Who/what is the #1 problem?

[Deadendgeneration]

This will be his 5th consecutive fight at "Caneloweight". As for who's avoiding the GGG fight, if he really wanted the fight, it'd happen, it's easy to pin the blame on Oscar but Canelo said himself that it's 155 or not happening.

Man don't act like this isn't something you've heard before from Oscar, who controls who?? Do you honestly believe Canelo tells DLH what to do??

Who suggested the 90-10? If you think Canelo did and not Oscar then there's no more that needs to be said on this.

If Canelo really wants the fight then Oscar will have to make it or risk losing his only big name fighter when his contract's up. Al and Bob would be more than happy to take him on. I made no attempt to suggest that Canelo suggested the 90-10 split, I stated that Canelo said it will only happen at 155. To the eyes of most, it seems like neither Oscar nor Canelo want the GGG fight.

[Freedom2013]

They are all to blame. You need to take it as a case-by-case scenario.

The worst is probably Bob Arum. He's ruining the careers of many boxers by keeping them inactive and feeding them meaningless opponents, either softies or high-risk low-reward type opponents ( for example M Garcia, Loma, Mekhontsev, Zewski, etc). He is greedy and prefers not to work with some promoters.

Al Haymon is reluctant to do business with the bigger promoters, and sometimes refuses to put his top boxers in with each other. For example, Stevenson, Alvarez, Bute and Beterbiev will all face different opponents in upcoming fights, but they should be fighting each other.

Don King has ruined the careers of many boxers by forcing them to remain inactive for long periods of time, but thankfully he has less influence now.

A few boxers such as Adonis Chickenson and Deontay "I won't fight in Russia, I need home advantage" Wilder are cowardly, but MOST boxers are willing to fight anyone and the managers/promoters hold them back.

[ImranSarwar]

It's government. Read my stream about my work of the United WBC WBA IBF WBO (dash) "the second echelon factor" [UWBCAFO-I]
Besides that FIGHT RESULTS move the SPORT forward.
We need intriguing matchups!

[Undefeated49-0]

If Canelo really wants the fight then Oscar will have to make it or risk losing his only big name fighter when his contract's up. Al and Bob would be more than happy to take him on. I made no attempt to suggest that Canelo suggested the 90-10 split, I stated that Canelo said it will only happen at 155. To the eyes of most, it seems like neither Oscar nor Canelo want the GGG fight.

That's one heck of an ASSumption you made in thinking Canelo would leave Oscar, that's like saying Manny would leave Arum when he had enough money to do it but didn't.

Nice try on your part but you haven't proven anything.

[actjac]

A tie between Isis, the national debt and the alphabet boxing organizations.

[scallum2015]

Haymon has boxing on Tv at least 4 times per month. He is great for boxing. And he pays his fighters more $$$ than anyone else and he doesn't take 1 penny until the purses reach 100k

[Nightmare Roy]

Fvck Alvarez.

[caldo2025]

Ah, we could complain about every sport and predict ways in which we could improve them. IMO, Boxing is in great shape right now primed for a big comeback. Divisions are overflowing with talent and stars are ready to be born so I prefer to avoid the "sky is falling" take on the sport. The future looks super to me.

[Rob3_142]

The problem with boxing there is no independent central governance. Boxers and promoters are free to do as they please. There is no obligation to take any fight. Even in mandatory positions, the fighters in some circumstances would rather vacate than be forced to fight.

There never will be any central governance as there's too much money and too much influence in the game, and people will be convinced that the sport is 'good enough' as it is. We all know for a fact, that as good as it is, it could be a whole lot better. Yes we do get the odd super fight every so often, but there should be more than 1-2 a year considering all the divisions.

A couple of prime examples stick to mind, and make me think 'WTF'. Firstly, waiting for Mayweather and Pacman to be in the twilight of their career to make that fight, and how disappointed we all were when it came around. What a waste. We could be talking about that one throughout history, but instead it'll be consigned to one of the biggest disappointments of all time.

Kahn/Brook is another example. I cannot believe that Kahn will move out of his weight division, or rematch someone else without a title than fight someone he genuinely dislikes, someone who is world champion, and someone who is also British. Why? Because he won't be offered an 80% split?

I understand this is a money game, and that a fighters career is potentially short, but when the sporting integrity is relegated to distant second on the priority list, it saddens me a lot. Everyone will consider Mayweather one of the all-time greats, but I'll always remember him as having 'money' as his middle name and ducking Pacquiao in his prime.

[Chepppaaa]

The problem with boxing there is no independent central governance. Boxers and promoters are free to do as they please. There is no obligation to take any fight. Even in mandatory positions, the fighters in some circumstances would rather vacate than be forced to fight.

