Modern Day Bare Knucklers

[hhaehre]

Ahhhh.... another man under Gunn's pay roll..... why dont you tell your boss, to have "junior" fight me in an mma cage?

Will the cage fight take place before or after the Hartley fight?

[gp.]

Ahhhh.... another man under Gunn's pay roll..... why dont you tell your boss, to have "junior" fight me in an mma cage?

And I aint reading all that babble. It is what it is. The fact you mentioned a former friend, turn bastard turncoat, shows your intentions. The man is a fraud, always has been. And you can tell Robert Logan Williamson I said that. I know more on his bunch than he even realizes. What does he think I've been doing since our split? Sitting on my ass? Nah. Been collecting information.

Henry, does it strike you that all these people that you think are great turn out to be utter bastards seeking only to do you down? Does that not make you think that you must be a terrible judge of character, and easy to deceive? And, to stay on topic for the thread, does that not make you think that other people's judgement when it comes to these wild stories from gypsies is probably better than your own?

[Matt the Master]

"Rufus homicide henry gypsy robbins defibaugh" Lol you thinking that I'm a part of Bobby Gunn's entourage !!! Fyi I think Gunn is only slightly less of a bum than you are, and his absurd claims of being the last bkb champion since John L Sullivan are exactly that.....absurd !!! Anyone can get a belt made up and claim to be a champion !

So no, I think that dispels your assertion that I am paid by team Gunn lol !!!

It clearly hasn't occured to you that I might just have seen your pathetic ramblings and boasts online lol, and I noticed that you got ko'd in your one and only professional bout on Gunn's facebook page ! Seems if your going to fall out with Gunn, you shouldn't do so publicly, especially seeing as he can rip into you on account of your awful performance in the ring ! Gunn is no great shakes himself, but at least he does hold the distinction of being a one time world champion in boxing ! So in other words people in glass housea definitely shouldn't throw stones !!! Ha Haaaa boom boom, you couldn't make this shit up !!! "In Bobby Gunn's camp" I suppose it might make you feel rather important for you to believe that, sorry but your nothing but a shit boxer giving it on here about how great you are !!! So I thought I would pull you up on it ;)

[Matt the Master]

By the way who the hell is "Robert Logan Williamson" ??? Never heard of the fella !

And as for you being of Romany stock, I know many Romany Chells, and never have I heard of the name "Defibaugh" ! It sounds French or something, but it certainly isn't Romany !!!

Quit lying and acting the big man in the online world, when you cant be the same in the REAL WORLD !!! BUM !!!

[CiganoBoxer]

By the way who the hell is "Robert Logan Williamson" ??? Never heard of the fella !

And as for you being of Romany stock, I know many Romany Chells, and never have I heard of the name "Defibaugh" ! It sounds French or something, but it certainly isn't Romany !!!

Quit lying and acting the big man in the online world, when you cant be the same in the REAL WORLD !!! BUM !!!

I am pure bred romany gypsy from the uk and i got to admit i have never heard of the name "Defibaugh"

[Matt the Master]

I know Cigano boxer ! Sounds a bit French to me lol

Ok Rufus Defibaugh (I'm not bothering to type in your 'full name' from now on lol ! I just checked you out. You had 1 fight a full 5 years ago against one 'J'Leon Love' and in this 1 fight you stayed upright (on your feet) for a grand total of 47 seconds........Yes that's right !!! 47 seconds of the FIRST ROUND !!! And you never have fought since ! And you call out Bobby Gunn with those woefully awful pittiful stats ??? As I said I am no Gunn supporter, but glass houses and all that :)

Not being funny, but why would any promoter want to book a fighter with a record like your's who has been inactive for a full 5 years ???

