A Heavyweight Game.

[davie]

I know people will probably scream at me but...

David Tua beats Joe Louis.

Vitali K?

Well, what did Tomasino expect, picking Louis?

You can do better than that surely, Davie?

Clearly you over estimate the depth of my historical boxing knowledge.
It took me to find someone to beat Tommy Morrison, what chance have I got of picking someone to beat arguably the best heavyweight of all time

[Kurgen22]

Vitali K.

Vitali goes in against a later 70s era Earnie Shavers. Vitali uses his Hieght and Reach in the first three rounds to keep Earnie off and is winning on al cards. In the 4th Earnie is able to slip one of Vitali's jabs and as Vitali brings it back too low Earnie lands an overhand bomb drops Vitali and opens a huge gash on his left eyebrow. Vitali holds on for the rest of the round and fends off Shavers. Earnie comes out winging in the fourth. He doesnt land any bigs shots but cut isnt getting any better. The corner tries to stop the flow but the Referee stops the action in the 6th and consults the ring side Physician who stops it,

My Champ Lucas Browne,

[stevedoc]

Vitali K.

Vitali goes in against a later 70s era Earnie Shavers. Vitali uses his Hieght and Reach in the first three rounds to keep Earnie off and is winning on al cards. In the 4th Earnie is able to slip one of Vitali's jabs and as Vitali brings it back too low Earnie lands an overhand bomb drops Vitali and opens a huge gash on his left eyebrow. Vitali holds on for the rest of the round and fends off Shavers. Earnie comes out winging in the fourth. He doesnt land any bigs shots but cut isnt getting any better. The corner tries to stop the flow but the Referee stops the action in the 6th and consults the ring side Physician who stops it,

My Champ Lucas Browne,

Andrew Golota ... he'd ko brown mid rounds

my champ oliver mccall

[witherspoon]

Vitali K.

Vitali goes in against a later 70s era Earnie Shavers. Vitali uses his Hieght and Reach in the first three rounds to keep Earnie off and is winning on al cards. In the 4th Earnie is able to slip one of Vitali's jabs and as Vitali brings it back too low Earnie lands an overhand bomb drops Vitali and opens a huge gash on his left eyebrow. Vitali holds on for the rest of the round and fends off Shavers. Earnie comes out winging in the fourth. He doesnt land any bigs shots but cut isnt getting any better. The corner tries to stop the flow but the Referee stops the action in the 6th and consults the ring side Physician who stops it,

My Champ Lucas Browne,

I came damn close to picking Shavers over Vitali. I was just too lazy and unimaginative to identify his route to victory. I'm happy with that scenario though, nice post

[davie]

Quick Tillis outpoints McCall.

Jack Dempsey?

A mid 40s Elmer Ray drops him 4 times on route to a 5th round stoppage.
Dempsey leaves the ring looking like he was hit by a train.

Lennox Lewis

[Tomasino]

Quick Tillis outpoints McCall.

Jack Dempsey?

A mid 40s Elmer Ray drops him 4 times on route to a 5th round stoppage.
Dempsey leaves the ring looking like he was hit by a train.

Lennox Lewis

Ron Lyle beats Lennox Lewis.

Joe Frazier?

After taking an utter shellacking for 10 rounds, Archie Moores precision and late rounds power starts to tell on a wearying Joe. In the 14th, as Joe dips at the waist to fire a hook, Moore times him with a perfect right hand, like the one that floored the rock. Joe rises at 8 but Moore puts the clinical finishing touches to another historic, come from behind KO.

Edit: James J Jeffries in prime

[witherspoon]

Come on Tomasino, keep the ball rolling. I'm enjoying this.

[Tomasino]

Come on Tomasino, keep the ball rolling. I'm enjoying this.

Edited, sorry, am literally just off the plane from holiday.

[witherspoon]

Edit: James J Jeffries in prime

Nice one. I'll go with Jimmy Bivins.

Evander Holyfield.

[Cygnus475]

Edit: James J Jeffries in prime

Nice one. I'll go with Jimmy Bivins.

Evander Holyfield.

Holyfield is putting on a boxing clinic, using good footwork and pelting the challeger Ruddock with jabs and beautiful combinations. He gets in and out, winning points and avoiding the ropes. Behind on scorecards, Ruddock opens up with a jab of his on, then feint and ends up cornering the champion.

Ruddock throws what appears to be a hook. Holyfield is about to time him with a right cross but he miscalculates the trajectory and is hit flush by a smash. Instead of holding on or blocking, the champ responds to the crowds roars by throwing a roundhouse right cross. This is exactly what Ruddock wanted.