There never will be any central governance as there's too much money and too much influence in the game, and people will be convinced that the sport is 'good enough' as it is. We all know for a fact, that as good as it is, it could be a whole lot better. Yes we do get the odd super fight every so often, but there should be more than 1-2 a year considering all the divisions.

A couple of prime examples stick to mind, and make me think 'WTF'. Firstly, waiting for Mayweather and Pacman to be in the twilight of their career to make that fight, and how disappointed we all were when it came around. What a waste. We could be talking about that one throughout history, but instead it'll be consigned to one of the biggest disappointments of all time.

Kahn/Brook is another example. I cannot believe that Kahn will move out of his weight division, or rematch someone else without a title than fight someone he genuinely dislikes, someone who is world champion, and someone who is also British. Why? Because he won't be offered an 80% split?

I understand this is a money game, and that a fighters career is potentially short, but when the sporting integrity is relegated to distant second on the priority list, it saddens me a lot. Everyone will consider Mayweather one of the all-time greats, but I'll always remember him as having 'money' as his middle name and ducking Pacquiao in his prime.

[afcmarshall]

Too many chances to be the 'world champion'. Fighters are to worried to lose there 0 they'd all rather go out 30-0 with a belt claiming to be the best then actually go out a prove they are the best.

[ImranSarwar]

It's government. UWBCAFO-I my work to "echelon" the Whole Of The Sport! '1e' = The First &major four. '2e' potential of any group outside of the "First &m-4". '2e' has pronounce FIVE USA STATES VALUE (approx).

[Rob3_142]

It's government. UWBCAFO-I my work to "echelon" the Whole Of The Sport! '1e' = The First &major four. '2e' potential of any group outside of the "First &m-4". '2e' has pronounce FIVE USA STATES VALUE (approx).

That's the only bit I understood from that post...

[ImranSarwar]

hey Rob 3_142...you can possibly pick me up at: AA) Regulating Boxing Successfully. BB) Introduction: the UWBCAFO-I. Thank you.
I can RELOOK at what I put there to see if it can be more clear.

[ImranSarwar]

Way too many belts. 4 major orgs is ridiculous enough, but for them to also have super, regular, interim, silver, diamond etc etc. It's a joke.

Four it is! Let's put the STOPS IN RIGHT NOW!

[ImranSarwar]

I've made a way for the "second echelon" of the boxing world. United WBC WBA IBF WBO (dash) "the second echelon factor". Est March/2007. We count the potential '2e' championships as having an approximate FIVE USA STATES VALUE. "Echelons don't mix". MATCHES ARE ADVERTISED.
We have "introduction rules" so as to keep the integrity of this work.
The UWBCAFO-I reinforces the FIRST &MAJOR FOUR. Our goverance focus is the '2e'. THEY MUST REGISTER WITH US. '2e' isn't "going away" it's only gonna get WORSE. This is a remedy. We look at it as being "good" for the Sport but...it CAN NOT CONTINUE TO BE UNREGULATED.
As soon as I get some "money" I WILL buy a '2e' and RUN-IT-ACCORDINGLY.
We have DQ the 'C' -wt weight division since our inception. This is a "temp move". WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS TO RE-SET THE WEIGHT at 195/190 champions choice/VACS 190. We act as an ADVOCATE for the '1e'. IF THEY RUN SHOWS WITH THEIR (newly established) "bum" 200lb range limits then.....I can not help THAT. We are not doing direct goverance on the '1e'. With the '2e' this is "strict rule".
We work with MEN'S LEAGUE BOXING ONLY NO CALL ON THE "Women's side" of the SPORT. KEEP IN MIND!
We work with WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ONLY. You like to "mix" the "Intercontinental" a.s.o., be our guest! WE WISH YOU WILL!
Please warn and strip RIGHT AWAY "champs" who mix echelons. Gennady Golovikin is a "mixer" who should be dealt with.
When I was in the ARMY 1975-79 USAREUR.....which is GERMANY and beyond.....the SERVICE PREACHED THAT THE "Institution" is more important and "greater" than the individual. That philosophy is so badly needed today. We have "lost track of priorities" when, Wladimir K. was "allowed" to hold only a IBO championship thru 15 title defenses. THAT WAS "WRONG". I hope it will soon be "corrected".
The UWBCAFO-I operates "mechanically". That is...we have no "rules" /nor "controls" over any STYLES/ FASHIONS/ a.s.o.,a.s.o. outside of direct boxing "goverance".
Boxers please PULL AWAY FROM THE "unregulated/Regulated" [IBO IBC WBU WBF NBA WBB WAA -and- all other "world governing bodies/Men's league of the Sport]
I look forward to the day we will REGISTER '2e' Entities.
IBO being the "biggest nusence" in all of boxing modern hour....what will REALLY SAVE US QUICKLY will be if a multi millionaire would purchase them and then SHRINK THEIR CALLS down to the '2e' we are promoting here.
Boxing going to OPEN BETTER WORLD WIDE once we get this matter "under control".
[email protected] cell 860-515-7680 texts welcome If I hear, I'll communicate back at you.