Time to throw in the towel methinks sonny boy

[CiganoBoxer]

I spoke to Bobby Gunn on the phone a few times ,i like him he's proper man an class act to me .
He told me that the Rufus Defibaugh he knows is sex offender

[Matt the Master]

I spoke to Bobby Gunn on the phone a few times ,i like him he's proper man an class act to me .
He told me that the Rufus Defibaugh he knows is sex offender

Woah.......I can't comment on something as serious as that, that I can't substantiate ! People should never repeat accusations like that unless there is substantiated proof ! Bobby Gunn should have proof if not he should know better. I don't know much about Gunn, except for the fact that he seems to be to me a major ass licker of the gypsy/traveller community, and is a failure in the boxing ring, getting owned and whooped by Enzo Maccarinelli, Thomas Adamek, and James Toney amongst others, seems every time he faced world class opposition he got his ass handed to him ! He is only a middle of the road type boxer, as evidenced by the fact that as soon as he steps up a level he get's beaten by class opposition ! He claims to be a 6 time cruiserweight champion, only problem with that is they are all from unrecognised sanctioning bodies, bit like his joke bkb world 'heavyweight' title, which he claims is the same title won by John L Sullivan ! The man claims all of this with his fake made up belt, but doesn't actively defend it ! Why is this ? He says because the challenger has to match his money he wants to fight for, which he said elsewhere was never for less than £50,000, and that they have to come to him (so much for it being a "world title" when people have to fly from wherever in the world they may be to meet him) He doesn't make it easy that's for sure ! But the problem is NO ONE RECOGNISES Bobby's fake title, or the fact that he is a champion ! A pro champion boxer say with the WBC, would have to defend that title at least 3 times a year, yet Bobby has only 2 fights that anyone knows about since winning this supposed "world bkb heavyweight championship" ! As I said the reason he get's no challenges is because no one else sees it as something worth fighting for, because it has ZERO credibility and is a JOKE to everyone but Bobby Gunn !

I now see he is riding on the coattails of Tyson Fury, and following him around when he came over to the Wilder/Spilzka fight, and has also tried to legitimise his fake bkb title by clearly begging Tyson to do a video posted on youtube in which he endorses Gunn's laughable claims ! I like Tyson and he is a TRUE champion who is at risk of making himself a laughing stock in trying to legitimise Gunn's absurd claims ! Tyson Fury is a real champion who succeeded where Bobby Gunn couldn't, IN THE RING !!!

And as a result of being shown what a middle of the road fighter he really is, he seeks to make himself a "World Champion" in boxing of the bareknuckle variety.

Bobby Gunn is nothing but a joke man, a shit fighter, with a shit title that means nish !!!

[Matt the Master]

Anyway seems I have silenced Mr Defibaugh for the time being lol ! Though I did check out "ATG Radio" on youtube that he appears on (apart from his one sided trouncing at the hands of J'Leon Love !) In one particilar episode he rather stupidly told Steve Cunningham he "didn't want the gravy train to be squashed" it was funny as hell and made Steve go mad quite understandably, especially seeing as he had only just got ko'd by Tyson Fury, with a right hook he claims was illegal (he may have a point !) Clearly it was a phone in as I doubt our little friend Henry defibaugh or Suicide Henry or whatever he calls himself would have had the stones to say it to Steve's face ! But it made me laugh my ass off, so it was worth it !!!

[Oiky]

bobby gunn is a gorja man and so is rufus. not doing a man down, gunn has fought in the ring in hes time so he deserves respect and so has rufus, what ever the case was, both men still fought, but bobby has no links to traveller or romany blood and neither do's rufus

[Redback Rasta]

About a year ago celebrity gangster Dave Courtney applied for a licence to hold bare-knuckle boxing matches in his back garden >>>



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... arden.html

[HomicideHenry]

I spoke to Bobby Gunn on the phone a few times ,i like him he's proper man an class act to me .
He told me that the Rufus Defibaugh he knows is sex offender

If the man has indeed said that, then he will personally see me in court for slander, as ANYONE can pay $1 and do a criminal background check on ANYONE in the country and see that the ONLY thing on my record (other than parking tickets) was a fine for open container charge around 2008. Do you have screen shots or proof of him saying this at all? If so I would very much like to see it and take this man (him being a public figure as an athlete and "world champion") to civil court and sue him for every nickel and dime that he has.

