Then he shouldn't keep talking about Saunders and saying he wants the fight.Horse wrote:That he's inexperienced and in no rush for a world title shot?expe wrote:Eubank has been offered the fight several times and has continually turned it down. He's had the opportunity to fight Saunders and Jacobs and has knocked both back to go and fight Nick Blackwell for the British title. I think that says everything about him.
How awful!
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It's not looking good for the future quality of Saunders' WBO reign.ikorolev wrote:Seriously ? Offering a fight to somebody who already has a fight scheduled in 3 weeks ?
Here is a quote from BJS when Eubank was available:
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... redentials
Saunders said: "Eubank is fighting people I beat two years ago. Let him go down the WBA route. Let him go and fight Daniel Jacobs. Don't get mandatory for a world title, thinking you're world level and then go back to fight for the British.
...
"I'd rather give Nick Blackwell a shot. Eubank Jr said he was going for the WBA route so let him go fight Gennady Golovkin. So if he beats him, then we'll have a big unification fight - that's good, isn't it?
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I don't really see why it matters that he's fighting in 3 weeks. He was offered it last year, last month, last week and every time he didn't want the fight.ikorolev wrote:Seriously ? Offering a fight to somebody who already has a fight scheduled in 3 weeks ?expe wrote:Eubank was offered the fight again last Wednesday, as he did his interview with IFL his son George was going to a meeting with Eubank's lawyers to give them the contract to sign.
Here is a quote from BJS when Eubank was available:
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... redentials
Saunders said: "Eubank is fighting people I beat two years ago. Let him go down the WBA route. Let him go and fight Daniel Jacobs. Don't get mandatory for a world title, thinking you're world level and then go back to fight for the British.
...
"I'd rather give Nick Blackwell a shot. Eubank Jr said he was going for the WBA route so let him go fight Gennady Golovkin. So if he beats him, then we'll have a big unification fight - that's good, isn't it?
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So, BJS was saying "I'd rather give Nick Blackwell a shot" while offering one to Eubank ? Unless you provide a reliable source, I will think that you are misinformed.expe wrote:I don't really see why it matters that he's fighting in 3 weeks. He was offered it last year, last month, last week and every time he didn't want the fight.ikorolev wrote:Seriously ? Offering a fight to somebody who already has a fight scheduled in 3 weeks ?expe wrote:Eubank was offered the fight again last Wednesday, as he did his interview with IFL his son George was going to a meeting with Eubank's lawyers to give them the contract to sign.
Here is a quote from BJS when Eubank was available:
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... redentials
Saunders said: "Eubank is fighting people I beat two years ago. Let him go down the WBA route. Let him go and fight Daniel Jacobs. Don't get mandatory for a world title, thinking you're world level and then go back to fight for the British.
...
"I'd rather give Nick Blackwell a shot. Eubank Jr said he was going for the WBA route so let him go fight Gennady Golovkin. So if he beats him, then we'll have a big unification fight - that's good, isn't it?
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sucracristo
- Light Heavyweight
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Re: Coward BJS fights Bursak
look how far down they had to sink to find this opponent. are there even 15 more out therediddy wrote:Bursak stinks.
Does BJS not like money or something? Who is advising these morons? Isn't this his profession? You are a prize fighter. You fight for a prize. He will have to fight at least 15 times to make what he can make in one night.
he is safe to beat? i wouldn't be confident he could get by eubank again, or jacobs, quillin,
lemieux, cotto, canelo, def not GGG. as boring as the lee fight was, i'm not sure he would
beat lee again, or n'dam, or sam solimon, although i might slightly favor him.
you literally have to get outside of the top 15-20 before you find guys he can
safely beat. stuff also happens in the gym and on the streets:
kell brook was stabbed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Murdered_boxers
losing his title in the ring isn't the only way to lose it. that belt is his lottery ticket.
andy lee would have fought GGG and losing to saunders cost him millions he will
never get back and he will miss it later in life. saunders will be lucky to see $100k
again if he loses that title.