[BitPlayer]

The ranking systems overpenalizing losses and allowing people to get too high up fighting too weak opposition.

[ImranSarwar]

Right now today oversight....the IBO is boxing worst identity problem. 50 years as an observer tells me as much. ^ ^ I have already gone into it the details I've designed to help regulate the Sport in better way.

[Lancenix]

1. no big names has the balls facing rigo
2. no big names wants ggg
3. the adonis/kovalev situation
4. the whole haymon problem
5. will josh, wilder and ortiz be a drama of avoiding each other like kovalev, adonis & bertebiev?

i mean boxing would be a hundred times better when as soon as possible

wilder-ortiz
kovalev-adonis
ggg-canelo
rigo-santa cruz

would happen. which names/companys are making the most problems, that obvious elite fights that fans would love to see simply wont get made!?

in no other sport that sh(&§t exists, imagine in the nba golden state not willing to face san antonio or lebron saying "no, the cavs wont face chicago but in boxing this crap exists, always, today more than back than!

Hey I have been saying this for a long time but you are obviously not listening to me. The problem is North Americans. Boxers and promoters alike in North America have ruined the sport of boxing and no one continues to fight each other. It is mainly Americans since you asked. I chose other.

[Badhusker]

Who/What is the #1 problem? That's easy. Money. Not so much for all of the boxers, but most everyone else it is.

[Badhusker]

1. no big names has the balls facing rigo
2. no big names wants ggg
3. the adonis/kovalev situation
4. the whole haymon problem
5. will josh, wilder and ortiz be a drama of avoiding each other like kovalev, adonis & bertebiev?

i mean boxing would be a hundred times better when as soon as possible

wilder-ortiz
kovalev-adonis
ggg-canelo
rigo-santa cruz

would happen. which names/companys are making the most problems, that obvious elite fights that fans would love to see simply wont get made!?

in no other sport that sh(&§t exists, imagine in the nba golden state not willing to face san antonio or lebron saying "no, the cavs wont face chicago but in boxing this crap exists, always, today more than back than!

Hey I have been saying this for a long time but you are obviously not listening to me. The problem is North Americans. Boxers and promoters alike in North America have ruined the sport of boxing and no one continues to fight each other. It is mainly Americans since you asked. I chose other.

Lancenix, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post

[actjac]

Way too many belts. 4 major orgs is ridiculous enough, but for them to also have super, regular, interim, silver, diamond etc etc. It's a joke.

This is #1. . . #2 is what Arum did to steer boxing toward the lower weights when he was frozen out of the lucrative heavyweights thus more lower weight classes were created and titles (involving boxers who couldn't speak English).

[actjac]

This Boxing model was created and designed for a simpler time, a cottage industry of sorts. It was meant to be kept small and loosely managed to allow the mob or corrupt figureheads the mobility and autonomy to do whatever they want and make the most money. To this day, it's the same exact model but on a much wider scale.

Boxing is the only "major" sport without a commissioner or a players association or union looking out for the players interests and safety. Do you think that's not by design? Without any governing body overseeing the sport entirely, the same old corruption goes on undetected and the wild wild west of boxing continues to line some pockets.

This is why i hope that Haymon succeeds and cleans this sport up from the ground level. If the PBC takes over for these other organizations of criminals, i'll be 100% satisfied.

To start with Haymon needed to focus on one or two competitive divisions and not just throw millions of dollars at all kinds of hap hazard matchups on all of the networks.

[Lancenix]

1. no big names has the balls facing rigo
2. no big names wants ggg
3. the adonis/kovalev situation
4. the whole haymon problem
5. will josh, wilder and ortiz be a drama of avoiding each other like kovalev, adonis & bertebiev?

i mean boxing would be a hundred times better when as soon as possible

wilder-ortiz
kovalev-adonis
ggg-canelo
rigo-santa cruz

would happen. which names/companys are making the most problems, that obvious elite fights that fans would love to see simply wont get made!?

in no other sport that sh(&§t exists, imagine in the nba golden state not willing to face san antonio or lebron saying "no, the cavs wont face chicago but in boxing this crap exists, always, today more than back than!

Hey I have been saying this for a long time but you are obviously not listening to me. The problem is North Americans. Boxers and promoters alike in North America have ruined the sport of boxing and no one continues to fight each other. It is mainly Americans since you asked. I chose other.

Lancenix, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post

What happened to the bet you proposed to me coward?

[ImranSarwar]

I read something on the BoxRec sim today with their "fantasy fights" [What EVER it is!]. They had MUHAMMAD ALI winning SD -vs- JAMES J JEFFERIES. [I always knew Jeff was a "True Great"! Finally..more proof! : )]