A shining example therelittlepug wrote:Edwin Valero
Are there any examples of a pro returning to the ring after a brain injury incurred in the ring?
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Old bones Ian
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John Lowey was the boxer I was thinking of, failed a medical here in 1991, think it was a possible cyst as the problem. He then tried to get his license back but failed. So went to America and made a comeback fighting and losing in title bouts against Kennedy McKinney and Eric Morales.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/6442
http://boxrec.com/boxer/6442
Re: Are there any examples of a pro returning to the ring after a brain injury incurred in the ring?
Yes, I mean before that. Does he have a trade or other vocational skills?Stuarty30 wrote:Was he not on the unlicensed circuit for a while? Don't know if it was bare knuckle or that. Something rings a bell but can't remember the specifics.Sklar wrote:What did Blackwell do before he started fighting?
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Ahh apologiesSklar wrote:Yes, I mean before that. Does he have a trade or other vocational skills?Stuarty30 wrote:Was he not on the unlicensed circuit for a while? Don't know if it was bare knuckle or that. Something rings a bell but can't remember the specifics.Sklar wrote:What did Blackwell do before he started fighting?
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Not in this country but Jermain Taylor actually suffered a minor subdural haematoma against Arthur Abraham, was eventually relicensed to box on and won the IBF middleweight title.
After that things went tits up pretty seriously.
After that things went tits up pretty seriously.
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rpms
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Possibly the end of his Brother Dan's career too,can't imagine him carrying on after this.
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ClivePatrickLyons
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Cholo_cws wrote:There was the Filipino guy that Katsidis fought several years ago. Can't recall his name. Csar something I think.
Czar Amonsot was his name and he is world rated by some today........ I recently watched Ali fight Holmes and it was criminal
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PredatorHayds
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Luckily fighting on didn't seem to effect his mental healthJunker wrote:Not in this country but Jermain Taylor actually suffered a minor subdural haematoma against Arthur Abraham, was eventually relicensed to box on and won the IBF middleweight title.
After that things went tits up pretty seriously.
Whoever licensed Taylor after Abraham should be ashamed of themselves.
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i know his brother dan is a bricklayer so nick might have some experience in brickwork but yeah he does seem like a clued up person so god bless and good luck in what ever he choses to doStuarty30 wrote:Ahh apologiesSklar wrote:Yes, I mean before that. Does he have a trade or other vocational skills?Stuarty30 wrote:
Was he not on the unlicensed circuit for a while? Don't know if it was bare knuckle or that. Something rings a bell but can't remember the specifics.Not sure about that but he's young an seems a bright enough boy so I'm sure he could do anything he wanted.
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His brother Dan is a journeyman isn't he?Oiky wrote:i know his brother dan is a bricklayer so nick might have some experience in brickwork but yeah he does seem like a clued up person so god bless and good luck in what ever he choses to doStuarty30 wrote:Ahh apologiesSklar wrote:
Yes, I mean before that. Does he have a trade or other vocational skills?Not sure about that but he's young an seems a bright enough boy so I'm sure he could do anything he wanted.
Re: Are there any examples of a pro returning to the ring after a brain injury incurred in the ring?
Joe Mesi suffered a brain bleed in his fight with Jirov, he wanted to continue with his career and was in search of a state that would give him a license (most had rightly banned him) He then suffered another brain bleed while moving some heavy furniture and sensibly he decided against returning to the ring. (NB: he didn't get whacked on the head, just the strain of lifting caused the injury to bleed again)
Once your brain/skull is damaged in ANY way, it's insanity to consider fighting again.
Once your brain/skull is damaged in ANY way, it's insanity to consider fighting again.
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Boxing Writer
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Re: Are there any examples of a pro returning to the ring after a brain injury incurred in the ring?
Joe Mesi, Czar Amonsot and Jermain Taylor all returned to the ring after brain bleeding. Interesting that none of them lost since suffering their brain injuries: Mesi is 7-0 since Jirov fight, Amonsot is 13-0-2 since Katsidis fight and Taylor is 5-0 since Abraham fight. Taylor is also the first boxer to win major world title after suffering serious brain injury.
