The roles of boxing inspectors and supervisors

[Cholo_cws]

Can anyone tell me what the specific duties of these two roles are? What are the differences between the them? Obviously they are there to oversee that rules are followed etc but who does what? And how demanding are they? I ask this after reading that EBU supervisor Enza Jacoponi is 82 years old.

[Looking On]

Inspectors are title headlined shows, Supervisors on regular small hall shows.

Oversee the weigh in, ensure correct gloves are being given to boxers etc

Certainly not a physical role, hence being able to do it at 82.

If anything i think its quite a cushy role.

[The Insider]

Inspectors are title headlined shows, Supervisors on regular small hall shows.

Oversee the weigh in, ensure correct gloves are being given to boxers etc

Certainly not a physical role, hence being able to do it at 82.

If anything i think its quite a cushy role.

Most of this is untrue unfortunately.

Inspectors are appointed by the relevant area council to all BBBoC sanctioned shows. They are the "eyes and ears" of the Board and oversee weigh ins, examination of licence laminates, collection of fees, collecting and collating documentation and relevant information pertaining to a promotion among many other duties. Its a genuinely hard and thankless job believe it or not.

Supervisors, Area Representatives or Stewards in Charge are ultimately responsible for the running of the show and oversee the while shebang.

[Looking On]

Inspectors are title headlined shows, Supervisors on regular small hall shows.

Oversee the weigh in, ensure correct gloves are being given to boxers etc

Certainly not a physical role, hence being able to do it at 82.

If anything i think its quite a cushy role.

Most of this is untrue unfortunately.

Inspectors are appointed by the relevant area council to all BBBoC sanctioned shows. They are the "eyes and ears" of the Board and oversee weigh ins, examination of licence laminates, collection of fees, collecting and collating documentation and relevant information pertaining to a promotion among many other duties. Its a genuinely hard and thankless job believe it or not.

Supervisors, Area Representatives or Stewards in Charge are ultimately responsible for the running of the show and oversee the while shebang.

So when you say most of what i wrote is untrue, you meant you disagreed with the last line of it.

Shows ive had invovlement with have only had a supervisor not an inspector, and no title bouts. Everything you listed was undertaken by the supervisor,
who seemed to have to spend more time waiting around than doing anything prior to the show.
A trainer is a hard and thankless task, more so than a supervisor imo, so id still say it appears a cushy job... Theyll be walking away from a show with more pay/expenses than trainers do for far less work, again IMO

[The Insider]

Inspectors are title headlined shows, Supervisors on regular small hall shows.

Oversee the weigh in, ensure correct gloves are being given to boxers etc

Certainly not a physical role, hence being able to do it at 82.

If anything i think its quite a cushy role.

Most of this is untrue unfortunately.

Inspectors are appointed by the relevant area council to all BBBoC sanctioned shows. They are the "eyes and ears" of the Board and oversee weigh ins, examination of licence laminates, collection of fees, collecting and collating documentation and relevant information pertaining to a promotion among many other duties. Its a genuinely hard and thankless job believe it or not.

Supervisors, Area Representatives or Stewards in Charge are ultimately responsible for the running of the show and oversee the while shebang.

So when you say most of what i wrote is untrue, you meant you disagreed with the last line of it.

Shows ive had invovlement with have only had a supervisor not an inspector, and no title bouts. Everything you listed was undertaken by the supervisor,
who seemed to have to spend more time waiting around than doing anything prior to the show.
A trainer is a hard and thankless task, more so than a supervisor imo, so id still say it appears a cushy job... Theyll be walking away from a show with more pay/expenses than trainers do for far less work, again IMO

Not sure what trainers have to do with anything. Inspectors do not get paid and are only entitled to bare expenses. They do not hand gloves out (that's the Whips job) and they are appointed to ALL BBBoC shows in the UK. I disagree with pretty much everything you said excluding the "Weigh in " comment. Have a look in the rules and regs book and it will give you a better idea of what inspectors and supervisors/reps and stewards jobs.