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Saunders says lots of things, just like Fury, doesn't mean that it's true. His promoter has said many times that he's offered the fight and repeated that at the press conference today.ikorolev wrote:So, BJS was saying "I'd rather give Nick Blackwell a shot" while offering one to Eubank ? Unless you provide a reliable source, I will think that you are misinformed.expe wrote:I don't really see why it matters that he's fighting in 3 weeks. He was offered it last year, last month, last week and every time he didn't want the fight.ikorolev wrote:
Seriously ? Offering a fight to somebody who already has a fight scheduled in 3 weeks ?
Here is a quote from BJS when Eubank was available:
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... redentials
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Right, and promoters are only telling the truth, so help them God. Amen.expe wrote:Saunders says lots of things, just like Fury, doesn't mean that it's true. His promoter has said many times that he's offered the fight and repeated that at the press conference today.ikorolev wrote:So, BJS was saying "I'd rather give Nick Blackwell a shot" while offering one to Eubank ? Unless you provide a reliable source, I will think that you are misinformed.expe wrote: I don't really see why it matters that he's fighting in 3 weeks. He was offered it last year, last month, last week and every time he didn't want the fight.
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Coward....
I'm no longer a fan of boring joe
I'm no longer a fan of boring joe
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ttornado
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Re: Coward BJS fights Bursak
BJS vs GGG in the summer, maybe...
http://www.BS.com/saunders-i-w ... er--102135
http://www.BS.com/saunders-i-w ... er--102135
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Although its not good for the fans, every champion is entitled to a soft first defence. BJS is still not known very well in the boxing industry so the longer he keeps the belt the more it gets people talking and interest grows for a GGG unification which would happen if GGG travels to the UK. Just think BJS knows Golovkin is better than him so wants all the advantages over GGG he can get. However not having the right platform in Sky the fight would struggle to sell out a stadium in the summer IMO.
Only fight that does sell for BJS is Eubank jr rematch which team Eubank keep ducking for some reason.
Only fight that does sell for BJS is Eubank jr rematch which team Eubank keep ducking for some reason.
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According to who?Reece_D wrote:Although its not good for the fans, every champion is entitled to a soft first defence.
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sucracristo
- Light Heavyweight
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the canelo fight is marked for september and GGG fights wade late next month.ttornado wrote:BJS vs GGG in the summer, maybe...
http://www.BS.com/saunders-i-w ... er--102135
that is a VERY tight schedule that only GGG would even consider, and ONLY
because he wants the belts. maybe somewhere around 4th of july there could
be a very small chance of it getting squeezed in but if it doesn't, i could see
the threads on here about GGG being a chicken ducker and this and that for
not being able to schedule it. if it was in london, it would be right in the middle
of wimbledon with lots of countries ramping up their olympic teams so it
may just not be possible.
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I think he all know that Alvarez isn't fighting Golovkin at this point, he's in a position where he can fight who he wants under the terms he wants, Golovkin isn't going to agree to those terms.sucracristo wrote:the canelo fight is marked for september and GGG fights wade late next month.ttornado wrote:BJS vs GGG in the summer, maybe...
http://www.BS.com/saunders-i-w ... er--102135
that is a VERY tight schedule that only GGG would even consider, and ONLY
because he wants the belts. maybe somewhere around 4th of july there could
be a very small chance of it getting squeezed in but if it doesn't, i could see
the threads on here about GGG being a chicken ducker and this and that for
not being able to schedule it. if it was in london, it would be right in the middle
of wimbledon with lots of countries ramping up their olympic teams so it
may just not be possible.
The only reason they can't do it in July/August is if they can't sort out a venue for it, Wimbledon is a non issue, hardly anyone that goes there will have any interest in boxing, Olympics won't be a problem either, not going to be many spending money to watch them.
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Not a huge fan of Billy Joe fighting Bursak, but I do personally believe that every World champ is entitled to cherry pick their first title defence.....within reason of course. As long as he doesn't follow it up with another poor opponent, then I am not that bothered by it.
