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Re: Liverpool RBR

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Stuarty30 wrote:Horse, No.... Let's be real here. Just, no...
No to you.

Callum knocks a few lowish level blokes out and now everyone is a waste of his time and can't teach him anything.

Sturm isn't great, but he's still a step up for Smith.

How can Sturm be considered a bad opponent for Smith? Madness.
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Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse, No.... Let's be real here. Just, no...
No to you.

Callum knocks a few lowish level blokes out and now everyone is a waste of his time and can't teach him anything.

Sturm isn't great, but he's still a step up for Smith.

How can Sturm be considered a bad opponent for Smith? Madness.
I agree
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Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse, No.... Let's be real here. Just, no...
No to you.

Callum knocks a few lowish level blokes out and now everyone is a waste of his time and can't teach him anything.

Sturm isn't great, but he's still a step up for Smith.

How can Sturm be considered a bad opponent for Smith? Madness.
First off, I didn't mean to disrespect Sturm in any way. Sturm just got a gift against Chudinov. Did he deserve that gift? No he didn't. Not at all. I like Sturm and have always rooted for him until he got humped from Oscar! That isn't my fault. Could Smith learn a thing or two? Yeah probably! I have been a bit too impulsive there. Could he learn a thing or two knocking out a bum? Probably not but it would depend how he took it!
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Stuarty30 wrote:
GlobalBox wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Would give smith a name but not much else. Oh sorry and a title. I am a bit dismayed with titles nowadays if I'm honest. A win against Sturm would add to Callum's rep but I doubt he would learn anything from it.
You are right in one sense but he would get a title and learn to win away from home, that could be a very good lesson.
Yeah you're right there mate. Would he learn anything else though? I think Smith is a good enough fighter to make these decisions for himself..
I think sometimes you can learn more from the build up/possible scenarios than you can the actual fight. Sturm in Germany and what all that entails, the late cars to the press conference, the hotel bedroom by the noisy road, the weigh in issues and such like. Walking away and flying home with a world title belt for me all adds to your education as a boxer.
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GlobalBox wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
GlobalBox wrote:
You are right in one sense but he would get a title and learn to win away from home, that could be a very good lesson.
Yeah you're right there mate. Would he learn anything else though? I think Smith is a good enough fighter to make these decisions for himself..
I think sometimes you can learn more from the build up/possible scenarios than you can the actual fight. Sturm in Germany and what all that entails, the late cars to the press conference, the hotel bedroom by the noisy road, the weigh in issues and such like. Walking away and flying home with a world title belt for me all adds to your education as a boxer.
Maybe you're correct mate?
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Stuarty30 wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Ed Robinson isn't perfect but I think he should be running boxing for Sky. He's been in the game, he has been with Sky a long time, he would know exactly what the fans want and I think he would make for a far better chief than Smith or even Francis... He has the intelligence to steer the ship and he is 'in touch' enough with the current situation to be able to make a change and make things better. I genuinely think he would make Sky a better platform for boxing than it is at the moment. Nothing against Adam Smith because I don't mind him but I am all about progression at these big companies. We pay the silly money so we should be allowed a say.
He does know his boxing and is popular within the game and that is a plus. But his presenting 'skills' are dreadful, I mean really, do you think he'd have a job presenting a more well known sport? Also he has no business experience, no way would he be able to run a project that big. Adam Smith is constrained by commercial decisions. Sky boxing is what it is because of commercial reasons (it's a Murdoch company!).... It's not as if anyone, especially that low down in the pecking order, would impact that. SKY boxing is about rinsing the customer for cash - including PPV, stuffing shows with adverts and supporting the lucrative football. They
Had a monopoly at one time. But that's well gone.

Sky are sh1tting themselves.... Murdoch hasn't got long, their technology is outdated and costly. They are still relying on very costly satellite installations and haven't kept up with the times. I predict Sky will go bust when Murdoch passes, and as a boxing fan, as well as someone who hates monopolies and a lack of fairness..... I can't wait
I like your opinion and I respect you as a poster. If Sky are bricking it then I must be in the wrong game. I love good fights and a fair outcome. Anyone else who feels the same should go for Ed Robinson. If he doesn't tick the masses then he should be allowed the chance...
Who knows. I'm not in the know. It's just a theory. I think that with the Internet and new media, and the options they offer, customers will gravitate towards more selective channels. Offerings will become more niche. I think gone are the days when people will just subscribe to generic channels with a variety of offerings. There will always be channels with more viewers than other but TV has been edging towards this model since non terrestrial TV launched. And booking adverts will be precise..... Based on exact data on viewers.

