Chris Eubank v Teddy Atlas - a class apart

[veriton]

First off, I hope Nick Blackwell makes a full recovery after last night's war.

But I do want to highlight the difference in style of corner work between Chris Eubank and Teddy Atlas, in two of the most memorable bits of btween rounds advice since angelo dundee shouted "you're blowing it" during leonard v hearns.

While Atlas was loud with Bradley, making wild statements about firemen (that seemed to have been thought out beforehand or he really is a madman) Eubank was the elder statesman, the kind father urging his son to show mercy in the heat of battle.

Atlas was all about Atlas, Eubank was about compassion when Blackwell wouldnt quit despite being hammered from pillar to post. He showed what the heart of this game is all about - the respect and sportsmanship that sets it apart from all others.

If you need to see the difference between boxing and MMA then just listen to what Chris was saying....MMA thrives on kicking and punching people on the floor, chokeholds from behind and quitting through the tapout.

Blackwell wouldnt surrender, and Eubank saw what was happening and showed some real humanity in there.

It's easy to think of Eubank as a bit of a tit, I have done in the past despite admiring him as a boxer. But that last night showed what an absolute class act he is and an example to everyone in boxing.

Other people - including many who were ringside at the fight - would do well to follow his lead.

[Stuarty]

Are you referring to Eubank Snr telling Jnr to go to the body? That was class.

[expe]

A class apart is absolutely true, Atlas is a bellend but Eubank takes it to a completely different level.

[Stuarty]

A class apart is absolutely true, Atlas is a bellend but Eubank takes it to a completely different level.

Eubank is at the very least interesting and can back his stories up. Atlas is a Walter Mitty type of character.

[expe]

A class apart is absolutely true, Atlas is a bellend but Eubank takes it to a completely different level.

Eubank is at the very least interesting and can back his stories up. Atlas is a Walter Mitty type of character.

He is interesting in his eccentric way, although if that's a bloke off the estate he's the local nutjob/fornicating weirdo rather than eccentric, but it doesn't mean that he isn't a knob.

[SNG]

Of all the people in boxing Eubank is one who truly knows what boxing can do to a fighter.

[Stuarty]

A class apart is absolutely true, Atlas is a bellend but Eubank takes it to a completely different level.

Eubank is at the very least interesting and can back his stories up. Atlas is a Walter Mitty type of character.

He is interesting in his eccentric way, although if that's a bloke off the estate he's the local nutjob/effing weirdo rather than eccentric, but it doesn't mean that he isn't a knob.

all estates have that bloke

[Monte Fisto]

when all is said and done, Eubank Sr is a legend and a class act.

[Boxerbeetle]

when all is said and done, Eubank Sr is a legend and a class act.

x2

[ThereByTheGrace]

Of all the people in boxing Eubank is one who truly knows what boxing can do to a fighter.

Fully agree, a less experienced coach may have given advice with far worse results. Eubank was excellent last night

[cutsman]

Are you referring to Eubank Snr telling Jnr to go to the body? That was class.

Was it Eubank Snr showing compassion? At the time I thought he could see that Jnr was landing punishing head shots, but wasn't targeting the body that much and was simply pointing that out

[Counter-puncher]

Are you referring to Eubank Snr telling Jnr to go to the body? That was class.

Was it Eubank Snr showing compassion? At the time I thought he could see that Jnr was landing punishing head shots, but wasn't targeting the body that much and was simply pointing that out

Thats what I thought

[Stuarty]

Are you referring to Eubank Snr telling Jnr to go to the body? That was class.

Was it Eubank Snr showing compassion? At the time I thought he could see that Jnr was landing punishing head shots, but wasn't targeting the body that much and was simply pointing that out

Maybe you're right. I was just saying what I thought at the time and I thought it fit in to the original post. I would need to see it again. In hindsight it does seem a bit too thoughtful for a boxing match...

[Taansend]

Of all the people in boxing Eubank is one who truly knows what boxing can do to a fighter.

I truly believe that if the Watson tragedy hadn't happened Eubank would have been one of the best British fighters of all time.

He just want the same afterwards.