[Matt the Master]

I spoke to Bobby Gunn on the phone a few times ,i like him he's proper man an class act to me .
He told me that the Rufus Defibaugh he knows is sex offender

If the man has indeed said that, then he will personally see me in court for slander, as ANYONE can pay $1 and do a criminal background check on ANYONE in the country and see that the ONLY thing on my record (other than parking tickets) was a fine for open container charge around 2008. Do you have screen shots or proof of him saying this at all? If so I would very much like to see it and take this man (him being a public figure as an athlete and "world champion") to civil court and sue him for every nickel and dime that he has.

Relax Rufus !!!
Cigano Boxer stated that Bobby Gunn mentioned to him that the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh that HE KNOWS, is a sex offender.......How do we know that Bobby Gunn wasn't referring to some other "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" ???

I suppose your now going to tell me "There's ONLY ONE Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" in a manner similar to when Tyson Fury confronted Deontay Wilder after storming the ring after the Wilder/Spilkza fight.....

[Giancarlo]

I spoke to Bobby Gunn on the phone a few times ,i like him he's proper man an class act to me .
He told me that the Rufus Defibaugh he knows is sex offender

If the man has indeed said that, then he will personally see me in court for slander, as ANYONE can pay $1 and do a criminal background check on ANYONE in the country and see that the ONLY thing on my record (other than parking tickets) was a fine for open container charge around 2008. Do you have screen shots or proof of him saying this at all? If so I would very much like to see it and take this man (him being a public figure as an athlete and "world champion") to civil court and sue him for every nickel and dime that he has.

Relax Rufus !!!
Cigano Boxer stated that Bobby Gunn mentioned to him that the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh that HE KNOWS, is a sex offender.......How do we know that Bobby Gunn wasn't referring to some other "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" ???

I suppose your now going to tell me "There's ONLY ONE Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" in a manner similar to when Tyson Fury confronted Deontay Wilder after storming the ring after the Wilder/Spilkza fight.....

It's pretty obvious that the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" that Bobby Gunn is calling a nonce is a different "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" to the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" who thinks Bobby Gunn is calling him a nonce.

[palooka]

Nonce has definitely been BoxRec word of the month.

[Tomasino]

Nonce has definitely been BoxRec word of the month.

I'm saddened by the outing of so many nonces...no real surprises though

[Matt the Master]

If the man has indeed said that, then he will personally see me in court for slander, as ANYONE can pay $1 and do a criminal background check on ANYONE in the country and see that the ONLY thing on my record (other than parking tickets) was a fine for open container charge around 2008. Do you have screen shots or proof of him saying this at all? If so I would very much like to see it and take this man (him being a public figure as an athlete and "world champion") to civil court and sue him for every nickel and dime that he has.

Relax Rufus !!!
Cigano Boxer stated that Bobby Gunn mentioned to him that the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh that HE KNOWS, is a sex offender.......How do we know that Bobby Gunn wasn't referring to some other "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" ???

I suppose your now going to tell me "There's ONLY ONE Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" in a manner similar to when Tyson Fury confronted Deontay Wilder after storming the ring after the Wilder/Spilkza fight.....

Indeed, it is pretty obvious that Bobby Gunn was referring to a different "Rufus Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" ! I mean the name is not exactly uncommon now is it ? There must be hundreds of thousands of "Rufus Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins'" in the world ! I just looked online at the trends for new baby names, and "Rufus Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" is right up there in the popularity stakes, alongside such names as David, John, and Paul ! Infact I might name my next child "Doofus Suicide Henry Gorja Bobbins Defibaugh" as I am original so will not copy Homicide Henry's name in it's entirety, but I still want to pay homage to such a great fighter, and accomplished boxer, that I will name my baby son after such a great man !!! So "Doofus Suicide Gorja Bobbins Defibaugh" it is then !

It's pretty obvious that the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" that Bobby Gunn is calling a nonce is a different "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" to the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" who thinks Bobby Gunn is calling him a nonce.

[nfc90210]

Mens Journal have just done a big feature on Bobby Gunn.