[taffytoon]

Insider is correct; the other guy is on a different planet!!

[The Law]

Most of this is untrue unfortunately.

Inspectors are appointed by the relevant area council to all BBBoC sanctioned shows. They are the "eyes and ears" of the Board and oversee weigh ins, examination of licence laminates, collection of fees, collecting and collating documentation and relevant information pertaining to a promotion among many other duties. Its a genuinely hard and thankless job believe it or not.

Supervisors, Area Representatives or Stewards in Charge are ultimately responsible for the running of the show and oversee the while shebang.

So when you say most of what i wrote is untrue, you meant you disagreed with the last line of it.

Shows ive had invovlement with have only had a supervisor not an inspector, and no title bouts. Everything you listed was undertaken by the supervisor,
who seemed to have to spend more time waiting around than doing anything prior to the show.
A trainer is a hard and thankless task, more so than a supervisor imo, so id still say it appears a cushy job... Theyll be walking away from a show with more pay/expenses than trainers do for far less work, again IMO

Not sure what trainers have to do with anything. Inspectors do not get paid and are only entitled to bare expenses. They do not hand gloves out (that's the Whips job) and they are appointed to ALL BBBoC shows in the UK. I disagree with pretty much everything you said excluding the "Weigh in " comment. Have a look in the rules and regs book and it will give you a better idea of what inspectors and supervisors/reps and stewards jobs.

Insider is spot on. I had first hand experience as an inspector for a few years. Inspectors work on all shows, including all small hall shows. Also inspectors do not get paid, it's a voluntary role where you can only claim minimal expenses (which you have to prove with receipts).

[Looking On]

Safe to say different organisations do things differently then... I never once mentioned BBBofC.
although I admit i potentially could be getting supervisor and inspector mixed the opposite way, simply because im looking in from the outside (but closer than a spectator would obviously)
Or are you saying all bbbofc shows have both a supervisor AND an inspector ?

[Cholo_cws]

Thanks for the responses. So is it fair to say that a supervisor is more likely to be present on the bigger shows?

[The Law]

Thanks for the responses. So is it fair to say that a supervisor is more likely to be present on the bigger shows?

From my experience supervisors and inspectors both tend to be at most BBBofC shows (small hall and big shows). I've only done a couple of shows without a supervisor during my few years as an inspector.

[jonny]

Thanks for the responses. So is it fair to say that a supervisor is more likely to be present on the bigger shows?

From my experience supervisors and inspectors both tend to be at most BBBofC shows (small hall and big shows). I've only done a couple of shows without a supervisor during my few years as an inspector.

Think some are getting mixed up with steward in charge or area representative. Supervisors are mainly for championship fights. Inspectors are at all bbbofc shows and do a great job free of charge.

[The Law]

Thanks for the responses. So is it fair to say that a supervisor is more likely to be present on the bigger shows?

From my experience supervisors and inspectors both tend to be at most BBBofC shows (small hall and big shows). I've only done a couple of shows without a supervisor during my few years as an inspector.

Think some are getting mixed up with steward in charge or area representative. Supervisors are mainly for championship fights. Inspectors are at all bbbofc shows and do a great job free of charge.

In fact the inspector can occasionally be the 'supervisor' of a show if no area reps are present. However in my area we had area reps present at the vast majority of shows.

[olij999]

The OP refers to the EBU supervisor. The EBU is a title sanctioning body without responsibility for the boxers or the fights themselves - so on a UK BBBofC show (for example) where the EBU sanctions a title fight, it is still the BBBofC inspectors and area reps who do the work mentioned above, and will be the same for shows in France, Germany and so on. The EBU supervisor will not have too much to do at the show (unless he/she is also a BBBofC area rep working the show). On BBBofC shows, inspectors and area reps are always appointed regardless of the size of the show, from small hall to stadium, and regardless of whether there are titles at stake or not. And I don't understand the comment about inspectors and area reps getting paid more than trainers - trainers get 10% off the top of the fighter's gross purse, whereas inspectors and area reps simply get expenses incurred. For example, for a show I was area rep at recently, my only expenses were mileage from my front door to the venue and back, so that is all I get paid. How am I getting more than a trainer?

