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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Tyson fury picks martin to wipe the floor with Joshua

The king of boxing has spoken to his people
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SFW wrote:AJ had an injured Whyte in front of him, got extended further than ever ( first opponent with even the slightest pulse) got hurt for the first time, and showed he has no idea how to pace himself. What Whyte could have done healthy in that fight is a good question.

All those muscles, your damn right AJ is worried about 12 rounds. There's a seat for him next to Fraudley and Price on the Wank Wagon if he isn't ready for 12 hard rounds. Hopefully we'll get to see that against Martin. It would boost confidence all around for Joshua and us.

Both of these guys are big and dangerous, only a fool would think otherwise.
What's with the hate for Price and Harrison? Sure their pro careers went badly, but that doesn't seem like any reason to hate them.They both came across as okay guys to me.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Starboxer wrote:Tyson fury picks martin to wipe the floor with Joshua

The king of boxing has spoken to his people
Fury has an agenda. You know who doesnt? The oddsmakers.

Joshua is -600.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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diddy wrote:
Starboxer wrote:Tyson fury picks martin to wipe the floor with Joshua

The king of boxing has spoken to his people
Fury has an agenda. You know who doesnt? The oddsmakers.

Joshua is -600.
Well, they do have an agenda, that agenda is not losing a fortune.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Tarkus wrote:
diddy wrote:This Starboxer seems have an agenda out for Joshua. As a completely unbiased observor I'd call him the most dangerous guy in the entire division. Seems to have concussive power.
Concussive power plus very solid fundamentals, size and speed. He is extremely dangerous HW. Perhaps not on the level of Fury just yet, because Fury is an elite technician. But Martin? Please give me a break.
An elite technician Fury is not. I'd say Joshua has far better fundamentals. Fury's greatest asset is that he is quite mobile for a man of his size, and loose limbed, which makes him an unusual opponent. However, Joshua's punches are delivered far better and with much better balance. Joshua's size would make Fury very Wary indeed, he'd be in or close to the danger Zone whenever he was in front of Joshua, and Anthony isn't a reluctant dragon like Wlad, who requires people to stand stock still in front of him.

I'd make Fury only a slight favourite if they met tomorrow, and that's because of Fury's proven stamina and fight experience, but I think Joshua would be capable of flattening him before it got to the point where that experience told.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Starboxer wrote:
diddy wrote:Martin doesnt strike me as being any better than Whyte. If those 2 were to fight I would call it a pick em fight.

Whyte leads with his face , Martin has a higher fight iq
Didn't Whyte also have a 2 or 3 yr layoff? Martin is no joke, a decently skilled southpaw, with power in both hands. I think THIS is a pick-em fight.
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It's not just his speed, one of his biggest assets is making his opponents turn.

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Also, much of what success Whyte got was from beating AJ to the jab, something the much larger and fitter Fury would find easier, and this is before looking at his stance switching.

Edit: Fury's upper body movement is also pretty good
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SNG wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:I will be rooting for Martin simply because he has decided to test himself and not go down the easy route of taking on stiffs, but I doubt he will win.
Why does that make you support Martin over Joshua?
Just because of his willingness to fight a top level opponent in his first defense of his belt. That along his goofy personality.
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Good posts in this thread
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Joshua is going to get mugged on Saturday if he is not careful
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Tyson fury is the king of warriors

Martin and Joshua can squabble over the chance to meet the king of boxing and all of martial arts
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Baby Face Finster wrote:
SNG wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:I will be rooting for Martin simply because he has decided to test himself and not go down the easy route of taking on stiffs, but I doubt he will win.
Why does that make you support Martin over Joshua?
Just because of his willingness to fight a top level opponent in his first defense of his belt. That along his goofy personality.
He's not going to be regarded as such by half on here if he wins, he'll be untested/green/no chin etc Joshua needs plaudits too for taking on Martin in his fifteenth fight, though they've picked him for a reason, they expect Martin to get knocked over.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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So what about tactics for this fight?

I think AJ will try and get close and bomb him out of there from round one, and he'd be better ending it sooner, Martin has way more later round experience. and I'm not convinced he'd be able to win fighting slower.
I don't know much about how Martin fights, but my rather ill informed opinion of what he should try is stay on his toes, and at range, mostly jabbing and not quite allowing him to rest until he's tired, say around round 8. Edit: He should probably try and get some decent body shots in mind you, I think that's a big part of what gassed him.

What do you guys think?
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BitPlayer wrote:
SFW wrote:AJ had an injured Whyte in front of him, got extended further than ever ( first opponent with even the slightest pulse) got hurt for the first time, and showed he has no idea how to pace himself. What Whyte could have done healthy in that fight is a good question.

All those muscles, your damn right AJ is worried about 12 rounds. There's a seat for him next to Fraudley and Price on the Wank Wagon if he isn't ready for 12 hard rounds. Hopefully we'll get to see that against Martin. It would boost confidence all around for Joshua and us.

