HBO want Cotto-Brook June 13th

[Larrylefthook]

So will Cotto take the Brook fight? Hearn has told HBO they will take the fight but he doesn't think Cotto and ROC nation will take the fight. I would love this fight and cant pick a winner as Cotto showed against Canelo he is still an elite boxer.


Source, listen from 14:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qN3RI-hRC0

[Lancenix]

Cotto would fight at 147? Brook would beat him quite easily at 147.

[Larrylefthook]

They've not said anything about what weight it would be but I assume they could meet in the middle at about 150, i'm sure Cotto would want every possible advantage he can get and i'm sure Brook wouldn't say no just to get a chance against a big star, he can then go back down and defend his title or fight for a title at LMW.

[Lancenix]

They've not said anything about what weight it would be but I assume they could meet in the middle at about 150, i'm sure Cotto would want every possible advantage he can get and i'm sure Brook wouldn't say no just to get a chance against a big star, he can then go back down and defend his title or fight for a title at LMW.

Brook has also given no indication that he wants to fight in the states either. If it is at 150 then no title on the line for Brook. I think he would go for that.

[ikorolev]

Cotto would dictate weight and other conditions, so it would likely be 154-155.

[sweetviolenturge]

It would be a great opportunity for Brook to become an elite level attraction if Cotto wants to fight for his welterweight title. Which, if I'm not mistaken, Cotto's people have indicated that he could cut down to again if he wanted to.
Which, IMO, would be ludicrous for him to do. As almost every single time that an aging fighter has gone from fighting at a higher weight class to a lower one, they've lost & looked awful in the process.
With prime examples of such being Ray Leonard cutting from super middleweight back down to light middleweight ( even though he was never a full blown 168 pounder ) & being shut out by Terry Norris, Delahoya going from middleweight/light middle back down to welter to get stopped by Manny Pac, Emile Griffith going from competing at middleweight for years then going back to '47 to lose convincingly to Jose Napoles. I could go on, but you get the point I'm sure.
Sure, they can the cut down to the lower weight class, but it takes too much out of them.
At the moment, the only exception to the rule that I can think of that had any success doing so was Anthony Mundine.
So, if Cotto does want to fight at '47 again, I think Brook probably stops him late in the fight.

[TooEasy12]

Great fight if it can be made. I'm a big fan of both fighters, and this fight is a lot more attractive than Cotto-Kirkland. Brook paid his dues and has earned a shot a high profile fighter like Cotto. I would safely assume the fight will take place above 147. A 153 catch weight sounds about right. Tough fight to pick but I give a slight edge to Brook.

[Boxing Prospect]

...people trust Eddie Hearn?

[keirw]

From what I can gather Brook kills himself to make 147 and may well be a bigger man (naturally) than Cotto, a fight at 154 would probably suit Brook as much as Cotto.

Good fight if it gets made, but then Brooks name always seems to get mentioned in discussions about good fights, none of which ever seem to materialize.

[PredatorHayds]

Believe it when I see it.

Hearn is as trustworthy as a boy made of wood with a 6 foot nose.

[montrealsuper]

Cotto is in handpicking mode now - can't see him risking it vs young lion Brook either - hope he proves his doubters wrong though - Cotto is a superstar name and just can't see him doing young Brook any favors - plus it would be a very very very VERY hard fight for Cotto -

[lefty]

Cotto would fight at 147? Brook would beat him quite easily at 147.

It would be at 154/155 i'm sure.

[lefty]

Cotto is in handpicking mode now - can't see him risking it vs young lion Brook either - hope he proves his doubters wrong though - Cotto is a superstar name and just can't see him doing young Brook any favors - plus it would be a very very very VERY hard fight for Cotto -

Dont see how that's the case when he's just got done fighting a guy 10 odd years his junior and who is a naturally bigger guy but fair enough.

[Tanzio]

Cotto is in handpicking mode now - can't see him risking it vs young lion Brook either - hope he proves his doubters wrong though - Cotto is a superstar name and just can't see him doing young Brook any favors - plus it would be a very very very VERY hard fight for Cotto -

Dont see how that's the case when he's just got done fighting a guy 10 odd years his junior and who is a naturally bigger guy but fair enough.

Agreed.

GingerHead
Geale
SMartinez
DRod
Austin Trout
FMJ

True, he did not fight 3G. Who expected him to?

