How do you beat Ward's style?

caldo2025
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Ward has a beard against one of the worst divisions in boxing, the Super Middleweight Division. Big Deal. He's never seen anything like Kovalev and that's why Ward is begging for as many tune ups as he can get. At this rate, Ward should be ready by 2024. lol. You can't beat Kovalev without a right hand. That short left Ward throws is a nice punch but you can't win a fight against a complete boxer like Kovalev. If Barrera can bust up Ward's face and land that slow jab, he better get some insurance out prior to his fight with the Krusher. I'll bet you what ever you want bro. You say it and i'll match. For real.
Loser (YOU) leave the forum, deal?? Never to return again under no circumstances, name change and all.

Deal??
I actually love that bet. The only problem is that i don't trust you to honor it as i'm sure you've been like 10 different personalities after getting kicked out a million times. Plus being a part of this site seems way more important to you than it does me.

But sure, let's do it. But there's a better chance that Ward loses one if his many tune up fights than him actually getting the in the same ring as Kovalev. You're on dipshit.
koolkc107
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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Don't know how anyone can watch Ward completely own a guy with over 300 amateur fights and think things are going to be easy for Kovalev.

And Caldo, I have to congratulate you for some of the best trolling I have seen in some time.

Floyd ran? Floyd held?

Where?

The points come off for EXCESSIVE holding, not tying up a guy in the regular course of a fight. Tying up a guy can prevent your opponent from butting you or otherwise using his head, from throwing illegal blows like rabbit punches or kidney punches.

That's why it is taught in every gym there is worth mentioning.

And yes, it can be a tactic.

I have said it before and I know I will again.

It is easy for us as fans to say what we think is illegal.

The problem is that the guy who should be complaining the most or even filing protests- the opponent- doesn't.

If a fighter is committing a foul over and over again, it is on him and his corner to protest, and do so vehemently if it is that huge of a transgression.

Never see that at Floyd's fights. Because what he does is neither blatant nor excessive.

The fight with Pac there were a total of 25 instances the fighters needed to be separated and at least a couple of those instances the clinch was initiated by Pac, not Floyd.

In case you were not counting, that means Floyd averaged less than 2 holds per round.
Pureist
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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Funny how you ignored my post about floyds 36 clinches in 5 rounds, you say clinching can avoid rabbit punches, head butts etc, you didn't mention it also stops the opponent landing legal blows I see but that would not fit you agenda hey tooli-----------------Recently retired world class referee Richard Steele concurs. "You take points away when the fighter is affecting the fight and has stopped the other fighter from staying busy and not doing anything himself. He's committing a foul - which is too much holding."

And how much is too much?

"It's too much when there's no action, when nothing is going on other than holding - then it's a foul. If the fighter's tactic is holding, it's a foul. He's there as a professional fighter and it's his job to fight. And holding is not fighting. If he's not hurt and he's holding just to hold, as a tactic, then the referee has to penalize him. He's not doing what he's being paid to do. He's not giving the fans their money's worth," Steele said.-------------- you should argue the point with Richard Steele who confirms that if it's a tactic then it's a foul, case closed
scallum2015
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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He didn't look that impressive to me . Sergey will be serious problems
Badhusker
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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Pureist, Caldo,

You two have to let your love affair with Floyd go. He's retired man....time to move on. Its like you guys can't make a post without mentioning his name. Pick out a new guy to love/hate, like Ward, Spence, Broner, Wilder, Andrade, Charlo brothers, etc. Any American will do.
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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If you didn't notice husker, I was replying to your cousin toolis post, I didn't bring him up, your cousin did
Undefeated49-0
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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caldo2025 wrote:I actually love that bet. The only problem is that i don't trust you to honor it as i'm sure you've been like 10 different personalities after getting kicked out a million times. Plus being a part of this site seems way more important to you than it does me.

But sure, let's do it. But there's a better chance that Ward loses one if his many tune up fights than him actually getting the in the same ring as Kovalev. You're on dipshit.
You don't trust it because you are a cowardly b*tch who's afraid and knows that you have no confidence in Kovalev's abilities to beat Ward.

I only came back with one account, I got banned for BS crybabies like you and Little Vicky and a few other punks who dish it out but get owned and cannot take it when i clap back but that's history.

The bet is on p*ssy. Unlike you, I have far better and more constructive things to do with my life so I don't need BoxRec to try and convince people that this fighter is nothing like you try to pull off daily with your Trolling @$$.
caldo2025
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I actually love that bet. The only problem is that i don't trust you to honor it as i'm sure you've been like 10 different personalities after getting kicked out a million times. Plus being a part of this site seems way more important to you than it does me.

But sure, let's do it. But there's a better chance that Ward loses one if his many tune up fights than him actually getting the in the same ring as Kovalev. You're on dipshit.
You don't trust it because you are a cowardly b*tch who's afraid and knows that you have no confidence in Kovalev's abilities to beat Ward.