Louis Douva is banging his hands on the canvas and telling Holyfield to back off, but to no avail. They are trading punches. Blood and sweat spray into the air like fireworks. The crowd is on its feet and both names are being chanted. It's only the 5th round but they're getting their money's worth as the champion digs into Ruddocks body with three hit combo. Ruddock gasps for air, then throws a right and misses. Holyfield is about to punish his mistake but walks right into another desperate hail mary smash and sinks into the canvas. He gets up at the count of 7, but his legs are shakey and the corner throws in the towel.


My champ: Max Baer.

[Kurgen22]

"My champ: Max Baer"

2011 edition of Tomasz Adamez, having gone 12 rounds in 4 of his last 5 fights climbs in the ring against Max. Max is in good spirits and waving at his newest love interest, Chloe Kardashian sitting at ringside.
The bell rings and Max mugs for the first two rounds, then starts stalking Adamez in the 3rd. He manages to stagger the Pole in the 4th but he can't finish him off. The fight is fairly uneventful through 7, then Max starts to tire. Tomasz wins the next 4 rounds by slight margins but he has built up a lead that forces Max to go for broke. Max comes out winging in the 11th, but Adamez weathers the Livermore Larrupers assault and avoids any damage. Max is spent in the last round and the Pole outboxes him easily, and has Max covering up at the Bell.
Final Score 117-114, 116-114 and 117-113, Unanimous for the new Champ Tomasz Adamez. Max announces his retirement, saying he was going to Help out with Chloe's Newest Reality TV show " Boxing and Booty".

My Champ David Haye

[Cutman Scabbers]

My Champ: David Haye

Archie Moore comes out shucking and jiving behind his patented cross-arm defense. Haye moves
around, bouncing jabs and couple right hands off The Old Mongoose's thick forearms. By round
two, Haye is landing a few off Moore's forehead. Moore tries to slide his way inside, but Haye still
keeps his distance. Rounds three and four find Haye ripping in more combinations off the jab, still
landing only above the eyebrows, but bruising Moore up. Moore dips and slips craftily, but can't
get any good angles or openings for a counter. Too fast and too slick for the aged veteran, Haye
turns up the heat in five, mixing in right uppercuts and left hooks to get under and around Moore's
cross-arm guard. One quick right uppercut gets in, jacking Moore's head up, but Moore slips the
follow-up hook. Moments later, Haye tries the same combination again. As Moore catches the right
uppercut with the palm of his right glove, he lifts his head up and yells "HEY!!" then launches a sneaky
right cross, catching the surprised Haye mid-left hook on the point of the chin for the ten count.

My champ: Bonecrusher Smith

[Tomasino]

My Champ: David Haye

Archie Moore comes out shucking and jiving behind his patented cross-arm defense. Haye moves
around, bouncing jabs and couple right hands off The Old Mongoose's thick forearms. By round
two, Haye is landing a few off Moore's forehead. Moore tries to slide his way inside, but Haye still
keeps his distance. Rounds three and four find Haye ripping in more combinations off the jab, still
landing only above the eyebrows, but bruising Moore up. Moore dips and slips craftily, but can't
get any good angles or openings for a counter. Too fast and too slick for the aged veteran, Haye
turns up the heat in five, mixing in right uppercuts and left hooks to get under and around Moore's
cross-arm guard. One quick right uppercut gets in, jacking Moore's head up, but Moore slips the
follow-up hook. Moments later, Haye tries the same combination again. As Moore catches the right
uppercut with the palm of his right glove, he lifts his head up and yells "HEY!!" then launches a sneaky
right cross, catching the surprised Haye mid-left hook on the point of the chin for the ten count.

My champ: Bonecrusher Smith

Great match up


Gerry Cooney beats Smith.

Witherspoon had said Ruby Robert Fitzsimmons but no one took him up so...

Bob Fitzsimmons.

[davie]

Bob Fitzsimmons vs Henry Cooper
Foleys hall, Sydney, New South Wales, 2 men of similar stature face off.
Henry faces a hostile crowd but does not seem affected and goes to work early in the first round and looks to be winning it until 40 seconds to go, Bob counters with a right hand Cooper never saw coming. Bob lays on the pressure and takes the rounds with a shell shocked Cooper staggering back to his corner.
The next few rounds continue in similar vein of form, a good effort by Henry but just not enough. His under rated boxing skills matched by Bob and his heavy left hand no match for Fitzsimmons sledgehammer right.
Well behind going into the 9th Henry finds the big left hook and drops Bob, who uses his experience and takes the full9 seconds before rising. The British fighter appears to have won over the partisan Oz crown as some start cheering his every move but before long Bob gets back in the swing and works sensibly and cautiously to a comfortable points win which doesn't do service to our 'Enry's brave efforts.
The challenger will have to go back to the drawing board as a rematch is a certainty.