PS - if anyone genuinely thinks inspector or area rep is a cushy role, they should volunteer - in my experience most Areas need more inspectors, reps and other people with commitment to give up time free of charge, so I mean that in all sincerity. Email addresses for local Area Councils are at http://www.bbbofc.com/content/area-councils, so send your details to your local Area Council if you are interested.

[damianhucker1]

I know where looking on is coming from as he was i think referring to my last show under MBC and have messaged him on facebook to clarify.

Hes in part right though as mbc inspectors aren't voluntary, they charge a flat rate fee plus expenses on top.

[olij999]

I know where looking on is coming from as he was i think referring to my last show under MBC and have messaged him on facebook to clarify.

Hes in part right though as mbc inspectors aren't voluntary, they charge a flat rate fee plus expenses on top.

Thanks Damian. What fee does an inspector get under MBC, before expenses, and do area reps or the equivalent get a fee? Have to admit I am slightly jealous if they do!

[dalcumly]

Just a gentle reminder and by way of clarification, at all BBBof C shows the area rep or ,I prefer, Steward in charge ,is in total control and has ultimate responsibility. Any disputes which cannot be resolved amicably will be decided by him.eg colour of shorts, gloves, etc.and this includes shows which have world or european bodies present.
The position, I would suggest, should not be taken lightly. If in the tragic event, a fatality should occur in the ring,the first witness into the box at court,at a fatal accident enquiry will likely be the steward in charge. That person would probably have to account for every decision taken during and before the show. I think they are insured against individual liability.
At least I hope so !!

[olij999]

Just a gentle reminder and by way of clarification, at all BBBof C shows the area rep or ,I prefer, Steward in charge ,is in total control and has ultimate responsibility. Any disputes which cannot be resolved amicably will be decided by him.eg colour of shorts, gloves, etc.and this includes shows which have world or european bodies present.
The position, I would suggest, should not be taken lightly. If in the tragic event, a fatality should occur in the ring,the first witness into the box at court,at a fatal accident enquiry will likely be the steward in charge. That person would probably have to account for every decision taken during and before the show. I think they are insured against individual liability.
At least I hope so !!

I've never seen anyone take it lightly. That's why we have to check exit routes and have the security aware of it all in case a stretcher goes in, check that the ambulance is not blocked in (as people sometimes park in front of it), and a zillion other things relating to safety. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post, but who do you think is taking it lightly and why is there a need for a "gentle reminder"?

[jonp]

I know where looking on is coming from as he was i think referring to my last show under MBC and have messaged him on facebook to clarify.

Hes in part right though as mbc inspectors aren't voluntary, they charge a flat rate fee plus expenses on top.

The inspectors charge ??seriously or is that a wind up?

[dalcumly]

To olij999.
I don't know anyone who is taking the role lightly, and as I said I was simply providing a gentle reminder.
Of course I don't know all area Stewards or how they carry out their duties. If you are satisfied that all area Stewards are fully aware of their responsibilities then all I can say is that I've wasted everybody's time with the post.

[olij999]

To olij999.
I don't know anyone who is taking the role lightly, and as I said I was simply providing a gentle reminder.
Of course I don't know all area Stewards or how they carry out their duties. If you are satisfied that all area Stewards are fully aware of their responsibilities then all I can say is that I've wasted everybody's time with the post.

As I've said. In the Area I'm in, everyone takes it very seriously. I have no responsibilities outside my Area, so I have no need to be satisfied with what other Areas are doing. That's up to them, not me. If your intention was to inform, rather than remind, I get where you are coming from - it is the notion of people needing to be reminded that sits oddly with me.