the toughest heavyweight ever?

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 08 Feb 2006, 05:30

i reckon the toughest heavy in history was george chuvalo - what a hard
MF this guy was

Crease · Post by **Crease** » 08 Feb 2006, 07:00

Rocky Marciano, hard as nails!!!

This guy just wasn't accpet defeat at all!!!

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 08 Feb 2006, 13:42

Jim Jefferies and Marciano

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 08 Feb 2006, 16:22

I say Ali, he fought the toughest and took teriffic beatings during his career, Frazier and Marciano are close behind

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 08 Feb 2006, 16:27

Probably Rocky Marciano. Some others: George Chuvalo, Jeffries, Dempsey. One who was underated in this dept. is Gene Tunney. Fought Greb all those times ,the first time absorbing a helluva beating but kept right on dealing.

surf-bat · Post by **surf-bat** » 08 Feb 2006, 16:39

Tom Sharkey. Jim Jeffries. Oscar Bonavena. Marciano.

When I think of the word "tough" I think of guys who could dish it out as well as take it. That takes Chuvalo and Tommy Farr off the list as neither was a particularly big hitter. Same with Joe Grim and Tex Cobb.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 08 Feb 2006, 16:44

I dont know Nero,I hear what your saying, but for me, its a guy who you can hit with your best shots round after round and he just keeps coming after ya.Can be very frustrating.

surf-bat · Post by **surf-bat** » 08 Feb 2006, 18:05

expug wrote:I dont know Nero,I hear what your saying, but for me, its a guy who you can hit with your best shots round after round and he just keeps coming after ya.Can be very frustrating.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I guess "dangerous" would be a more fitting term. Chuvalo, Cobb and Farr were tough, but not dangerous.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 08 Feb 2006, 18:14

Nero3000 wrote:
expug wrote:I dont know Nero,I hear what your saying, but for me, its a guy who you can hit with your best shots round after round and he just keeps coming after ya.Can be very frustrating.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I guess "dangerous" would be a more fitting term. Chuvalo, Cobb and Farr were tough, but not dangerous.

Agreed

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 08 Feb 2006, 20:12

tunney is a great call - not an obvious choice but the beating he took in greb 1 holds him up as a real hard case.
frazier is another good but not obvious choice as you think more of him dishing it out, though bonavena hurt him, ali busted him up and foreman demolished him. still a tough cookie.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 08 Feb 2006, 23:46

Was Tunney ever knocked down other than the Long Count?

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 08 Feb 2006, 23:49

expug wrote:Was Tunney ever knocked down other than the Long Count?

No

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 10 Feb 2006, 23:31

1.) Marciano
2.) Chuvalo
3.) Jefferies
4.) Tex Cobb
5.) Chuck Wepner

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 11 Feb 2006, 13:19

John L Sullivan, James J Jeffries, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Sonny Liston, Oscar Bonavena, Tex Cobb, Larry Holmes, Evander Holyfieidl, Razor Ruddock (for his 2 gos with Tyson) and Tony Tucker (for his fights with Tyson & Lewis). Ray Mercer and David Tua are the 2 toughest heavyweights of the last 15 years to me

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 11 Feb 2006, 13:39

Gotta give props to Jess Willard for getting up after so many knockdowns at the hands of Dempsey