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Larrylefthook
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Its common knowledge Eubank turned down a fight against BJS multiple times, even before BJS won the world title but Eubank turned down the rematch because he didn't want to lose his interim title! Now he's turned down another title opportunity against Jacobs do you want to dispute that too?ikorolev wrote:Right, and promoters are only telling the truth, so help them God. Amen.expe wrote:Saunders says lots of things, just like Fury, doesn't mean that it's true. His promoter has said many times that he's offered the fight and repeated that at the press conference today.ikorolev wrote:
So, BJS was saying "I'd rather give Nick Blackwell a shot" while offering one to Eubank ? Unless you provide a reliable source, I will think that you are misinformed.
If Frank was lying Eubank would call him out on it and demand the fight with BJS but he hasn't said anything because the fact is he's rejected multiple offers. He says he can beat GGG but has turned down fights with Jacobs and BJS.
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Its the way of the Sport. There is not many current fighters/champions who go straight into big fights once winning the belt. 90% of fighters do the same, everyone knows this.Ricky_ wrote:According to who?Reece_D wrote:Although its not good for the fans, every champion is entitled to a soft first defence.
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Reece_D wrote:Its the way of the Sport. There is not many current fighters/champions who go straight into big fights once winning the belt. 90% of fighters do the same, everyone knows this.Ricky_ wrote:According to who?Reece_D wrote:Although its not good for the fans, every champion is entitled to a soft first defence.
I didn't know it. Call me old fashioned but I like my world championship fights to be between top level fighters. Contenders can take as many soft opponents as they like while they are up & coming, climbing the rankings.
There's taking a soft opponent and then there's taking the piss.
Fans shouldn't adopt your attitude; that this kind of matchmaking for world title fights is even close to acceptable, vote with your wallets and boycott this garbage.
I hope the event makes a loss.
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Common knowledge ? Among who ? British Gypsies ? You are just listening to one side and ignoring the other. To me, it sounds like BJS wanted to dictate terms, and it didn't work.Larrylefthook wrote:Its common knowledge Eubank turned down a fight against BJS multiple times, even before BJS won the world title but Eubank turned down the rematch because he didn't want to lose his interim title! Now he's turned down another title opportunity against Jacobs do you want to dispute that too?ikorolev wrote:Right, and promoters are only telling the truth, so help them God. Amen.expe wrote: Saunders says lots of things, just like Fury, doesn't mean that it's true. His promoter has said many times that he's offered the fight and repeated that at the press conference today.
If Frank was lying Eubank would call him out on it and demand the fight with BJS but he hasn't said anything because the fact is he's rejected multiple offers. He says he can beat GGG but has turned down fights with Jacobs and BJS.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12 ... gotiations
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... to-rematch
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Among anyone with sense that's followed it and understands the situation. Eubank has been offered the fight at least 3 times and has rejected every offer, he can say he wants it all he likes, actions speak louder than words. Saunders is the champion, he has every right to dictate the terms, didn't even really do that judging by what's been said, it was Eubank making the ridiculous demands.ikorolev wrote:Common knowledge ? Among who ? British Gypsies ? You are just listening to one side and ignoring the other. To me, it sounds like BJS wanted to dictate terms, and it didn't work.Larrylefthook wrote:Its common knowledge Eubank turned down a fight against BJS multiple times, even before BJS won the world title but Eubank turned down the rematch because he didn't want to lose his interim title! Now he's turned down another title opportunity against Jacobs do you want to dispute that too?ikorolev wrote:
Right, and promoters are only telling the truth, so help them God. Amen.
If Frank was lying Eubank would call him out on it and demand the fight with BJS but he hasn't said anything because the fact is he's rejected multiple offers. He says he can beat GGG but has turned down fights with Jacobs and BJS.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12 ... gotiations
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... to-rematch
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It is not a champion who is supposed to make demands, but an A side. Lee vs BJS title fight showed that they are both crappy draws, so BJS is clearly not an A side against Eubank Jr.expe wrote: Among anyone with sense that's followed it and understands the situation. Eubank has been offered the fight at least 3 times and has rejected every offer, he can say he wants it all he likes, actions speak louder than words. Saunders is the champion, he has every right to dictate the terms, didn't even really do that judging by what's been said, it was Eubank making the ridiculous demands.
Saunders' demands for a GGG fight are absolutely ridiculous and most likely his demands for Eubank fight were not realistic either.
