Lancenix wrote:
Nate had said in the prefight build up that he wants to fight for the title and if Robbie Lawlor wanted to fight him he would stay at 170.
I love it when a new poster joins the forum and just adds so much knowledge to it in one thread. Thanks Lancenix, you really are great
I picked the fight Nate by sub. Nailed it. How did your pick go buddy??
Tomasino wrote:McGregor calling Nate a "broke little punk" and saying he could buy and sell him 100 times just made me sick. I hate the jumped up little prick. Not only do I want Nate and anyone else he ever fights to beat the piss out him, I'd like some of his countrymen to tiger kidnapp him and send him back to his beloved dole queue
You just try to denigrate the champ even before the fight. Look at what you wrote. Just childish.
Tomasino wrote:McGregor calling Nate a "broke little punk" and saying he could buy and sell him 100 times just made me sick. I hate the jumped up little prick. Not only do I want Nate and anyone else he ever fights to beat the piss out him, I'd like some of his countrymen to tiger kidnapp him and send him back to his beloved dole queue
You just try to denigrate the champ even before the fight. Look at what you wrote. Just childish.
Hey Lancenix, welcome to the forum. I see you've made lots of new friends.
Lancenix wrote:"Everyone must fight at their natural walking around weight"-- Impracticaljoker new UFC president.
If that were the case, Conor should fight at WW. I am not saying that.
You said the 145 champ is not even a 145 fighter. Meaning no one can cut weight and rehydrate. I love how Joe Rogan went on about this too and then was blasted all over the MMA world last night.
Tomasino wrote:McGregor calling Nate a "broke little punk" and saying he could buy and sell him 100 times just made me sick. I hate the jumped up little prick. Not only do I want Nate and anyone else he ever fights to beat the piss out him, I'd like some of his countrymen to tiger kidnapp him and send him back to his beloved dole queue
You just try to denigrate the champ even before the fight. Look at what you wrote. Just childish.
Hey Lancenix, welcome to the forum. I see you've made lots of new friends.
Yeah cause I need friends on a boxing forum. The fact that you said that says that is what you come here looking for. Life going that bad for ya bro??
Impractical Poster wrote:Lanc, you should stop while you are ahead or your lack of MMA knowledge will continue to be exposed.
I picked the fight dead on by the way. All you had to say is that you hope Mac got kidnapped. Then to try to make your point that the weight jump made no difference you wrote a bunch of pure rubbish including sayin that the 145 pound champ is not even a 145 pound fighter. WoW!!! So bad. So bad. You will say anything to try to be right.
Impractical Poster wrote:Lanc, you should stop while you are ahead or your lack of MMA knowledge will continue to be exposed.
I picked the fight dead on by the way. All you had to say is that you hope Mac got kidnapped. Then to try to make your point that the weight jump made no difference you wrote a bunch of pure rubbish including sayin that the 145 pound champ is not even a 145 pound fighter. WoW!!! So bad. So bad. You will say anything to try to be right.
Impractical Poster wrote:Lanc, you should stop while you are ahead or your lack of MMA knowledge will continue to be exposed.
So a 25 pound 2 weight class weight jump made no difference last night against a guy who has fought at WW and is listed at WW by ufc.com and in the lead up to the fight Diaz said he would stay at 170 to fight for the title. Even without cutting <Mac only got up to 168 and weight made no difference. LOL
So if Luke Rockhold jumped two weight classes and fought Jon Jones and lost you would call him a fraud?? And because Rockhold walks around at well over 200 pounds (which he does) then he is not the 185 pound champ. He should be fighting at 205. That is how dumb you are. And you know it. + Rockhold just won the title at 185 but that makes no difference. LOL
Impractical Poster wrote:Lanc, you should stop while you are ahead or your lack of MMA knowledge will continue to be exposed.
So a 25 pound 2 weight class weight jump made no difference last night against a guy who has fought at WW and is listed at WW by ufc.com and in the lead up to the fight Diaz said he would stay at 170 to fight for the title. Even without cutting <Mac only got up to 168 and weight made no difference. LOL
I'm not saying weight didn't make a difference. I actually think it does. I believe that McGregor can't win against elite fighters his own size. It was Conor who stated that weight is not an issue before the bout. But, now that he lost, he is claiming that weight was the issue.
But, the funny thing is, that Nate has been a career LW. A division that McGregor has fought in several times already.
People are trying to find excuses for McGregor's loss, so the weight thing is what they have come up with. But it is a weak argument really. Sure, it was weight, but it was against a guy who has been a career 155 pounder. And not even the best 155er. Saying that he lost to a 170 lber sounds a lot better. But, it only fools the fools..... Like you.