I only came back with one account, I got banned for BS crybabies like you and Little Vicky and a few other punks who dish it out but get owned and cannot take it when i clap back but that's history.

The bet is on p*ssy. Unlike you, I have far better and more constructive things to do with my life so I don't need BoxRec to try and convince people that this fighter is nothing like you try to pull off daily with your Trolling @$$.
Dude, you need to call CVS and see if that script is finally ready man. You're supposed to take that shiit every day so you don't run out at the end of the month and turn into a homicidal imbecile. You need to settle down a little partner, it's just boxing. Floyd doesn't even know or care who you are. I know that's tough to hear but it had to be said.

But I will say, you must have some infatuation with boring boxers like Ward and Floyd. Oh wait a minute, maybe it's all that manhugging they do in the ring. You like that D on D action don't you? That's it! I finally figured it out. I"m not judging man, i support LGBT and equal rights for all. I don't swing that way so don't take it the wrong way, I just support it.

Besides, this fight is never going to happen. Ward is waiting until Kovalev gets out of his prime and starts showing some age first and by that time, you will already have been banned off this site another 6 times. But yeah, contact me when it's legit and we'll bet. Betting on Santa Claus vs the Tooth Fairy would be more plausible than this fight though.
cash718
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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Either skilled pressure to get on the inside and then you need superior in fighting skills.

Or you need to be able to control the distance better than he does, either with a jab or quick feet and good timing.

Kovalev's best chance is thee latter. The most important weapon for him will be his jab and whether he can make Ward uncomfortable on the outside and force Ward to try to win the fight on the inside. I think Ward is a way better in fighter and would make Kovalev look harmless and silly in spots but there will be way more chances for Kovalev to land a decent punch. Even if Kovalev lands a right hand at 60% it's going to be interesting to see how Ward takes it.
Undefeated49-0
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

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caldo2025 wrote:Dude, you need to call CVS and see if that script is finally ready man. You're supposed to take that shiit every day so you don't run out at the end of the month and turn into a homicidal imbecile. You need to settle down a little partner, it's just boxing. Floyd doesn't even know or care who you are. I know that's tough to hear but it had to be said.

But I will say, you must have some infatuation with boring boxers like Ward and Floyd. Oh wait a minute, maybe it's all that manhugging they do in the ring. You like that D on D action don't you? That's it! I finally figured it out. I"m not judging man, i support LGBT and equal rights for all. I don't swing that way so don't take it the wrong way, I just support it.

Besides, this fight is never going to happen. Ward is waiting until Kovalev gets out of his prime and starts showing some age first and by that time, you will already have been banned off this site another 6 times. But yeah, contact me when it's legit and we'll bet. Betting on Santa Claus vs the Tooth Fairy would be more plausible than this fight though.
Wow, it's always amazes me when someone throws out some g@y sh*t hiding in the recesses of their mind and then tries to make it like someone else is the one who's g@y.

Keep your homophobic thoughts to yourself.
jamesmcdonnell
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Evander wrote:If it were a perfect world Ward would buy 5 months to heal proper and go straight into a Kovalev fight in November and be done with it.
Anything in between may f__k things up.
We don't get many opportunities to big up our elite and this is a massive fight .
I agree, this is a huge fight.

I don't get why so many people are convinced Ward doesn't want the fight, Ward's never appeared the slightest bit concerned about facing anyone. He had a period of terrible inactivity and some poor comeback fights, but I've seen no indication he doesn't want the fight with Kovalev.

I think it will be a close fight. I think Kovalev is good enough that Ward won't be able to shut him down and nullify him, and it will force Ward to work hard.

It could go either way.

It's a great fight for boxing whoever wins.
thunderfromdownunder
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

Post by thunderfromdownunder »

Is this fight confirmed?
I really like it on paper. Each guy will be the best the other has faced. Boxing needs more of it.


On current form, I'd lean towards Kovalev, but it's a pickem
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Re: How do you beat Ward's style?

Post by Evander »

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Evander wrote:If it were a perfect world Ward would buy 5 months to heal proper and go straight into a Kovalev fight in November and be done with it.
Anything in between may f__k things up.
We don't get many opportunities to big up our elite and this is a massive fight .
I agree, this is a huge fight.

I don't get why so many people are convinced Ward doesn't want the fight, Ward's never appeared the slightest bit concerned about facing anyone. He had a period of terrible inactivity and some poor comeback fights, but I've seen no indication he doesn't want the fight with Kovalev.

I think it will be a close fight. I think Kovalev is good enough that Ward won't be able to shut him down and nullify him, and it will force Ward to work hard.

It could go either way.

It's a great fight for boxing whoever wins.
Part of the hype just roll with it, the fight sells itself.
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