I'm not an expert as I'm not in the TV business.... But I feel like all TV will move form subscription / free model to PPV and people will just choose the shows they want. Prices will come down, but the model will be about selection. Because of our archaic TV licence model, there will be 'free to air' TV until that robbery ends. There will I imagine be 'free to view' periods for these channels (as happens with Boxnat1on now) but premium stuff will be PPV and there will be a number of different packages available.

My thoughts..... Nothing more
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Oh deary me, that's right, felix Sturm is the super middleweight WBA super-dooper champion. I forgot all about that.

If I was his team that's exactly what I would do with Smith. Easiest title win and would get kudos for fighting over there.

Since when was picking up a world title about learning anything anyway?

But failing that, Badou Jack is a beatable opponent, so WBC or WBA are sound options for him.
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Stuarty30 wrote:
Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse, No.... Let's be real here. Just, no...
No to you.

Callum knocks a few lowish level blokes out and now everyone is a waste of his time and can't teach him anything.

Sturm isn't great, but he's still a step up for Smith.

How can Sturm be considered a bad opponent for Smith? Madness.
First off, I didn't mean to disrespect Sturm in any way. Sturm just got a gift against Chudinov. Did he deserve that gift? No he didn't. Not at all. I like Sturm and have always rooted for him until he got humped from Oscar! That isn't my fault. Could Smith learn a thing or two? Yeah probably! I have been a bit too impulsive there. Could he learn a thing or two knocking out a bum? Probably not but it would depend how he took it!
To be fair, his fight with Chudinov was relatively close, he shouldn't have got the decision, but it's not like Sturm is suddenly a trial horse.
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Impressive by Smith

He did get caught a couple of times by Mouhamadi, but they didn't seem to bother him much which I think answers questions about Smith's chin since Mouhamadi is a pretty good puncher in his own right.

The super-middleweight division lacks a Kovalev/GGG/Wilder type destroyer so I don't think there's anyone in the division with the power to really trouble Smith except for possibly Degale who is a pretty solid accumulative puncher. If he gets tagged enough by Degale he might be stopped late on. Can't see any of the other fighters in the division doing enough to stop Smith.
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dhb-raging bull wrote:Broner fight from last night on spike if anyone didn't know
Late post but nice one mate. Allowed me to record it. (VHS)
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Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse, No.... Let's be real here. Just, no...
No to you.

Callum knocks a few lowish level blokes out and now everyone is a waste of his time and can't teach him anything.

Sturm isn't great, but he's still a step up for Smith.

How can Sturm be considered a bad opponent for Smith? Madness.
Seems a good enough fight to me. Wouldn't mind seeing Paul smith and sturm at this point
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Great performance from Smith but Mouhamadi isn't world class. Probably never was and certainly isn't now at 35. He looked as slow as a boat in the backstage warmup footage.
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Scott Cardle has let himself down in his interview with iFL after the fight. Gifted a draw and dismisses Dodd as a small hall fighter.
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samwbr wrote:Scott Cardle has let himself down in his interview with iFL after the fight. Gifted a draw and dismisses Dodd as a small hall fighter.
The more I hear of him the more unpleasant he comes across. Stuck at the level he's at now.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Horse wrote:No to you.

Callum knocks a few lowish level blokes out and now everyone is a waste of his time and can't teach him anything.

Sturm isn't great, but he's still a step up for Smith.