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yeah he boxes, but is also a bricklayerStuarty30 wrote:His brother Dan is a journeyman isn't he?Oiky wrote:i know his brother dan is a bricklayer so nick might have some experience in brickwork but yeah he does seem like a clued up person so god bless and good luck in what ever he choses to doStuarty30 wrote:
Ahh apologiesNot sure about that but he's young an seems a bright enough boy so I'm sure he could do anything he wanted.
come to think of it, i think i remember reading somewhere that at 18 before he turned pro he had a bricklaying apprenticeship himself
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Didn't Taylor begin to behave impulsively and violently after his injury?Boxing Writer wrote:Joe Mesi, Czar Amonsot and Jermain Taylor all returned to the ring after brain bleeding. Interesting that none of them lost since suffering their brain injuries: Mesi is 7-0 since Jirov fight, Amonsot is 13-0-2 since Katsidis fight and Taylor is 5-0 since Abraham fight. Taylor is also the first boxer to win major world title after suffering serious brain injury.
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He pleaded guilty last year to 9 charges. Pretty mad stuff, firearms, threatening women and children etc. I think sentencing is in April. There were reports he could get as much as 50 years.
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If I were looking at 50 years I'd jump off a bridge.Junker wrote:He pleaded guilty last year to 9 charges. Pretty mad stuff, firearms, threatening women and children etc. I think sentencing is in April. There were reports he could get as much as 50 years.
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Hopefully we wont have to worry about whether he gets a license or not
because when he makes a full recovery, he realises it isn't worth the risk and does something else with his life.
because when he makes a full recovery, he realises it isn't worth the risk and does something else with his life.
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I think that Oscar Larios had suffered one before he fought Manny.
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Stuarty30 wrote:His brother Dan is a journeyman isn't he?Oiky wrote:i know his brother dan is a bricklayer so nick might have some experience in brickwork but yeah he does seem like a clued up person so god bless and good luck in what ever he choses to doStuarty30 wrote:
Ahh apologiesNot sure about that but he's young an seems a bright enough boy so I'm sure he could do anything he wanted.
61 fights at 23 years old thats going some to be fair and Ive never heard of him before.
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Yeah he must love a scrap! I'd only heard of him because he was meant to fight my mate before he packed it in. He ended up fighting Kris Carslaw a couple years back too.Rexob wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:His brother Dan is a journeyman isn't he?Oiky wrote: i know his brother dan is a bricklayer so nick might have some experience in brickwork but yeah he does seem like a clued up person so god bless and good luck in what ever he choses to do
61 fights at 23 years old thats going some to be fair and Ive never heard of him before.
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ttornado
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Jermain Taylor
An MRI revealed the reason Taylor's short-term memory was misfiring: a minor subdural hematoma, or brain bleed, the primary cause of death in boxing. Taylor's case wasn't fatal, but the doctors gave him what felt like its own kind of death sentence. "They said with the type of concussion I had, you can never fight again -- ever," he says.
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jamesmcdonnell
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There's some evidence to suggest that repeated concussions cause not only brain injuries, but changes in brain function. There's been a lot of high profile cases in the U.S of American footballers who develop wild mood swings and violent outbursts.Junker wrote:He pleaded guilty last year to 9 charges. Pretty mad stuff, firearms, threatening women and children etc. I think sentencing is in April. There were reports he could get as much as 50 years.
Taylor certainly didn't seem like a violent thug earlier in his career. Though of course, I don't have an intimate knowledge of him.
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definitely loves a scrapStuarty30 wrote:Yeah he must love a scrap! I'd only heard of him because he was meant to fight my mate before he packed it in. He ended up fighting Kris Carslaw a couple years back too.Rexob wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:
His brother Dan is a journeyman isn't he?
61 fights at 23 years old thats going some to be fair and Ive never heard of him before.
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Tuan_Jim
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Re: Are there any examples of a pro returning to the ring after a brain injury incurred in the ring?
Kid Akeem is the most infamous and horrifying example of this. Happened in Africa, naturally.