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Larrylefthook
- Super Welterweight
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Re: Coward BJS fights Bursak
It was nothing to do with BJS it was his promoter who wanted a rematch clause, standard for every voluntary world title fight. If Eubank won that would be 2 big paydays but instead he's going to fight for 10x less.ikorolev wrote:Common knowledge ? Among who ? British Gypsies ? You are just listening to one side and ignoring the other. To me, it sounds like BJS wanted to dictate terms, and it didn't work.Larrylefthook wrote:Its common knowledge Eubank turned down a fight against BJS multiple times, even before BJS won the world title but Eubank turned down the rematch because he didn't want to lose his interim title! Now he's turned down another title opportunity against Jacobs do you want to dispute that too?ikorolev wrote:
Right, and promoters are only telling the truth, so help them God. Amen.
If Frank was lying Eubank would call him out on it and demand the fight with BJS but he hasn't said anything because the fact is he's rejected multiple offers. He says he can beat GGG but has turned down fights with Jacobs and BJS.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12 ... gotiations
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... to-rematch
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Larrylefthook
- Super Welterweight
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He's not the A side, he was fighting in shopping centres before Frank signed him, it was the rivalry between them that made the fight big.ikorolev wrote:It is not a champion who is supposed to make demands, but an A side. Lee vs BJS title fight showed that they are both crappy draws, so BJS is clearly not an A side against Eubank Jr.expe wrote: Among anyone with sense that's followed it and understands the situation. Eubank has been offered the fight at least 3 times and has rejected every offer, he can say he wants it all he likes, actions speak louder than words. Saunders is the champion, he has every right to dictate the terms, didn't even really do that judging by what's been said, it was Eubank making the ridiculous demands.
Saunders' demands for a GGG fight are absolutely ridiculous and most likely his demands for Eubank fight were not realistic either.
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Larrylefthook
- Super Welterweight
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So you agree Canelo can make all the demands he wants against GGG then as he is the A side?ikorolev wrote:It is not a champion who is supposed to make demands, but an A side. Lee vs BJS title fight showed that they are both crappy draws, so BJS is clearly not an A side against Eubank Jr.expe wrote: Among anyone with sense that's followed it and understands the situation. Eubank has been offered the fight at least 3 times and has rejected every offer, he can say he wants it all he likes, actions speak louder than words. Saunders is the champion, he has every right to dictate the terms, didn't even really do that judging by what's been said, it was Eubank making the ridiculous demands.
Saunders' demands for a GGG fight are absolutely ridiculous and most likely his demands for Eubank fight were not realistic either.
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Saunders agreed his side of the deal. Eubank's demands are the reason the fight hasn't happened.ikorolev wrote:It is not a champion who is supposed to make demands, but an A side. Lee vs BJS title fight showed that they are both crappy draws, so BJS is clearly not an A side against Eubank Jr.expe wrote: Among anyone with sense that's followed it and understands the situation. Eubank has been offered the fight at least 3 times and has rejected every offer, he can say he wants it all he likes, actions speak louder than words. Saunders is the champion, he has every right to dictate the terms, didn't even really do that judging by what's been said, it was Eubank making the ridiculous demands.
Saunders' demands for a GGG fight are absolutely ridiculous and most likely his demands for Eubank fight were not realistic either.
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Yes, except the weight. If Canelo's financial and other demands are not accepted by GGG, then it will go to purse bids and Canelo will get whatever split is mandated for a champion by WBC.Larrylefthook wrote:So you agree Canelo can make all the demands he wants against GGG then as he is the A side?ikorolev wrote:It is not a champion who is supposed to make demands, but an A side. Lee vs BJS title fight showed that they are both crappy draws, so BJS is clearly not an A side against Eubank Jr.expe wrote: Among anyone with sense that's followed it and understands the situation. Eubank has been offered the fight at least 3 times and has rejected every offer, he can say he wants it all he likes, actions speak louder than words. Saunders is the champion, he has every right to dictate the terms, didn't even really do that judging by what's been said, it was Eubank making the ridiculous demands.
Saunders' demands for a GGG fight are absolutely ridiculous and most likely his demands for Eubank fight were not realistic either.
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