[davie]

2 years on the match the world want to see is made, Wembley Stadium packed to the rafters, reminiscent of Froch v Groves.

Bouyed by the home support Henry starts out the way he did the first. It appears he has no memory of the first encounter, emotion gets the better and he starts making the same mistakes as the first fight. Bob Fitzsimmons, not a man to be fearful of a hostile crowd picks apart Henry.
Age has been kinder to the UK born Aussie, pushing the 40 mark, he seems to still have the reflexes and skills he had 20 years earlier. Towards the middle rounds it looks all but over, with Bob taking every rounds and now toying with Henry, he gets complacent in the 7th and walks straight on to a left hook that send him sprawling to the ropes. Only the ropes hold him up but Henry, in no position to be taking any chances, slams home a straight right hand that knock Fitzsimmons unconscious.
As if stunned the capacity Wembley crowd falls silent, seconds pass like minutes before the realisation sets in. Cooper, the most loved boxer in UK boxing history has achieved the unthinkable.
The crowds go wild and the parties in london last late into the night

My new champion is Riddick Bowe

[Tuan_Jim]

Gerry Cooney?

Alex Garcia would have beaten cooney.

My Champ is Mike Tyson, I think its going to be interesting what contender comes up here that would have beaten a prime Tyson.

Mimmy, I love and enjoy your tapes, but you can't seriously think Alex Garcia would have beaten Gerry Cooney. The guy who went life & death with Eric Curry, was whacked by Dixon and Lane, beats Gerry Cooney?

Of all the deranged calls in this thread (Chuvalo beating Tyson etc), that's the most absurd. Cooney doesn't go so easy as Bernard Benton.

[davie]

Gerry Cooney?

Alex Garcia would have beaten cooney.

My Champ is Mike Tyson, I think its going to be interesting what contender comes up here that would have beaten a prime Tyson.

Mimmy, I love and enjoy your tapes, but you can't seriously think Alex Garcia would have beaten Gerry Cooney. The guy who went life & death with Eric Curry, was whacked by Dixon and Lane, beats Gerry Cooney?

Of all the deranged calls in this thread (Chuvalo beating Tyson etc), that's the most absurd. Cooney doesn't go so easy as Bernard Benton.

I don't think you are entering into the spirit of the game. From the very first match up, when Eddie Machen whupped a prime George Foreman, I instantly realised there is no point trying to reason with any suggestion on this thread, just go with it.

I'm surprised this thread has gone as long as it has without breaking into a full blown argument.

Just wait until Ali enters the ring and I suggest Audley A-force Harrison uses his height and reach to hold off the Louisville lip before detonating that famous left hand on a tired and weary Ali.

[Counter-puncher]

Alex Garcia would have beaten cooney.

My Champ is Mike Tyson, I think its going to be interesting what contender comes up here that would have beaten a prime Tyson.

Mimmy, I love and enjoy your tapes, but you can't seriously think Alex Garcia would have beaten Gerry Cooney. The guy who went life & death with Eric Curry, was whacked by Dixon and Lane, beats Gerry Cooney?

Of all the deranged calls in this thread (Chuvalo beating Tyson etc), that's the most absurd. Cooney doesn't go so easy as Bernard Benton.

I don't think you are entering into the spirit of the game. From the very first match up, when Eddie Machen whupped a prime George Foreman.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'd give Garcia a better shot of beating Cooney than Gerry would have against Bonecrusher!

Bowe is a tough one, that night he beat Evander he was a fighting machine. Have to be someone tricky and tough.

Jimmy Young

Champ: Ingo

[davie]

I'd give Garcia a better shot of beating Cooney than Gerry would have against Bonecrusher!

Bowe is a tough one, that night he beat Evander he was a fighting machine. Have to be someone tricky and tough.

Jimmy Young

Champ: Ingo

January 60
Ingemar enters the ring, having handily dealt with Eddie Machen (slayer of Big George) in 1 and demolishing Floyd Patterson, brimming with confidence and having disregarded and disrespected his challenger Michael Dokes in the build up.
He looks in far from his career best shape and unmotivated.. Dokes, in inspired form, betters the shorter Swede in the opening 4 rounds using the jab to good effect and keeping Johansson swinging at nothing.
Realising he's behind, Ingemar goes looking for the big shot and starts getting found all too easily in the 5th and looks a beaten man walking out for the 6th.
One heavy unanswered shot too many and the Swedish corner mercifully throw in the towel.

