Ward v Barrera RBR

[Lancenix]

I disagree about the pop. That was a good performance, but the pop wasn't enough to disturb Barrera. When the KD happened, he was just caught off balance. Of course, Ward could drop Kova who loses balance a lot the same way, but this kind of pop will not be enough to keep Sergey off Andre.

aggree

like i said in my other thread, bulldozers like bert, adonis and kovalev go through ward and break him appart.

you could see at times ward having problems with the bigger barrera and barrera is a weak lh, look a his ko ratio, he rarely knocks somebody out. with the top light heavyweights it will be a totaly different ball game. but! they have to play their game and not wards game. this is what maidana or castillo did right against floyd, they did what they wanted to do, they didnt play floyds waiting strategy game.

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Krusher wins that fight easy and that is with ward having all the advantages and the fight in his home country. Krusher wins that fight no problem. Ward fights flat footed, he has nothing that is going to hurt Krusher at all.

[Tanzio]

I think he fits in more with Y Gonzalez than Fonfara.

Let's find out v Fonfara. I think that Barrera deserves it.

\Fonfara wins that fight 8 rounds to 4 or so.

Maybe, but Barrera deserves the chance to prove you wrong.

[Tanzio]

aggree

like i said in my other thread, bulldozers like bert, adonis and kovalev go through ward and break him appart.

you could see at times ward having problems with the bigger barrera and barrera is a weak lh, look a his ko ratio, he rarely knocks somebody out. with the top light heavyweights it will be a totaly different ball game. but! they have to play their game and not wards game. this is what maidana or castillo did right against floyd, they did what they wanted to do, they didnt play floyds waiting strategy game.

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Krusher wins that fight easy and that is with ward having all the advantages and the fight in his home country. Krusher wins that fight no problem. Ward fights flat footed, he has nothing that is going to hurt Krusher at all.

Keep clicking your heels and repeating that.

[Lancenix]

Let's find out v Fonfara. I think that Barrera deserves it.

\Fonfara wins that fight 8 rounds to 4 or so.

Maybe, but Barrera deserves the chance to prove you wrong.

I am fine with that but I think the better fight would be against Chavez at 175. I also would say that Pascal vs. Barrera would be a better fight than the Fonfara fight.

[Lancenix]

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Krusher wins that fight easy and that is with ward having all the advantages and the fight in his home country. Krusher wins that fight no problem. Ward fights flat footed, he has nothing that is going to hurt Krusher at all.

Keep clicking your heels and repeating that.

I am taking a side, I see that all your posts on this topic you straddle the fence once again with your nutless opinion and logic. You are taking both krusher and Ward to win.

[TheBeast]

Highlights from the full card including the non tv portion here:
http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 1#p1678731


ENJOY!!!

[Tanzio]

Krusher wins that fight easy and that is with ward having all the advantages and the fight in his home country. Krusher wins that fight no problem. Ward fights flat footed, he has nothing that is going to hurt Krusher at all.

Keep clicking your heels and repeating that.

I am taking a side, I see that all your posts on this topic you straddle the fence once again with your nutless opinion and logic. You are taking both krusher and Ward to win.

No I'm not taking them both to win. I'm simply not ignorant enough to be picking a winner prior to the fight being announced. I make my picks as close as possible to the fight for a reason.

[Lancenix]

Keep clicking your heels and repeating that.

I am taking a side, I see that all your posts on this topic you straddle the fence once again with your nutless opinion and logic. You are taking both krusher and Ward to win.

No I'm not taking them both to win. I'm simply not ignorant enough to be picking a winner prior to the fight being announced. I make my picks as close as possible to the fight for a reason.

Either you are with Krusher or you are against him. There is nothing more to see. It won't matter ward is gonna weasel out of this one anyway.

[Tanzio]

\Fonfara wins that fight 8 rounds to 4 or so.

Maybe, but Barrera deserves the chance to prove you wrong.

I am fine with that but I think the better fight would be against Chavez at 175. I also would say that Pascal vs. Barrera would be a better fight than the Fonfara fight.

I prefer Fonfara v Barrera and The Mexican Prima Dona v Pascal.

[Tanzio]

I am taking a side, I see that all your posts on this topic you straddle the fence once again with your nutless opinion and logic. You are taking both krusher and Ward to win.

No I'm not taking them both to win. I'm simply not ignorant enough to be picking a winner prior to the fight being announced. I make my picks as close as possible to the fight for a reason.

Either you are with Krusher or you are against him. There is nothing more to see. It won't matter ward is gonna weasel out of this one anyway.

That is completely false. I like both fighters. I don't make my picks based on who is my favorite. I make my picks based on the information I have at the moment that I choose. That information can change drastically from day to day, let alone year to year.

[diddy]

Man I'll tell ya. That Ward sure looks washed up at 31 yrs old. He will never be the same from the layoff. He will probably forget how to box at an elite level.

Sincerely,

BOXREC The last 3 yrs.

[SFW]

Looking forward to watching Ward embarass Kovalev, the tears of denial will run thick with a few of the guys in here but it's for their own growth

[tigermoth87]

Either you are with Krusher or you are against him. There is nothing more to see. It won't matter ward is gonna weasel out of this one anyway.