I'm always skeptical when people claim huge undefeated records in bare knuckle competition, and this story quotes Gunn as being 71-0 in bareknuckle fights. I'm suspicious but don't know enough to call bullshit on the claim. I should state, for the record, that I'm not calling Gunn a liar. I really don't know enough about him to do that. Past experience though has taught to be suspicious of extraordinary claims, no matter who is making them. My sense is, that unlike boxing or MMA where modern record keeping is pretty good, that it's impossible to verify bareknuckle records one way or another. Is that correct?

Bobby Gunn: Champion of the Underworld

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/pri ... d-20160307

Edit: Typo

[Matt the Master]

Relax Rufus !!!
Cigano Boxer stated that Bobby Gunn mentioned to him that the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh that HE KNOWS, is a sex offender.......How do we know that Bobby Gunn wasn't referring to some other "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" ???

I suppose your now going to tell me "There's ONLY ONE Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" in a manner similar to when Tyson Fury confronted Deontay Wilder after storming the ring after the Wilder/Spilkza fight.....

Indeed, it is pretty obvious that Bobby Gunn was referring to a different "Rufus Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" ! I mean the name is not exactly uncommon now is it ? There must be hundreds of thousands of "Rufus Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins'" in the world ! I just looked online at the trends for new baby names, and "Rufus Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" is right up there in the popularity stakes, alongside such names as David, John, and Paul ! Infact I might name my next child "Doofus Suicide Henry Gorja Bobbins Defibaugh" as I am original so will not copy Homicide Henry's name in it's entirety, but I still want to pay homage to such a great fighter, and accomplished boxer, that I will name my baby son after such a great man !!! So "Doofus Suicide Gorja Bobbins Defibaugh" it is then !

After many attempts to engage Mr "Rufus Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" to bring him to task over his outlandish claims, it seems the only word that is strong enough to warrant a response is the word "nonce".........

It's pretty obvious that the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" that Bobby Gunn is calling a nonce is a different "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" to the "Homicide Henry Gypsy Robbins Defibaugh" who thinks Bobby Gunn is calling him a nonce.

[HomicideHenry]

Men Journal have just done a big feature on Bobby Gunn.

I'm always skeptical when people claim huge undefeated records in bare knuckle competition, and this story quotes Gunn as being 71-0 in bareknuckle fights. I'm suspicious but don't know enough to call bullshit on the claim. I should state, for the record, that I'm not calling Gunn a liar. I really don't know enough about him to do that. Past experience though has taught to be suspicious of extraordinary claims, no matter who is making them. My sense is, that unlike boxing or MMA where modern record keeping is pretty good, that it's impossible to verify bareknuckle records one way or another. Is that correct?

Bobby Gunn: Champion of the Underworld

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/pri ... d-20160307

Its all bull.....

The "bkb world title" won in Arizona was against his own cousin Bobbie Stewart in a pre-arranged contest.

His "defense" of that belt against "Ernest Jackson" (Taneal Goyco) was also pre-arranged and was supposed to be for a movie.

His "defense" of that belt against "Big Daddy Bang" was also a fixed contest.

The 60 Minutes Sports feature had a movie director being the central figure in "organizing" such contests and the contest with Gunn featured was with a guy who willingly took a dive and was under the director's pay roll.

Anytime Gunn has been called out by real BKB fighters he says he wants $10,000 or $20,000 or even $50,000 or else he won't do the contests at all---- and yet he accepted less than $2,000 to fight Glenn Johnson and less than $5,000 to fight James Toney in professional glove contests while claiming to be the BKB world champion.

Bobby Gunn's real name is Robert Logan Williamson, and he is the fifth great grandson of the original Robert Logan Williamson who immigrated to America from Scotland because the Williamson clan was well known con artists and thieves, who lived a similar lifestyle to the gypsies and travelers but are NOT gypsies or travelers. The Beareau of Bunco Affairs was formed almost immediately after the Williamson family came to America, and if one follows the career path of Gunn wherever he went to compete, there was also crime sprees from family members in its wake. Gunn fought under such names as "Carlos Lopez" when in Arizona, and other aliases so that the crimes never fell directly on his shoulders. He was a diversion, so while customers were at the fights, his family were looting their homes.

