British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge

[Stuarty]

Has Ireland been represented in this challenge yet? I'd suggested Dunne v Córdoba. What about Collins v McCallum or Kalambay if there's footage available?

[Horse]

Has Ireland been represented in this challenge yet? I'd suggested Dunne v Córdoba. What about Collins v McCallum or Kalambay if there's footage available?

No Irish fighter has been shown yet.

McGuigan and Collins will probably get shown in the next few months.

[Horse]

Nominations:

Stuarty30 - Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Córdoba
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins v Mike McCallum
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay
PredatorHayds - Dave Charnley vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Richie Woodhall vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mark Potter
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mike Tyson
handsofstone - Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna
Rexob - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga
mickey1975 - Billy Hardy vs Orlando Canizales I

Any more suggestions for week 15?

[Stuarty]

What about Julio Pablo Chacon v Scott Harrison or Injin Chi v Michael Brodie 1?

Or Harrison v Brodie? Bit short though.

[handsofstone]

What about Julio Pablo Chacon v Scott Harrison or Injin Chi v Michael Brodie 1?

Or Harrison v Brodie? Bit short though.

Or what about Harrison vs either Alcohol Abuse or Cheese & Onion Frisps

[Stuarty]

What about Julio Pablo Chacon v Scott Harrison or Injin Chi v Michael Brodie 1?

Or Harrison v Brodie? Bit short though.

Or what about Harrison vs either Alcohol Abuse or Cheese & Onion Frisps

What a waste. I actually lost sympathy for the guy because he had so many chances. I used to enjoy the old Braehead Arena nights with Harrsion, Arthur etc....

[davie]

Nominations:

Stuarty30 - Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Córdoba
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins v Mike McCallum
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay
PredatorHayds - Dave Charnley vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Richie Woodhall vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mark Potter
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mike Tyson
handsofstone - Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna
Rexob - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga
mickey1975 - Billy Hardy vs Orlando Canizales I

Any more suggestions for week 15?

Don't think we need any more suggestions.

From that list I like the looks of Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay or Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna.
Wouldn't mind seeing Charnley, but I tried to find footage of his best win, Ring magazine 1961 FOTY against Joe 'Old bones' Brown and couldn't find any footage. This was all I could find https://youtu.be/6lYYvhUOkTI which is against an over the hill Joe Brown

[Horse]

Don't think we need any more suggestions.

From that list I like the looks of Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay or Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna.

I can't find Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna I.

Wouldn't mind seeing Charnley, but I tried to find footage of his best win, Ring magazine 1961 FOTY against Joe 'Old bones' Brown and couldn't find any footage. This was all I could find https://youtu.be/6lYYvhUOkTI which is against an over the hill Joe Brown

The footage of the 2nd fight must exist though, right?

The only Charnley fights that I can find are Charnley vs Brown III and Charnley vs Hughes.

Are they the only ones?

[Rexob]

What about Jim McDonnell vs Azumah Nelson.

[davie]

Don't think we need any more suggestions.

From that list I like the looks of Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay or Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna.

I can't find Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna I.

Wouldn't mind seeing Charnley, but I tried to find footage of his best win, Ring magazine 1961 FOTY against Joe 'Old bones' Brown and couldn't find any footage. This was all I could find https://youtu.be/6lYYvhUOkTI which is against an over the hill Joe Brown

The footage of the 2nd fight must exist though, right?

The only Charnley fights that I can find are Charnley vs Brown III and Charnley vs Hughes.

Are they the only ones?

Aye, you would think after fighting a fight of the year winner, they would have gone to the effort of recording the re-match
But no, all I can find is the third one

If you can't find Buchanan vs Laguna there is always the highly controversial Duran match up. I highly recommend that to anyone and would be happy to rewatch it myself

[davie]

NB Davie says "we don't need any further suggestions" then continues to make suggestions

[Horse]

Nominations:

Stuarty30 - Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Córdoba
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins v Mike McCallum
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay
Stuarty30 - Scott Harrison vs Julio Pablo Chacon
Stuarty30 - Scott Harrison vs Michael Brodie
Stuarty30 - Michael Brodie vs Injin Chi I
PredatorHayds - Dave Charnley vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Richie Woodhall vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mark Potter
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mike Tyson

handsofstone - Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna
Rexob - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga
Rexob - Jim McDonnell vs Azumah Nelson
mickey1975 - Billy Hardy vs Orlando Canizales I
davie - Ken Buchanan vs Roberto Duran


So what should be week 15's fight?