I'm surprised so many people think the fight is going to take place. Ward wormed out of fighting Bute, no way is he going to risk Krusher shattering his jaw into a million pieces. He'll pull out of the fight citing some "injury" and sit on the sidelines for a year until everybody has forgetten about it.

[Bard of Boxrec]

I disagree about the pop. That was a good performance, but the pop wasn't enough to disturb Barrera. When the KD happened, he was just caught off balance. Of course, Ward could drop Kova who loses balance a lot the same way, but this kind of pop will not be enough to keep Sergey off Andre.

aggree

like i said in my other thread, bulldozers like bert, adonis and kovalev go through ward and break him appart.

you could see at times ward having problems with the bigger barrera and barrera is a weak lh, look a his ko ratio, he rarely knocks somebody out. with the top light heavyweights it will be a totaly different ball game. but! they have to play their game and not wards game. this is what maidana or castillo did right against floyd, they did what they wanted to do, they didnt play floyds waiting strategy game.

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Not apprehensive at all. Ward still has no chance vs kovalev.

[keirw]

I think that beyond Kovalev, Beterbiev, Ward and possibly Stevenson, there is a wide grey area where both Fonfara and Barrera belong.

Yeah, I'd put Braemer, Cleverly, Chillemba and Pascal in the same grey area.
A lot of good second tier fights that could get made in the division.

[diddy]

aggree

like i said in my other thread, bulldozers like bert, adonis and kovalev go through ward and break him appart.

you could see at times ward having problems with the bigger barrera and barrera is a weak lh, look a his ko ratio, he rarely knocks somebody out. with the top light heavyweights it will be a totaly different ball game. but! they have to play their game and not wards game. this is what maidana or castillo did right against floyd, they did what they wanted to do, they didnt play floyds waiting strategy game.

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Not apprehensive at all. Ward still has no chance vs kovalev.

Do you know what the term "no chance" actually entails and do you also realize that Ward opened as the betting favorite against Kovalev before he even fought at 175?

No chance, your ass. Obviously it's an amazing fight but to say neither one of these great fighters has "no chance" against anyone is just silly.

[victor-romeo]

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Not apprehensive at all. Ward still has no chance vs kovalev.

Do you know what the term "no chance" actually entails and do you also realize that Ward opened as the betting favorite against Kovalev before he even fought at 175?

No chance, your ass. Obviously it's an amazing fight but to say neither one of these great fighters has "no chance" against anyone is just silly.

I would make Ward a slight betting favorite over Kovalev after Wards excellent performance tonight. That said Kovalev is one of my favorite fighters of all time and I will be pulling for him . Kovalev has an excellent chance of beating Ward in a classic fight. Ward didn't seem very happy in there tonight, maybe he was focused but the guy didn't exhibit much joy he looked burdened.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Krusher is one of my favorites but he does not have a granite chin. He can be clipped at an odd angle and find himself canvass-side, which would affect his offense. I'm not favoring Ward, but it is far from a foregone conclusion. I think that Ward is to be reckoned with.

His haters can howl but they are all apprehensive about what he might do to their favorites.

Not apprehensive at all. Ward still has no chance vs kovalev.

Do you know what the term "no chance" actually entails and do you also realize that Ward opened as the betting favorite against Kovalev before he even fought at 175?

No chance, your ass. Obviously it's an amazing fight but to say neither one of these great fighters has "no chance" against anyone is just silly.

Alright then, little chance. It's semantics. I just feel the style matchup couldn't be worse for ward. I've explained in many, many threads why I don't see a single way ward can win when you assess how they each fight and what each of their styles means for the other.

[Pureist]

Ward was hit quite a lot in that fight by a boxer that has nothing on kovalev, the fight won't eventuate

[handsofstone]

Awful fight,credit to Ward i had him winning a landslide 119-108 but it was boring as hell,mainly because he was a lot better than Barrera but was only shading most rounds,it was all about Andre's left hand,mainly the hooks and sometimes jabs,someone should tell him you can throw the right hand though,dissapointed in Barrera he was pretty unimaginative

Good undercard though

[Boxerbeetle]

I believe that Ward has the style to beat Kovalev. Not saying he definitely will, but it's a 50-50 fight in my eyes.

[tiny_acres]

I believe that Ward has the style to beat Kovalev. Not saying he definitely will, but it's a 50-50 fight in my eyes.

I slightly lean toward Kovalev. But not by much.
I think this could be quite competitive

[ikorolev]

I believe that Ward has the style to beat Kovalev. Not saying he definitely will, but it's a 50-50 fight in my eyes.

He has a style, but doesn't have a chin or body. Barrera's body shots clearly troubled him at times. Wait to see what Kova's jabs to the body will do.

[Tanzio]

I believe that Ward has the style to beat Kovalev. Not saying he definitely will, but it's a 50-50 fight in my eyes.

He has a style, but doesn't have a chin or body. Barrera's body shots clearly troubled him at times. Wait to see what Kova's jabs to the body will do.

Did you notice Ward's jab to Barrera's midsection? How will Krusher's body hold up to that?

I think that there are just as many questions about Krusher's chin and body as there are about Ward's.

[palooka]

Ward v Kovalev will be very interesting, Barerra was pretty skilled and a strong and powerful fighter. I think in 6 to 9 months Ward will be more comfortable at the weight and put on a good show v Krusher.