Both of these guys are big and dangerous, only a fool would think otherwise.
What's with the hate for Price and Harrison? Sure their pro careers went badly, but that doesn't seem like any reason to hate them.They both came across as okay guys to me.
your right, that was harsh. I'm sure their decent guys, just didn't live up to the hype. Hopefully Joshua succeeds where they failed.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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BitPlayer wrote:So what about tactics for this fight?

I think AJ will try and get close and bomb him out of there from round one, and he'd be better ending it sooner, Martin has way more later round experience. and I'm not convinced he'd be able to win fighting slower.
I don't know much about how Martin fights, but my rather ill informed opinion of what he should try is stay on his toes, and at range, mostly jabbing and not quite allowing him to rest until he's tired, say around round 8. Edit: He should probably try and get some decent body shots in mind you, I think that's a big part of what gassed him.

What do you guys think?
Martin can not box with Joshua. he might have a chance if he puts everything on the line and tries to take Joshua out early, he does have power and size.
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BitPlayer wrote:So what about tactics for this fight?

I think AJ will try and get close and bomb him out of there from round one, and he'd be better ending it sooner, Martin has way more later round experience. and I'm not convinced he'd be able to win fighting slower.
I don't know much about how Martin fights, but my rather ill informed opinion of what he should try is stay on his toes, and at range, mostly jabbing and not quite allowing him to rest until he's tired, say around round 8. Edit: He should probably try and get some decent body shots in mind you, I think that's a big part of what gassed him.

What do you guys think?
I think both boxers will try to box box box first couple of rounds before testing reach others chin.

But neither fighter has faced anyone with the potential of the other. So many unknown quantities in this fight which I love. No idea of the outcome.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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SFW wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
SFW wrote:AJ had an injured Whyte in front of him, got extended further than ever ( first opponent with even the slightest pulse) got hurt for the first time, and showed he has no idea how to pace himself. What Whyte could have done healthy in that fight is a good question.

All those muscles, your damn right AJ is worried about 12 rounds. There's a seat for him next to Fraudley and Price on the Wank Wagon if he isn't ready for 12 hard rounds. Hopefully we'll get to see that against Martin. It would boost confidence all around for Joshua and us.

Both of these guys are big and dangerous, only a fool would think otherwise.
What's with the hate for Price and Harrison? Sure their pro careers went badly, but that doesn't seem like any reason to hate them.They both came across as okay guys to me.
your right, that was harsh. I'm sure their decent guys, just didn't live up to the hype. Hopefully Joshua succeeds where they failed.
I'm not a fan of Price really, but think at least 2 of the 3 KO losses should be erased, due to his opponents failing drug tests. They should at least be NC, and not losses.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Tarkus

You are right Joshua is a far superior boxer
Martin is looking to take the fight in to the late rounds , sure Martin will be looking for an early ko he has the power but his game plan will be to clinch in close lean on Joshua and slowly wear him down

Joshua will win the first 5 rounds in my view but if martin is smarter than whyte and I am sure he is he will have taken minimal damage and. By round 6 or 7 Joshua will be gassing

Martin has to be clever it would take someone very special like George foreman to trade with monster like Joshua
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Starboxer wrote:Tarkus
Martin will be looking for an early ko he has the power but his game plan will be to clinch in close lean on Joshua and slowly wear him down

I don't think martin is significantly stronger or bigger than Joshua if at all so i don't think clinching necessarily in martin's favour.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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diddy wrote:
Starboxer wrote:Tyson fury picks martin to wipe the floor with Joshua

The king of boxing has spoken to his people
Fury has an agenda. You know who doesnt? The oddsmakers.

Joshua is -600.
A lot of big names are saying martin could win this fight and a lot of fans , I am hoping to take the bookies to the cleaner s
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Counter-puncher wrote:
Starboxer wrote:Tarkus
Martin will be looking for an early ko he has the power but his game plan will be to clinch in close lean on Joshua and slowly wear him down

I don't think martin is significantly stronger or bigger than Joshua if at all so i don't think clinching necessarily in martin's favour.
Martin has a three Option s in close

trade and go toe to toe

Run

Or clinch


With the right technique clinching wears a fighter down especially someone built like Joshua

If Martin trades he will be destroyed
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And still.
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Its a interesting fight

Joshua is like Nigel benn before he was proven , a massive draw that got drowned
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Re: Charles Martin v Anthony Joshua

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Who do people think Starboxer is? It's obviously some kid on a wind up :D

I guarantee he/she has at least one other username on this board....... :TU:
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Taansend wrote:Who do people think Starboxer is? It's obviously some kid on a wind up :D

I guarantee he/she has at least one other username on this board....... :TU:
You. Underestimate

I will back Joshua and Martin at the bookies

Spread betting and you may think I am wrong but my strike rate very high, think what you will
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