It had to happen eventually, I'll pick the greatest, Muhammad Ali as the next champion.

[Mimmy]

Gerry Cooney?

Alex Garcia would have beaten cooney.

My Champ is Mike Tyson, I think its going to be interesting what contender comes up here that would have beaten a prime Tyson.

Mimmy, I love and enjoy your tapes, but you can't seriously think Alex Garcia would have beaten Gerry Cooney. The guy who went life & death with Eric Curry, was whacked by Dixon and Lane, beats Gerry Cooney?

Of all the deranged calls in this thread (Chuvalo beating Tyson etc), that's the most absurd. Cooney doesn't go so easy as Bernard Benton.

did you see 90 year old George foreman against Cooney?

[witherspoon]

Muhammad Ali v Tony Galento

Ali shows no sign of his usual clowning as he makes his way to the ring. He's dead serious and there's just a hint of tension in his body language.

Galento's incessantly referring to him as Cassius Clay is nothing that Ali hasn't had to deal with.
But Tony's tireless repetition of the name, his big voice booming out across the pre fight presser venue and drowning out all attempts by Ali to make himself heard seems to have angered Ali in a way that very few have managed to do before. Galento brandishing a big raw pork chop and threatening to lob it at Ali was the final straw, resulting in both men having to be restrained and escorted away by security.

There's bad blood between these two.

Ali starts fast, battering Galento with blistering 4--5-6 punch combinations of straight punches spearing through Galento''s high guard. Galento is bleeding profusely from mouth and nose at the end of round 1 and has barely laid a glove on the champ.

Rounds 2,3 and 4 go much the same way, the damage to Galento's face accumulating steadily.

Galento seems a little unsteady on his legs coming out for the fifth and Ali starts to plant his feet and throw hard left hooks and full blooded crosses at his bloody foe. Galento capitalises on Ali's proximity to finally get through with a couple of hard punches of his own, and this seems to please him. He starts talking to Ali, instigating clinches for the first time in the fight- not as a survival tactic but to get close enough to make his insults heard. It's impossible to make out what he's saying above the din of the crowd.

Ali continues his merciless beat down in round 6 and though Galento is hurt and visibly shaken, there's a tangible sense of uncertainty. Ali is clearly angered by his opponents insults and you just start to wonder how he's going to react if he punches himself out and Galento is still standing there scorning his efforts, questioning his manhood and his fighting ability.

But that moment when reality seems poised on a knife edge between the surreal and the expected passes in the blink of an eye.

Galento's legs finally give way after a prolonged flurry and Ali gives him no chance to recover, battering him until he sits heavily on the canvas, still spitting defiance.

He pulls himself up at the count of 8 and his legs are unsteady but he convinces the referee with some colourful language to allow him to continue.
He beckons Ali forward and Ali is only too happy to oblige, raining down punches on Galento's head as Galento bends at the waist. As Galento's legs fold under him, Ali continues to hit him, landing 4 punches on his opponent before he is pulled away.

Before the referee can start to count over Galento, the stricken fighters corner men are screaming at the referee, protesting loudly and aggressively at Ali hitting Galento while he was down, calling for Ali to be disqualified.

The ref looks uncertain, poised between two courses of action, Ali is beginning to look anxious standing in the neutral corner. And that minor indication of guilt might be enough to tip the balance of the referee's decision.
His motion of holding a finger in front of Galento's face to start the count clumsily transforms into a move to raise the stricken fighter from the canvas and wave the fight off, raising Galento's arm to indicate the winner.

Galento bawls across the ring at the top of his voice and Ali looks like he can't decide how to react.

[Cygnus475]

That was hilarious. Galento is probably one of the few people who could have gotten under Ali's skin. It would probably look like a combination of the Patterson and wepner fights.

Since you didn't nominate a champ, I pick Earnie Terrel. Which contender can untangle the octopus?

[stevedoc]

That was hilarious. Galento is probably one of the few people who could have gotten under Ali's skin. It would probably look like a combination of the Patterson and wepner fights.

Since you didn't nominate a champ, I pick Earnie Terrel. Which contender can untangle the octopus?

Zeljko Mavrovic outworks and outpoints Terrel.

Henry Akinwande?

gary mason lands a big left hook to take akinwande out late in the fight

my champ ....micheal dokes

[witherspoon]

Luis Angel Firpo comes from behind on all 3 cards to score a 15 round stoppage win with a hail Mary roundhouse punch in the final minute, Greg Page having become complacent in the last 3 rounds and allowed Firpo to boss him around the ring, fully believing that his opponent doesnt have the punch to cause him too much trouble.
Referee stops the fight with Page in serious trouble on the ropes.

Mike Weaver.