I'd go with a Buchanan or Collins fight.

[Monte Fisto]

Buchanan laguna gets my vote

[Horse]

Buchanan laguna gets my vote

The 2nd fight?

Because I can't find the 1st.

[Counter-puncher]

Buchanan laguna gets my vote

The 2nd fight?

Because I can't find the 1st.

No available footage of the first that I know of, but the second fight is very good and a significant fight too.

[Monte Fisto]

Buchanan laguna gets my vote

The 2nd fight?

Because I can't find the 1st.

yes 2nd is perfect

[Horse]

Okay, Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna II is fine by me.

Any objections?

[Horse]

Any more suggestions for week 16?

Recent weeks' nominations:

Stuarty30 - Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Córdoba
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins v Mike McCallum
Stuarty30 - Steve Collins vs Sumbu Kalambay
Stuarty30 - Scott Harrison vs Julio Pablo Chacon
Stuarty30 - Scott Harrison vs Michael Brodie
Stuarty30 - Michael Brodie vs Injin Chi I
PredatorHayds - Dave Charnley vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Richie Woodhall vs TBA
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mark Potter
PredatorHayds - Danny Williams vs Mike Tyson

Rexob - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga
Rexob - Jim McDonnell vs Azumah Nelson
mickey1975 - Billy Hardy vs Orlando Canizales I

[Horse]

Okay, I'd go for a Collins fight.

I found Collins vs Kalambay, but there is some text that keeps flashing up in the middle of the screen on that video.

[davie]

Okay, I'd go for a Collins fight.

I found Collins vs Kalambay, but there is some text that keeps flashing up in the middle of the screen on that video.

I'd be happy with this one.

Steve was a good fighter but we've all seen the Eubank and Benn fights.
I've seen the McCallum fight and Mike is a better known name.

Kalambay often gets over looked from this talent packed middle weight era. He was top class and handed defeats to Collins, Iran Barklay, twice to Herol Graham, went 1-1 with McCallum and the less said about the Michael Nunn fight the better.

But Kalambay was certainly an under-rated and at times over-looked guy and the Collins fight should be worth a watch.

*Edit - just a bit of boxing trivia, but I just scanned through the Ring magazine rankings for the duration of Kalambays time as a top 10 middleweight and he shared a division with the following - Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, Herol Graham, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collins, Michael Watson, Gerald McLellan, James Toney, Roy Jones Jr,Bernard Hopkins, Julian Jackson, Reggie Johnson, John David Jackson, Jorge Fernando Castro


That's quite fornicating remarkable and put's into perspective that the current list goes Gennady Golovkin.........

[davie]

Stuarty30 - Michael Brodie vs Injin Chi I
I

Actually, leave Collins vs Kalambay
I remember the one, it was a cracker
Just make sure you catch the aftermath in the dressing room with Barry hearn.

[Horse]

Actually, leave Collins vs Kalambay
I remember the one, it was a cracker
Just make sure you catch the aftermath in the dressing room with Barry hearn.

What about Steve Collins vs Reggie Johnson?

[davie]

Actually, leave Collins vs Kalambay
I remember the one, it was a cracker
Just make sure you catch the aftermath in the dressing room with Barry hearn.

What about Steve Collins vs Reggie Johnson?

Either that or the Kalambay fight would probably be good. Both close fights, Johnson and Kalambay both good fighters and I've not seen either.

I looked for the In Jin Chi vs Brodie fight and I'm struggling to find the full fight, which is surprising

[Horse]

Either that or the Kalambay fight would probably be good. Both close fights, Johnson and Kalambay both good fighters and I've not seen either.

I went with the Johnson fight, because the Kalambay footage wasn't great.

I looked for the In Jin Chi vs Brodie fight and I'm struggling to find the full fight, which is surprising

That is surprising.

[Horse]

Any suggestions for week 17?

I've got a few:

Barry McGuigan vs Eusebio Pedroza
John Conteh vs Jorge Victor Ahumada
Charlie Magri vs Eleoncio Mercedes
Henry Cooper vs Muhammad Ali I
Maurice Hope vs Rocky Mattioli I