Because of the families noteriety, the Williamson's started changing their names to Stewart, Small, Ward, etc. so to further confuse the police and seemingly disappear into thin air. None of these people have a home phone line, but multiple cell phones (often times with numbers from other states) just to further confuse people who get duped by them.

The man is a complete and utter liar, and the "Bare Knuckle Boxing Hall of Fame" in Belfast, New York situated on William Muldoon's farm, as well as the still existing National Police Gazette, are being conned into awarding the man any real distinction as a champion bare knuckle fighter---- when the fact is, he hasn't fought a single bare knuckle contest that was real or legitimate since he started telling all these stories about him fighting in the underground.

[palooka]

The Bureau Of Bunca Affairs? They sound like mean dudes.

[Tomasino]

The Bureau Of Bunca Affairs? They sound like mean dudes.

The story of the 'Williamson' clan is an interesting one Palooka, worth a read.

I have no idea about what Homocide is saying about Gunn being one is true. He fought plenty legit boxing matches it seems...

[palooka]

The Bureau Of Bunca Affairs? They sound like mean dudes.

The story of the 'Williamson' clan is an interesting one Palooka, worth a read.

I have no idea about what Homocide is saying about Gunn being one is true. He fought plenty legit boxing matches it seems...

Hey Tom is there a book about the Williamson's?

[Tomasino]

The Bureau Of Bunca Affairs? They sound like mean dudes.

The story of the 'Williamson' clan is an interesting one Palooka, worth a read.

I have no idea about what Homocide is saying about Gunn being one is true. He fought plenty legit boxing matches it seems...

Hey Tom is there a book about the Williamson's?

Just stuff online that I found, newspaper articles etc. They sounded like quite a gang! Of robbing bastards

Never heard of them here in Scotland though.

[Matt the Master]

Men Journal have just done a big feature on Bobby Gunn.

I'm always skeptical when people claim huge undefeated records in bare knuckle competition, and this story quotes Gunn as being 71-0 in bareknuckle fights. I'm suspicious but don't know enough to call bullshit on the claim. I should state, for the record, that I'm not calling Gunn a liar. I really don't know enough about him to do that. Past experience though has taught to be suspicious of extraordinary claims, no matter who is making them. My sense is, that unlike boxing or MMA where modern record keeping is pretty good, that it's impossible to verify bareknuckle records one
way or another. Is that correct?

We have our own resident bkb con artist here in the UK. His name is Paddy Monaghan, and he claims to have been the "Bkb middleweight champion of the world" retiring with a perfect unblemished record of 114-0 ! In his own words this guy "fought some of the hardest men in the world just to put food on the table" He is an old man now, in his 70's at least, so his supposed career as the "Bkb middleweight champion of the world" had it's start sometime in the 60's, and finished in the early 80's. The problem with all of this is the fact that as you would expect from a man who fought all over the world, there is not a single piece of confirmation outside of his own outlandish claims, not a single newspaper article ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD about a "World champion" who visited such countries as the USA, Canada, and Australia to "defend his title" !!! Let alone the fact that conveniently there is not a single piece of footage from any of his fights ! The reason is simple....IT NEVER HAPPENED !!! Paddy was a minor celebrity of sorts, and HAD been in the papers during the same time period, but not as a fighter, but for being Muhammad Ali's number one cheerleader, and presented 22,000+ signatures to a Mr Ronald Dulch, a representative at the American embassy in London during the Nixon administration, in support of Ali having his licence reinstated, and is also credited with coining the phrase "Ali the people's champion" but this is his ONLY claim to fame ! Seems he was so much in awe of "the greatest" that he wanted a piece for himself, yet through lies and deciet as opposed to actually going out and doing it ! It's also highly relevant that he waited untill Muhammad could no longer speak himself to verify his claims ! His son Tyrone is now in charge of carrying forward this deception, along with one 'Andy Joynes Topliffe' founder of BBAD bkb promotions here in the UK, as he is in a relationship with Paddy's daughter, of course it also benefits him to have the "Bkb middleweight champion of the world" at his events !

Bobby Gunn: Champion of the Underworld

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/pri ... d-20160307