[chiggsy]

Are you referring to Eubank Snr telling Jnr to go to the body? That was class.

Was it Eubank Snr showing compassion? At the time I thought he could see that Jnr was landing punishing head shots, but wasn't targeting the body that much and was simply pointing that out

Thats what I thought

Same here,i think chris is getting undue praise because what he said and what he actually meant has been misinterpreted by the media.

He will of course love the attention and will make out that he was considering blackwells health when telling jnr to go to the body.

[broomy7s]

Glad i'm not the only 1 who thinks that all this praise is bollox.

[tobyh5]

Hang on a minute, he actually said: "Maybe you shouldn't leave it to the referee but you will not take him out to the face, you will take him out to the body."

He was just talking a load of old tosh that the fight should have been stopped and if the ref was not going to do it, junior would have to by taking him out and the point he was making was that the knockout would not come with a head-shot as Blackwell was too tough and too strong in the chin, but anyone can go with a body shot.

I did not know there had been any praise for Snr over this, what a complete effing load of shite and misinterpretation of his intent. Don't tell me he is making out that he was saying it to protect Blackwell?

If that was his meaning, I want to hear him explain that quoted section of his wording as it cannot at all possible fit in with it at all.

If he really thought Blackwell was in real danger, then he is a total pudendum deserving no praise as he let his son continue to hit him and a life is worth a lot more than a boxing win and title. So I would reverse it. Had he truly believed the other guy was in that much danger, he should have stopped the fight. Afterall, I have heard him say if he could do it again, he would not throw the uppercut that caught Michael Watson.

[crusader]

Ya, I didnt at all get the impression that his instructions were given out of concern for Blackwell.

Kind of odd that he's getting praised for this.

[tobyh5]

Furthermore, Snr said that if the ref would not stop it not only would he hurt him but it would go to a decision then shrugged. Then meaning is clear, a chance of being robbed so they had to end the fight, so he then said the whole "if the ref wont stop it, you will have to".

[palooka]

Of all the people in boxing Eubank is one who truly knows what boxing can do to a fighter.

I agree and it is telling that Eubank Snr notes Jnr's uppercuts as being particularly vicious, it was of course his own right uppercut that caused the damage to Michael Watson.

[tobyh5]

Of all the people in boxing Eubank is one who truly knows what boxing can do to a fighter.

I agree and it is telling that Eubank Snr notes Jnr's uppercuts as being particularly vicious, it was of course his own right uppercut that caused the damage to Michael Watson.

Which makes that he allowed his son to continue, IF he actually did feel Blackwell was in such huge danger, even more deplorable.

[palooka]

I imagine that Eubank Snr wasn't that thrilled when he son chose to box. The shoe could well be on the other foot in another bout and it could be Jnr who is battered and badly hurt, the only way to be 100% safe in boxing is not to box. Eubank Snr is not a highly compassionate man, he is a pragmatist, the meaning I took from his audible comments were that Blackwell could take head punches all day without going down and he may be weaker to the body.

[Boxerbeetle]

The only praise I've seen is from idiots on Facebook who are widely sharing the quote but wouldn't realise that switching attack from head to body can be a legitimate tactical decision, it's not done to 'protect' the opponent ffs.

[tobyh5]

I imagine that Eubank Snr wasn't that thrilled when he son chose to box. The shoe could well be on the other foot in another bout and it could be Jnr who is battered and badly hurt, the only way to be 100% safe in boxing is not to box. Eubank Snr is not a highly compassionate man, he is a pragmatist, the meaning I took from his audible comments were that Blackwell could take head punches all day without going down and he may be weaker to the body.

I agree. I have re-listened to this a dozen times now and have recorded it on to my phone and am going to play it to mates as there is no ways on gods green earth that he was telling him to not hit the head as he thought he was hurt. No efffing bloody way, that does not fit what was said at all. If he bloody meant that, he would have said that and he didn't. FFS!!!!

[pimp]

The impression I got hearing Eubank snr tell jnr was that Blackwell was to brave for his own good and he will standing all night and maybe take him out to the body instead of head hunting, don't think he was in any way concerned for Blackwell in the heat of the battle.