Lancenix wrote:
You just try to denigrate the champ even before the fight. Look at what you wrote. Just childish.
Hey Lancenix, welcome to the forum. I see you've made lots of new friends.
Yeah cause I need friends on a boxing forum. The fact that you said that says that is what you come here looking for. Life going that bad for ya bro??
Not really, it's very nice here at Baobab Suites, Adeje. Check my Instagram, mrdavidmorrison and you'll see how life is for me.
I've been on the forum a while, learned a lot and contributed a little. There's some really good guys here and there also are people I wouldnt like to meet.
By the way you post, I'd say you are struggling not only with life but also with your sexuality. You are so angry about absolutely nothing and everyone can see that. You've repeated yourself a large number of times and have literally begged people to re read your posts. I'd say your pretty desperate. Perhaps you should have your mummy feed you medicine, before you top yourself
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Lancenix wrote:So if Luke Rockhold jumped two weight classes and fought Jon Jones and lost you would call him a fraud?? And because Rockhold walks around at well over 200 pounds (which he does) then he is not the 185 pound champ. He should be fighting at 205. That is how dumb you are. And you know it. + Rockhold just won the title at 185 but that makes no difference. LOL
Horrible comparison...
A more accurate comparison would be something like Lyoto Machida fighting Jon Jones at Heavyweight and losing. And then blaming it on moving up 2 weight classes. Much more accurate.
BTW, I know they have fought each other before at 205.
Which brings up another question.... Do you think the fight would have went differently had the bout took place at 155 and Nate had a full camp?
Lancenix wrote:So if Luke Rockhold jumped two weight classes and fought Jon Jones and lost you would call him a fraud?? And because Rockhold walks around at well over 200 pounds (which he does) then he is not the 185 pound champ. He should be fighting at 205. That is how dumb you are. And you know it. + Rockhold just won the title at 185 but that makes no difference. LOL
Horrible comparison...
A more accurate comparison would be something like Lyoto Machida fighting Jon Jones at Heavyweight and losing. And then blaming it on moving up 2 weight classes. Much more accurate.
BTW, I know they have fought each other before at 205.
Which brings up another question.... Do you think the fight would have went differently had the bout took place at 155 and Nate had a full camp?
Good post and perfect example. This guy Lancenix honestly must be on the way to the rope the way he's going on
Impractical Poster wrote:Lanc, you should stop while you are ahead or your lack of MMA knowledge will continue to be exposed.
So a 25 pound 2 weight class weight jump made no difference last night against a guy who has fought at WW and is listed at WW by ufc.com and in the lead up to the fight Diaz said he would stay at 170 to fight for the title. Even without cutting <Mac only got up to 168 and weight made no difference. LOL
I'm not saying weight didn't make a difference. I actually think it does. I believe that McGregor can't win against elite fighters his own size. It was Conor who stated that weight is not an issue before the bout. But, now that he lost, he is claiming that weight was the issue.
But, the funny thing is, that Nate has been a career LW. A division that McGregor has fought in several times already.
People are trying to find excuses for McGregor's loss, so the weight thing is what they have come up with. But it is a weak argument really. Sure, it was weight, but it was against a guy who has been a career 155 pounder. And not even the best 155er. Saying that he lost to a 170 lber sounds a lot better. But, it only fools the fools..... Like you.
He said that just so he could sell the fight. He is dumb. He and his team and stupid Dana did not take into account what a loss could or would mean to his career. Pettis was offered at 155 supposedly and he should have taken that fight. CMac if I were advising him would have never taken that fight. You had an entire training camp to fight at 155 and then you fight 15 pounds higher?? And people act like no big deal? No it was a big deal. And it is a big deal.
Lancenix wrote:
So a 25 pound 2 weight class weight jump made no difference last night against a guy who has fought at WW and is listed at WW by ufc.com and in the lead up to the fight Diaz said he would stay at 170 to fight for the title. Even without cutting <Mac only got up to 168 and weight made no difference. LOL
I'm not saying weight didn't make a difference. I actually think it does. I believe that McGregor can't win against elite fighters his own size. It was Conor who stated that weight is not an issue before the bout. But, now that he lost, he is claiming that weight was the issue.
But, the funny thing is, that Nate has been a career LW. A division that McGregor has fought in several times already.
People are trying to find excuses for McGregor's loss, so the weight thing is what they have come up with. But it is a weak argument really. Sure, it was weight, but it was against a guy who has been a career 155 pounder. And not even the best 155er. Saying that he lost to a 170 lber sounds a lot better. But, it only fools the fools..... Like you.
