Manny Pacquiao vs Timothy Bradley 3 + Arthur Abraham vs Gilberto Ramirez

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los2 wrote:mayweather has said that kell is the man everyones avoiding.............werent u made to look a cock when u said kell wouldnt fight porter.................................
No.

Brook's had a terrible career.

He is a very boring fighter.
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Has to be Pacman on points.
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So no UK TV for this? Really wanted to see the Abraham v Ramirez fight.
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Kilburn wrote:So no UK TV for this? Really wanted to see the Abraham v Ramirez fight.
Its on Premier Sports.
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Sod it I binned that channel yonks ago, surely this is the first fight they've picked up in a while?
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Horse wrote:
los2 wrote:mayweather has said that kell is the man everyones avoiding.............werent u made to look a cock when u said kell wouldnt fight porter.................................
No.

Brook's had a terrible career.

He is a very boring fighter.
Brooks opposition has been rank but I wouldn't say he was a boring fighter at all. Good reflexes, stylish, quick, powerful, ramrod jab. Each to their own but I enjoy watching Brook. I just wish it was against better opponents.
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Stuarty30 wrote:Brooks opposition has been rank but I wouldn't say he was a boring fighter at all. Good reflexes, stylish, quick, powerful, ramrod jab. Each to their own but I enjoy watching Brook. I just wish it was against better opponents.
Competitive fights are what entertains me the most and Brook is a big failure when it comes to delivering those.

Brook is a joke.
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Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Brooks opposition has been rank but I wouldn't say he was a boring fighter at all. Good reflexes, stylish, quick, powerful, ramrod jab. Each to their own but I enjoy watching Brook. I just wish it was against better opponents.
Competitive fights are what entertains me the most and Brook is a big failure when it comes to delivering those.

Brook is a joke.
I'm a fan but I'm finding it harder to stick up for him because of the tripe he's been fighting! If he doesn't fight someone big in the summer I'm not classing myself as fan any longer until he does. Shame because he has bundles of talent. Maybe a bit mentally week.
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Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Brooks opposition has been rank but I wouldn't say he was a boring fighter at all. Good reflexes, stylish, quick, powerful, ramrod jab. Each to their own but I enjoy watching Brook. I just wish it was against better opponents.
Competitive fights are what entertains me the most and Brook is a big failure when it comes to delivering those.

Brook is a joke.
His lack of competitive fights and apparent lack of ambition are frustrating, but I don't think any pro boxer should be described as a 'joke', particularly not one of the top 3 P4P current British fighters.
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Brooks opposition has been rank but I wouldn't say he was a boring fighter at all. Good reflexes, stylish, quick, powerful, ramrod jab. Each to their own but I enjoy watching Brook. I just wish it was against better opponents.
Competitive fights are what entertains me the most and Brook is a big failure when it comes to delivering those.

Brook is a joke.
His lack of competitive fights and apparent lack of ambition are frustrating, but I don't think any pro boxer should be described as a 'joke', particularly not one of the top 3 P4P current British fighters.
Top 4 if your Horse
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Stuarty30 wrote:I'm a fan but I'm finding it harder to stick up for him because of the tripe he's been fighting! If he doesn't fight someone big in the summer I'm not classing myself as fan any longer until he does. Shame because he has bundles of talent. Maybe a bit mentally week.
After he beat Porter I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because that was a good world class win.

Unfortunately, he's done nothing with that win.

Brook = Mental midget? Quite possibly.
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Horse wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:I'm a fan but I'm finding it harder to stick up for him because of the tripe he's been fighting! If he doesn't fight someone big in the summer I'm not classing myself as fan any longer until he does. Shame because he has bundles of talent. Maybe a bit mentally week.
After he beat Porter I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because that was a good world class win.

Unfortunately, he's done nothing with that win.

Brook = Mental midget? Quite possibly.
Do you think he would/wouldve be/been better to vacate than fight the admittedly poor mandatories?

I give the Gavin fight a pass because it was only 8 weeks after Dan and was seen at the time as a keep busy fight after the inactivity with the stabbing,obviously in hindsight with the Chaves fight falling through then being fed Bizier by the IBF,the Dan/Gavin/Bizier combination is sub standard and a healthy comedown from the big win in America against Porter

I think its a mixture of injuries,bad luck,the frigging IBF's god awful mandates but "mental midget"?

I think your tripping on this one Horse
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handsofstone wrote:Do you think he would/wouldve be/been better to vacate than fight the admittedly poor mandatories?

I give the Gavin fight a pass because it was only 8 weeks after Dan and was seen at the time as a keep busy fight after the inactivity with the stabbing,obviously in hindsight with the Chaves fight falling through then being fed Bizier by the IBF,the Dan/Gavin/Bizier combination is sub standard and a healthy comedown from the big win in America against Porter

I think its a mixture of injuries,bad luck,the frigging IBF's god awful mandates but "mental midget"?

I think your tripping on this one Horse
No, I don't think dropping the IBF title would have helped much.

Has Hearn said anything to the IBF about their awful mandatories?

I reckon both Hearn and Brook are happy about having that excuse to fight woeful opposition.
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Horse wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Do you think he would/wouldve be/been better to vacate than fight the admittedly poor mandatories?

I give the Gavin fight a pass because it was only 8 weeks after Dan and was seen at the time as a keep busy fight after the inactivity with the stabbing,obviously in hindsight with the Chaves fight falling through then being fed Bizier by the IBF,the Dan/Gavin/Bizier combination is sub standard and a healthy comedown from the big win in America against Porter

I think its a mixture of injuries,bad luck,the frigging IBF's god awful mandates but "mental midget"?

I think your tripping on this one Horse
No, I don't think dropping the IBF title would have helped much.

Has Hearn said anything to the IBF about their awful mandatories?

I reckon both Hearn and Brook are happy about having that excuse to fight woeful opposition.
I mentioned injuries,bad luck and bad mandates,i forgot to add bad advice,refusing the Bradley fight years ago was wrong too
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handsofstone wrote:I mentioned injuries,bad luck and bad mandates,i forgot to add bad advice,refusing the Bradley fight years ago was wrong too
The past doesn't matter much as he's still pretty young.

He's just got to stop messing around and he can still have a great career.
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Another comfortable win for Pacquiao,i had it 117-110,just as straightforward as the 1st 2 fights except Bradley was down twice,i actually thought Bradley might win this one despite me having Pacquiao the clear winner the previous fights but he was pretty poor,took too long to get his punches off and allowed Manny to outwork him

Neither guy landed too much TBF apart form the KD's Pacquiao scored he never landed any real hurtful shots either,lets hope these 2 never meet again,both elite fighters but Manny has Timothy's number

The worst trilogy in boxing??
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Any chance that Bradley would be interested in a Brook fight?

I can imagine Arum trying to give us Bradley vs Vargas II, but he shouldn't be allowed to.
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decent story on what the pacman victory means

http://www.todayonline.com/sports/fitti ... xing-great

that was a real fight last night,not like the AJ bull
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