpass him.

greg · Post by **greg** » 05 Mar 2016, 12:01

..boxing matches of this magnitude take time to get organised...I'm not sure as to the outcome..doubt very much though that Tyson will be able to take Wlad out...

man · Post by **man** » 05 Mar 2016, 14:30

greg wrote:..boxing matches of this magnitude take time to get organised...I'm not sure as to the outcome..doubt very much though that Tyson will be able to take Wlad out...

leonard went for duran right after the
result was announced. wlad should
have done the very same. i actually
expected it and find this thing now
very disappointing.

man · Post by **man** » 05 Mar 2016, 14:32

Oiky wrote:in my opinion i see joshua as just a knockout waiting to happen
i think parker will surpass him.

could very well be. i am clearly not an expect.
always thought fury was overrated and was
surprised he could so easily keep wlad off.

greg · Post by **greg** » 05 Mar 2016, 15:44

man wrote:
greg wrote:..boxing matches of this magnitude take time to get organised...I'm not sure as to the outcome..doubt very much though that Tyson will be able to take Wlad out...
leonard went for duran right after the
result was announced. wlad should
have done the very same. i actually
expected it and find this thing now
very disappointing.

..both were much younger than Wlad and it still took 5 months to organise it...

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 05 Mar 2016, 15:47

If this isn't signed by May 1st. Fury should have the right to fight someone else without being stripped.

The longer this goes the worse chance Wlad has

Furey · Post by **Furey** » 05 Mar 2016, 17:06

The rematch will happen, Fury camp say it's 100% on.

rd350lc · Post by **rd350lc** » 05 Mar 2016, 19:20

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Please no ... the first was the worst fight in history.

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 05 Mar 2016, 20:01

It would probably be better for Wlad to bow out gracefully. He has nothing to prove.