He said that just so he could sell the fight. He is dumb. He and his team and stupid Dana did not take into account what a loss could or would mean to his career. Pettis was offered at 155 supposedly and he should have taken that fight. CMac if I were advising him would have never taken that fight. You had an entire training camp to fight at 155 and then you fight 15 pounds higher?? And people act like no big deal? No it was a big deal. And it is a big deal.
If you were advising him my fuckin word you are a real one aren't you
Lancenix wrote:So if Luke Rockhold jumped two weight classes and fought Jon Jones and lost you would call him a fraud?? And because Rockhold walks around at well over 200 pounds (which he does) then he is not the 185 pound champ. He should be fighting at 205. That is how dumb you are. And you know it. + Rockhold just won the title at 185 but that makes no difference. LOL
Horrible comparison...
A more accurate comparison would be something like Lyoto Machida fighting Jon Jones at Heavyweight and losing. And then blaming it on moving up 2 weight classes. Much more accurate.
BTW, I know they have fought each other before at 205.
Which brings up another question.... Do you think the fight would have went differently had the bout took place at 155 and Nate had a full camp?
No it is a perfect comparison and your comparison sucks. It is so dumb I am not responding to it. Would the fight have been different at 155. It certainly would have been to Cmac's advantage. Let us get something straight before the submission CMac cut Diaz bad and it looked good for him. That is a fact. It would have made a difference because when you cut weight it takes something out of you and the rehydration process is no picnic either. I'd like to see a rematch at 155 if CMac jumps there. You could not rule CMac out in that fight. Diaz also probably came in closer to 175 or more yesterday. It was a huge advantage. And you know it.
Lancenix wrote:
No it is a perfect comparison and your comparison sucks. It is so dumb I am not responding to it. Would the fight have been different at 155. It certainly would have been to Cmac's advantage. Let us get something straight before the submission CMac cut Diaz bad and it looked good for him. That is a fact. It would have made a difference because when you cut weight it takes something out of you and the rehydration process is no picnic either. I'd like to see a rematch at 155 if CMac jumps there. You could not rule CMac out in that fight. Diaz also probably came in closer to 175 or more yesterday. It was a huge advantage. And you know it.
Do you understand why I made that comparison?
And, Nate coming in at at 155 with a full camp would have made a difference only in that Nate would have been in better shape and more prepared. They both would have had to drain and rehydrate. But, Nate would have been sharper. The rehydration weight would have been similar to what they weighed in at come fight time anyhow. If they rematch at 155, I'd be extremely comfortable picking Nate to win again. Conor is very flashy and fast. But, Nate has the better boxing fundamentals. This became apparent once Nate was able to get his timing. It just came later than usual because he was not properly prepared.
Nate spars with top boxers regularly. Same with Nick.
Let's get the facts,
McGregor walks around at an in shape 170lbs in training before a featherweight fight (confirmed by him on UFC embedded)
He cuts from around 165lbs to make FW(confirmed by a few sources)
He's not only taller than most FWs but also just as thick and sometimes thicker
Diaz is a career LW who's last fights were all at LW(confirmed by his record)
Diaz took the fight on 11 days notice
He went on record saying he agreed to fight 155 but the UFC told him to do it at 170 so he didn't have to worry about making weight
Diaz didn't spar at all leading up to the fight, which is why it took him a round or so to get some timing and distance(as confirmed by him in a post fight interview)
Neither Mac or Diaz cut weight to make 170 this is why neither looked dehydrated at the weigh in
Nate who has never been noted for his wrestling got the fight to the ground way too easily yes it was reversed but still worrying how easy that he landed that single leg
Connor landed some good shots, Nate handled it just fine
Nate landed some good shots, Connor couldn't handle it and became the very thing he accused everyone else of being... A panic wrestler
On the ground Connor seemingly gave up was it coz he was dazed or did he just genuinely give up? It created a huge contrast between Holm who fought the choke until she went out and him
If Diaz weighed slightly more than he normally does for a 155 fight that weight was just fat something that doesn't help him at all it only hinders him.
Good win for Diaz, Short notice fight huge win marketing wise and it was clear why the UFC decided on an out of shape Diaz at 170 rather than Cerrone who had just fought and was in shape and ready to make 155.
It is my opinion that the UFC is using Mac to make their good champions into genuine PPV stars. Aldo fucked it up by rushing in hands down and chin out, RDA was supposed to maul him and look like a god. Connor thinks the UFC is looking after him because he could be the best ever but they will only pretend that for so long, they're not trustworthy people at all and they'll throw him to the gutter as soon as he's done what they need him for. There's a reason why Lorenzo chucked a few hundred thousand on Aldo to win, if you genuinely believe that Mac is the next coming and you don't have another use for that then you don't bet on the other guy to win.