How can Sturm be considered a bad opponent for Smith? Madness.
First off, I didn't mean to disrespect Sturm in any way. Sturm just got a gift against Chudinov. Did he deserve that gift? No he didn't. Not at all. I like Sturm and have always rooted for him until he got humped from Oscar! That isn't my fault. Could Smith learn a thing or two? Yeah probably! I have been a bit too impulsive there. Could he learn a thing or two knocking out a bum? Probably not but it would depend how he took it!
To be fair, his fight with Chudinov was relatively close, he shouldn't have got the decision, but it's not like Sturm is suddenly a trial horse.
I just think Sturm is shot to pieces and should be retiring rather than going in with a top prospect. Smith could probably pick up a few new experiences facing him but it wouldn't be any great learning curve and I doubt he'd get much credit. Someone on Sky had mentioned Jleon Love for Fielding last night, that would be a good fight for Smith. Hopefully it's the winner of Jack/Bute next though.
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Bleak wrote:
samwbr wrote:Scott Cardle has let himself down in his interview with iFL after the fight. Gifted a draw and dismisses Dodd as a small hall fighter.
The more I hear of him the more unpleasant he comes across. Stuck at the level he's at now.
I can't stick him at all. I hope He fights Campbell next.
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Steve Wood says it how it is. Disgraceful decision and a bad night for British boxing.
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Beat Sky bill I've seen in many months, thoroughly enjoyed most of it.

Doran vs Keeler was a two round war, that took me by suprise a bit but was cracking while it lasted.
Id like to see Doran vs Ryder next.

Cardle vs Dodd was a good fight (not quite as good as the first, but good none the less).
I thought Dodd deserved the decision and Cardle knew it too.
He loses his belt to Campbell next time out.

Fielding vs Rebrasse was another good scrap, if a little bit messy.
At the final bell I felt Rebrasse may have done enough to win it, but it was close and a split either way seems agreeable to me.
Fielding should go for the British next.

Smith vs Mohamedi went pretty much the way i expected, Smith has proven himself too good for European level now and needs to fight a champion next, i wouldnt bet against him vs any of them.
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Bleak wrote:
samwbr wrote:Scott Cardle has let himself down in his interview with iFL after the fight. Gifted a draw and dismisses Dodd as a small hall fighter.
The more I hear of him the more unpleasant he comes across. Stuck at the level he's at now.
obnoxious little man both inside and outside the ring
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Re: Liverpool RBR

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could Fielding get the Groves vs. Brophy winner? Groves likes to keep busy and I'm sure Fielding would turn it down.
Ideally I want to see Fielding vs. Paul Smith but that fights a little way off...
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wesshaw1985 wrote:could Fielding get the Groves vs. Brophy winner? Groves likes to keep busy and I'm sure Fielding would turn it down.
Ideally I want to see Fielding vs. Paul Smith but that fights a little way off...
Fielding Smith seems like a natural fight to make. Smiths had three hard fights in a row and took a bit of a hiding against Ward so it'll be interesting to see what he has left in the tank.
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Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse, No.... Let's be real here. Just, no...
No to you.

Callum knocks a few lowish level blokes out and now everyone is a waste of his time and can't teach him anything.

Sturm isn't great, but he's still a step up for Smith.

How can Sturm be considered a bad opponent for Smith? Madness.
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Re: Liverpool RBR

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keirw wrote:Beat Sky bill I've seen in many months, thoroughly enjoyed most of it.
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Any of the established world level boxers would be good for Smith, he is a very destructive hitter and has physical advantages over most in the division. I'm not sure he's been hit back hard yet or forced into mistakes by someone who could make him pay. Smith might be good enough to get to a world title bout without having real questions asked of him but in my mind it's better to have that experience on the way up than not having it, he seems to have a big fight temperament though and looks to enjoy the attention.
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palooka wrote:Any of the established world level boxers would be good for Smith, he is a very destructive hitter and has physical advantages over most in the division. I'm not sure he's been hit back hard yet or forced into mistakes by someone who could make him pay. Smith might be good enough to get to a world title bout without having real questions asked of him but in my mind it's better to have that experience on the way up than not having it, he seems to have a big fight temperament though and looks to enjoy the attention.
Even Sturm? Maybe I'm wrong but I just have no interest in that fight for Smith. I think Sturm should wrap it. The latter part of the guys career has consisted of him recieving questionable decisions against mediocre opposition. He needs a young, hungry challenger like Smith like a hole in the head.
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