[Horse]

Good fight if it gets made, but then Brooks name always seems to get mentioned in discussions about good fights, none of which ever seem to materialize.

Hey, Brook fought a good opponent once. Let's not exaggerate.

[keirw]

Good fight if it gets made, but then Brooks name always seems to get mentioned in discussions about good fights, none of which ever seem to materialize.

Hey, Brook fought a good opponent once. Let's not exaggerate.

OK ok, ONE of which did materialise, but the vast majority are pie in the sky

[Lancenix]

Cotto is in handpicking mode now - can't see him risking it vs young lion Brook either - hope he proves his doubters wrong though - Cotto is a superstar name and just can't see him doing young Brook any favors - plus it would be a very very very VERY hard fight for Cotto -

Dont see how that's the case when he's just got done fighting a guy 10 odd years his junior and who is a naturally bigger guy but fair enough.

Agreed.

GingerHead
Geale
SMartinez
DRod
Austin Trout
FMJ

True, he did not fight 3G. Who expected him to?

But he held the title hostage before losing it to a phony Mexican.

[Wales]

Cotto cant do 147, surely.

Why not Brook, whos 35-0 and IBF champion ffs, fight a current bloody genuine top 5 (even 10) welterweight !!!!!

[Lancenix]

Cotto cant do 147, surely.

Why not Brook, whos 35-0 and IBF champion ffs, fight a current bloody genuine top 5 (even 10) welterweight !!!!!

That just makes too much sense.

[EastHull]

Cotto cant do 147, surely.

Why not Brook, whos 35-0 and IBF champion ffs, fight a current bloody genuine top 5 (even 10) welterweight !!!!!

That just makes too much sense.

Too right, Brook seriously needs to prove a point now. He's got all the tools to beat any top 10 but he's throwing the best years of his career away. He carries on this way and his legacy will be IBF champ 50-0 with a resume of: Binman, Gary from the local offie, Porter, John from down the shops, and his best mate's Nephew's Father in law.

(Actually a big Brook fan)

[Wales]

Cotto cant do 147, surely.

Why not Brook, whos 35-0 and IBF champion ffs, fight a current bloody genuine top 5 (even 10) welterweight !!!!!

That just makes too much sense.

Yep, Brook wins IBF title then defends against

Jo jo dan - smashes him in 4, complete mismatch. (a first fight gimme, ok)
Frankie aGavin (not even #1 in UK!!?)

Now in 3rd defence fights Kevin Bizier (who?) .... Turns out hes lost to JoJo dan already!


How on earth we put up with it, who knows

[Andrew]

...people trust Eddie Hearn?

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The current scene aren't familiar with him.

What Eddie says he will do with Brook and what he does with Brook are completely different

[ArmaanCFC]

Khan fights Canelo, Brook calls out GGG, Khan moves up in weight, Brook wants to move up in weight. This obsession is becoming quite scary.

[PredatorHayds]

Cotto cant do 147, surely.

Why not Brook, whos 35-0 and IBF champion ffs, fight a current bloody genuine top 5 (even 10) welterweight !!!!!

That just makes too much sense.

Yep, Brook wins IBF title then defends against

Jo jo dan - smashes him in 4, complete mismatch. (a first fight gimme, ok)
Frankie aGavin (not even #1 in UK!!?)

Now in 3rd defence fights Kevin Bizier (who?) .... Turns out hes lost to JoJo dan already!


How on earth we put up with it, who knows

I have a bit of sympathy with Brook. Injurys have played a huge factor in this.

IBF have there one defence a year rule. So he had Dan which let him have a year and probably two voluntarys.

He picked Gavin first which was a bit of a gimme but presented him with a good payday and a decent warm up before stepping up in the year.

He finally agrees the Chaves fight who on paper would of been his second best opponent. Unfortunately injury stopped the fight from happening and it got to a point were he had to organise his annual mandatory to free himself up for a superfight in the summer.

Brook was very close to going Dan,Gavin,Chaves,Bizier,Khan. In fairness it isn't to bad. He needs a huge name in the summer though otherwise he's going to attract more criticism.
He's unfortunate his ibf mandatories have been so poor.

[Evander]

Cotto might be closer to Brook at 147.
Brook would have to come out here.